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Gun Control & RKBA

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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 06:24 AM Mar 2016

When Can the Government Take Away Your Guns? [View all]

Ralph Gilbertson, a 74-year-old living in Richfield, Minnesota, thinks the CIA is watching him. He thinks agents are impersonating his neighbors and the local cops, and he has sent letters out to the managers of his apartment building saying so. He also thinks that the cops' recent seizure of his guns is unconstitutional, and he's likely right.

His weapons—he has three handguns, which he's licensed to carry—were taken away by the police after his building managers called a city agency worried about the apparent combination of firearms and paranoia that he represented, reported the Star-Tribune on Sunday.

But Gilbertson is challenging the seizure of his weapons in a case that shows just how complicated it is to take away someone's guns in America.

While his disposition may make his neighbors nervous, Gilbertson isn't a convicted felon, hasn't been charged with domestic violence, and no court or psychiatrist has ruled he's a ticking time bomb. (He suffers from a mild form of bipolar disorder, but according to the Star-Tribune, "his psychiatrist sent a letter to the judge saying that Gilbertsen is compliant with his medications and poses no danger to himself or others.&quot

https://www.vice.com/read/when-can-the-government-take-away-your-guns
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Guns are people, too, my friend. And guns have civil rights, just like you, me, and... stone space Mar 2016 #1
We have to be careful when removing rights to make people feel good. ileus Mar 2016 #2
Removing guns is not the same thing as removing rights. stone space Mar 2016 #3
Read the constitution much? Puha Ekapi Mar 2016 #4
Not the Scalia approved annotated version. stone space Mar 2016 #5
The old no one owned guns until Scalia allowed them to argument. ileus Mar 2016 #6
So tell me.. Puha Ekapi Mar 2016 #7
Your qualifiers, not mine. stone space Mar 2016 #13
Aaaaannnnnd, Stoney leaps into his trusty... Puha Ekapi Mar 2016 #18
Where did those qualifiers come from? stone space Mar 2016 #20
What is your position on private gun ownership? Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 #23
I'm sorry that the subtleties... Puha Ekapi Mar 2016 #24
This is what I support: stone space Mar 2016 #25
I think that wins the Evasion of the Year award. Straw Man Mar 2016 #26
Perhaps this will make it easier discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2016 #27
Notice how he runs away Duckhunter935 Mar 2016 #28
Perhaps not fear but a lack of articulation discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2016 #29
Now he will think you attack his profession and alert on you Duckhunter935 Mar 2016 #30
How about the Democratic Party approved annotated version? hack89 Mar 2016 #9
I'm sure our friend.. Puha Ekapi Mar 2016 #10
I've traveled to Washington to inform the Supremes of my disagreement with them before. stone space Mar 2016 #14
The Iowa Socialist Party? Do they still even exist? stone space Mar 2016 #12
Sorry. Thought you were a Democrat. nt hack89 Mar 2016 #15
I crash the Party and caucus with the Democrats every 4 years. stone space Mar 2016 #19
I have no problem with it hack89 Mar 2016 #21
SPUSA in Austin sometimes met for target practice in the Hill Country. Eleanors38 Mar 2016 #31
So, I take it you oppose Scalia's opinions on Texas v. Johnson, Maryland v. King... Marengo Mar 2016 #17
Actually, it is the same thing. Waldorf Mar 2016 #11
Unless it's firearms...then it's OK and considered "progressive" ileus Mar 2016 #16
Do you recall that the opening battle in the American war for independence was fought because Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 #22
The government can take your guns away TeddyR Mar 2016 #8
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