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In reply to the discussion: Over 70 American Intellectuals Call for 'Targeted Boycott' of Israeli Settlements [View all]shira
(30,109 posts)25. You've been wrong about BDS the whole time, insisting it's only settlements.
If you claim that BDS against the settlements only isn't BDS, then why is there legislation saying otherwise?
Omar Barghouti's BDS is pretty clear. It's his movement. He created it. Legislation targets all boycotts, that of Gush Shalom and these 70 signees as well as anti-zionist BDS that boycotts everything Israel.
I must reiterate that I think that BDS is all about the settlements and the occupation, simply because all acts of BDS are connected to the settlements and the occupation and all legislation against BDS only targets those who do BDS against the settlements and the occupation.
I suppose you'll believe whatever you wish to believe. Don't let the facts confuse you.
Anti-zionist BDS is very clear it's about right-of-return as well, which is why these 70 signees oppose it. You support right-of-return, meaning you support the very same BDS of Omar Barghouti. Anti-zionist BDS. There is no other BDS. It's not a zionist movement only against settlements & supportive of a Jewish state. You know that despite the pretense.
Cultural boycotts, boycotting Matisyahu, & insisting that artists & singers boycott Israel is anti-zionist BDS. Non-normality in relations between Jews & Palestinians (separating rather than bringing them together in peace) is your brand of BDS. The very fact Mondoweiss advocates this repulsive BDS, and you support Mondoweiss, goes to show you support repulsive anti-zionist BDS as well. I've never once seen you declare Mondoweiss is wrong about BDS and they're practically the voice of the BDS movement on the Internet, amplifying the voices of repulsive BDS leaders Omar Barghouti, Max Blumenthal, Ben White & Ali Abunimah. They want all Israel boycotted. You know this very well.
I'm however glad that you've realized that there are people and companies that boycott the settlements and the occupation, but not Israel. The self-appointed BDS Movement has caused a lot of damage to BDS.
I wrote to you about Uri Avnery a while ago. His Gush Shalom movement boycotts settlements only, not Israel. Our fellow participant here, Israeli, is part of Gush Shalom. They actually do boycott settlement products & call on others to do so. In that thread you acted as though Uri Avnery wasn't serious about opposing settlements. Why? Are these 70 signees in the OP not serious either?
Here's the catch. You like to pretend BDS is only about settlements & promoting 2 states. That's a bald-faced lie. Uri Avnery & these 70 signees definitely support 2 states, including a Jewish Israeli state. You oppose a Jewish state & support a full right-of-return because your brand of BDS is the same repulsive anti-zionist BDS you pretend not to support.
***Show me something on the Internet where the BDS movement calls for only boycotting settlements while promoting 2 states. Alternatively, explain to me why the companies you list which boycott Israel just have to be supporters of anti-zionist BDS and that they're not like these 70 signees or Uri Avnery.
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Over 70 American Intellectuals Call for 'Targeted Boycott' of Israeli Settlements [View all]
Little Tich
Sep 2016
OP
"We, the undersigned, oppose an economic, political, or cultural boycott of Israel itself"
oberliner
Sep 2016
#3
Do you think that opposing the settlements in some form is a good idea, or is it better to not
Little Tich
Sep 2016
#7
All legislation against BDS targets the type that's against the settlements,
Little Tich
Sep 2016
#14
FreedomCall UK divested due Israel's war on Gaza, and G4S were involved in the occupation.
Little Tich
Sep 2016
#16
Israel bombing and killing civilians in occupied Gaza is the "occupation" part.
Little Tich
Sep 2016
#38
What part of FreedomCall boycotting all Israel (not just settlements) don't u get?
shira
Sep 2016
#41
So we have whittled down all those Israel BDSers on the list to only one company
Little Tich
Sep 2016
#44
The legal definition of BDS in every piece of legislation against BDS includes the occupied territor
Little Tich
Sep 2016
#22
It seems as those who signed the letter support BDS of the settlements, but oppose the all out BDS
Little Tich
Sep 2016
#34
To recap: The lawmakers in 13 US states firmly believe that BDS of the settlements and BDS of Israel
Little Tich
Sep 2016
#40
Netanyahu is a Hitler apologist who hates Palestinians and who will probably
Little Tich
Sep 2016
#39