Gun Control & RKBA

beevul

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12. It would be helpful if you first knew what you were talking about.

Thu Feb 11, 2016, 01:35 PM

Feb 2016

First we both have to agree that gun nuts fetishize guns, violence and second amendment rights....

We don't have to agree on any such thing. I see you anti-gun folks doing far far more fetishizing that the gun folks. Pro-gun folks see the second amendment the same was as most folks see the first. But you knew that.

fbi is now sitting on million of unchecked background checks

No they aren't.

but because of loopholes just submitting info to the fbi means the gun shop owner or dealer (that's the law abiding one) gets to sell guns as a "straw purchaser" as many a he wants...(as evidenced by the millions of unprocessed background checks)....and the dealer gets to say that he sold only guns with background checks.....because of a technicality in actuality all across america all types of weapons by the millions are sold with virtually no backround check

Good god. Did you wipe these falsehoods clean after pulling them out?

this is how the ame tragedy happened

Is there a translation machine I can run this through so that it makes sense?

even tho laws are being passed in every state about background checks

No, they really aren't. Bloomberg is trying, I grant you that, but it seems his resources are divided between that, and attacking a Democratically elected Democratic Governor, for having the nerve to actually compromise.

....tax payers pay billions of dollars to the government every year to clean up the bloody messes of 10's of thousands of murders....33 thousand last year I think...

There were 11208 gun murders in 2014. Newsflash. That's not "tens of thousands".

and yet bernie has voted 5 times to block the ability of victims families to sue

Victims families can still sue. Just not for the unlawful actions of a third party. But you knew that.

Like I said, it would be helpful if you first knew what you were talking about.

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America is no longer gun-shy about gun control [View all] SecularMotion Feb 2016 OP

I agree with this section: Kang Colby Feb 2016 #1

Ownership of military-style rifles and machine guns should be restricted SecularMotion Feb 2016 #3

What past restrictions are you talking about? nt hack89 Feb 2016 #4

Machine guns already are highly restricted. GGJohn Feb 2016 #5

Please define "military-style" n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #6

I guess they are coming for my '03 Springfield too, an actual military weapon DonP Feb 2016 #10

Ooooooh! rjsquirrel Feb 2016 #52

Yes, and it's called an '03 because 1903 when it was developed DonP Feb 2016 #54

You seem to think rjsquirrel Feb 2016 #55

... GGJohn Feb 2016 #56

Did you read our SOP? beevul Feb 2016 #57

Bullshit. They are rarely used because they are *rifles*. benEzra Feb 2016 #39

"It is not necessary to "ban" any weapons" Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #48

I've seen 'making up reality' before, but that really takes the cake. beevul Feb 2016 #50

re: "How about "No"." discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #53

Agreed. The control outlook is in the hands of culture war extremists... Eleanors38 Feb 2016 #15

NRA has had carte blanche mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #2

re: "sane laws that actually work" discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #7

well remember please that you asked.... mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #9

It would be helpful if you first knew what you were talking about. beevul Feb 2016 #12

fbi sitting on 3millions mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #13

The number of gun related deaths is 33k. The majority of which are suicides not murders Press Virginia Feb 2016 #19

Hilarity.... beevul Feb 2016 #23

"Swept under the rug"? Ummm, no. The FBI publishes them annually. benEzra Feb 2016 #40

Actually, there were only 11,961 reported murders *using any weapon*. benEzra Feb 2016 #41

thanks and here's my take discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #20

my eyes, what word salad Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #21

"First we both have to agree that gun nuts fetishize guns, violence and second amendment rights" Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #22

re: "well remember please that you asked...." discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #36

Can you provide a link to the "million of unchecked background checks" claim? Marengo Feb 2016 #37

Perhaps you missed my reply discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #42

I think you may be tapping the fingers down to a nub... Marengo Feb 2016 #43

didn't know if I should reply mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #45

Well, thanks for answering discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #46

When you're able... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #49

moving on discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #44

Fetishize is exactly right rjsquirrel Feb 2016 #51

Your interlocutor is having a time-out. Something about gun control seems to induce logorrhea... friendly_iconoclast Feb 2016 #58

Who will be coming for your guns, gun owner? Marengo Feb 2016 #59

Hopefully the people can get their message thru the anti-BS. ileus Feb 2016 #8

The "people" send their message loud and clear with each NICS check DonP Feb 2016 #11

Also ammo plants DashOneBravo Feb 2016 #38

"Sea change?" Change of metaphors since "tipping point" seems rusted over. Eleanors38 Feb 2016 #14

Sandy Hook was a tipping point that CAUSED the sea change. nt flamin lib Feb 2016 #16

Don't see it. Gun rights advocates are more mobilized than ever... Eleanors38 Feb 2016 #17

What that 'sea change' in blue Massachusetts looks like: friendly_iconoclast Feb 2016 #18

They couldn't get an AWB passed in neighboring Rhode Island post Sandy Hook hack89 Feb 2016 #24

Did I hear someone say "tipping point"? pablo_marmol Feb 2016 #25

It has changed. deathrind Feb 2016 #26

This is why we'll never get anywhere. beevul Feb 2016 #27

It's a sad sight to witness otherwise intelligent people in the throes of false consensus effect friendly_iconoclast Feb 2016 #29

You make a lot of... deathrind Feb 2016 #30

Nope. Going by the evidence provided is not an assumption. beevul Feb 2016 #35

Someone forgot to inform the citizens of Illinois, Minnesota, and Massachusetts... friendly_iconoclast Feb 2016 #28

It will come about in the same... deathrind Feb 2016 #31

Your analogy is inapt. branford Feb 2016 #32

Your, deathrind Feb 2016 #33

And your lack of a cogent/honest response is noted as well. pablo_marmol Feb 2016 #47

You conflate criminal misuse and lawful use friendly_iconoclast Feb 2016 #34