Gun Control & RKBA

Kang Colby

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1. I agree with this section:

Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:08 AM

Feb 2016

Besides the NRA, gun control advocates are often their own worst enemies. There are important and effective gun reforms worth adopting: universal background checks, better reporting of criminal and mental health data into the federal background check database, stronger enforcement of gun laws, cracking down on rogue gun dealers. Yet advocates also push for predictably ineffective laws like bans on military-style rifles, which, contrary to common belief, are not machine guns and are rarely used in crime. Gun control proponents laugh off the NRA’s claim that the government wants to confiscate guns and then propose to outlaw the most popular rifle in America.

http://newsroom.ucla.edu/stories/ucla-faculty-voice-america-is-no-longer-gun-shy-about-gun-control

We've been saying this for years.

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America is no longer gun-shy about gun control [View all] SecularMotion Feb 2016 OP

I agree with this section: Kang Colby Feb 2016 #1

Ownership of military-style rifles and machine guns should be restricted SecularMotion Feb 2016 #3

What past restrictions are you talking about? nt hack89 Feb 2016 #4

Machine guns already are highly restricted. GGJohn Feb 2016 #5

Please define "military-style" n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #6

I guess they are coming for my '03 Springfield too, an actual military weapon DonP Feb 2016 #10

Ooooooh! rjsquirrel Feb 2016 #52

Yes, and it's called an '03 because 1903 when it was developed DonP Feb 2016 #54

You seem to think rjsquirrel Feb 2016 #55

... GGJohn Feb 2016 #56

Did you read our SOP? beevul Feb 2016 #57

Bullshit. They are rarely used because they are *rifles*. benEzra Feb 2016 #39

"It is not necessary to "ban" any weapons" Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #48

I've seen 'making up reality' before, but that really takes the cake. beevul Feb 2016 #50

re: "How about "No"." discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #53

Agreed. The control outlook is in the hands of culture war extremists... Eleanors38 Feb 2016 #15

NRA has had carte blanche mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #2

re: "sane laws that actually work" discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #7

well remember please that you asked.... mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #9

It would be helpful if you first knew what you were talking about. beevul Feb 2016 #12

fbi sitting on 3millions mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #13

The number of gun related deaths is 33k. The majority of which are suicides not murders Press Virginia Feb 2016 #19

Hilarity.... beevul Feb 2016 #23

"Swept under the rug"? Ummm, no. The FBI publishes them annually. benEzra Feb 2016 #40

Actually, there were only 11,961 reported murders *using any weapon*. benEzra Feb 2016 #41

thanks and here's my take discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #20

my eyes, what word salad Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #21

"First we both have to agree that gun nuts fetishize guns, violence and second amendment rights" Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #22

re: "well remember please that you asked...." discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #36

Can you provide a link to the "million of unchecked background checks" claim? Marengo Feb 2016 #37

Perhaps you missed my reply discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #42

I think you may be tapping the fingers down to a nub... Marengo Feb 2016 #43

didn't know if I should reply mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #45

Well, thanks for answering discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #46

When you're able... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #49

moving on discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #44

Fetishize is exactly right rjsquirrel Feb 2016 #51

Your interlocutor is having a time-out. Something about gun control seems to induce logorrhea... friendly_iconoclast Feb 2016 #58

Who will be coming for your guns, gun owner? Marengo Feb 2016 #59

Hopefully the people can get their message thru the anti-BS. ileus Feb 2016 #8

The "people" send their message loud and clear with each NICS check DonP Feb 2016 #11

Also ammo plants DashOneBravo Feb 2016 #38

"Sea change?" Change of metaphors since "tipping point" seems rusted over. Eleanors38 Feb 2016 #14

Sandy Hook was a tipping point that CAUSED the sea change. nt flamin lib Feb 2016 #16

Don't see it. Gun rights advocates are more mobilized than ever... Eleanors38 Feb 2016 #17

What that 'sea change' in blue Massachusetts looks like: friendly_iconoclast Feb 2016 #18

They couldn't get an AWB passed in neighboring Rhode Island post Sandy Hook hack89 Feb 2016 #24

Did I hear someone say "tipping point"? pablo_marmol Feb 2016 #25

It has changed. deathrind Feb 2016 #26

This is why we'll never get anywhere. beevul Feb 2016 #27

It's a sad sight to witness otherwise intelligent people in the throes of false consensus effect friendly_iconoclast Feb 2016 #29

You make a lot of... deathrind Feb 2016 #30

Nope. Going by the evidence provided is not an assumption. beevul Feb 2016 #35

Someone forgot to inform the citizens of Illinois, Minnesota, and Massachusetts... friendly_iconoclast Feb 2016 #28

It will come about in the same... deathrind Feb 2016 #31

Your analogy is inapt. branford Feb 2016 #32

Your, deathrind Feb 2016 #33

And your lack of a cogent/honest response is noted as well. pablo_marmol Feb 2016 #47

You conflate criminal misuse and lawful use friendly_iconoclast Feb 2016 #34