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Bretton Garcia

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14. "By their fruits you shall know them"

Reply to guillaumeb (Reply #8)

Tue Jun 11, 2019, 04:22 AM

Jun 2019

"He who believes in me will also do the works that I do; and greater things than these... Whatever you ask in my name, will do it...." (John 14.12-13 RSV.)

"'I will call on the name of the LORD; and the God who answers by fire, he is God.' ... Then the fire of the LORD fell, and consumed the burnt offering, and the wood, and the stones...." (1 Kings 19.24, 38).

Just metaphors for spiritual things? Note the vivid physicality of thousands of Biblical descriptions. And the scientific experiment in Dan. 1.4-15. KJE. As well as many warnings about false things even in spiritual things; "false spirits," etc..

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Why I used to believe in the prosperity gospel like Kenneth Copeland believes [View all] guillaumeb Jun 2019 OP

Why are the faith 'healers' in stadiums and television instead of going from hospital to hospital cu keithbvadu2 Jun 2019 #1

True. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #3

thoroughly nauseating, disgusting human beings, the lot of them. NRaleighLiberal Jun 2019 #2

Some of those who fall for it are not intelligent enough to see the lies. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #4

yes it's a good point, I know...it is frustrating knowing so many think NRaleighLiberal Jun 2019 #5

An excellent point. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #6

But poor people do need more material things. Bretton Garcia Jun 2019 #7

Well said. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #8

You may be answering your own objection partly Bretton Garcia Jun 2019 #9

"prosperity is presented as a sign of divine favor" trotsky Jun 2019 #11

These verses do not explicitly refer to material wealth. eom guillaumeb Jun 2019 #15

That's your personal interpretation. They, of course, disagree. trotsky Jun 2019 #18

"By their fruits you shall know them" Bretton Garcia Jun 2019 #14

One assumes that you had a point. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #17

Why so rude? trotsky Jun 2019 #19

The points: 1) the Bible promised many material things. Bretton Garcia Jun 2019 #21

They just have a different interpretation of the bible than you do. trotsky Jun 2019 #10

Objections that could just as easily be directed at any denomination. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2019 #12

Well you see, it's OK to tell these believers they are wrong. trotsky Jun 2019 #13

Greed, and a desire for power in action. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #16

That's right, it's ONLY your opinion. n/t trotsky Jun 2019 #20