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lees1975

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Sat Dec 21, 2024, 11:29 AM Dec 21

How many Democratic voters stayed home in November because of the failure to prosecute Trump for insurrection? [View all]

https://signalpress.blogspot.com/2024/12/how-many-democratic-voters-stayed-home.html

Was it enough to cost Kamala Harris the election?

The slow-walking, almost deliberate and intentional failure to bring Trump to trial by Attorney General Merrick Garland and the United States Justice Department hasn't been the topic of discussion in any post-election coverage in the mainstream media. I haven't even heard anyone on MSNBC put together the inconsistency between Democratic party rhetoric that Trump is "an existential threat to American Constitutional Democracy," and the complete and total failure of Garland and the justice department of the Biden administration to prosecute him for obvious crimes he committed that would have made him ineligible to run for President and neutralized the threat he posed.

I don't expect the mainstream media to provide an honest assessment of the factors leading up to Harris' "razor thin" election loss. They've done nothing but cover every move Trump has made every single day since he left the White House in 2021, giving him a much larger platform than they did to the sitting President of the United States. We won't hear anything they don't want us to hear.

Personally, the painfully and deliberately slow movement of the justice department under Garland's leadership in pursuing the incitement of the January 6th insurrection by Trump, was a huge frustration. How is it that the House of Representatives can conduct an investigation, uncover mountains of irrefutable, obvious and direct evidence that Trump was directly responsible for all of the planning and organizing, including having right wing militants already at the Capitol when the crowd he incited arrived, and lay that out in a nationally televised series of hearings, which convinced over 60% of the American people that he was directly responsible for it, but the justice department doesn't actually get around to prosecuting it in a timely matter?

That makes me damn angry.


I haven't seen any exit polling or any research that has been done to indicate the effect the failure of the justice department to prosecute Trump and end his threat to American democracy on democratic voters staying home, or independent voters deciding that the Democrats weren't really serious. But it would be an educated guess, considering how razor thin the margins were in enough swing states to change the election results, that Merrick Garland's failure to prosecute Trump for serious crimes against the American people was one of the major causes for Democrats staying home, and for Harris losing the election.
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Great question. sop Dec 21 #1
Might have helped if Garland had gone after trump earlier. Garland might have also understood what a chitshow Silent Type Dec 21 #2
Have you read the report of the House committee? lees1975 Dec 21 #6
If they stayed home over that they are fucking idiots bottomofthehill Dec 21 #3
+1000. Paladin Dec 21 #4
But the failure to prosecute and convict him was a demonstration that one thing didn't matter. lees1975 Dec 21 #10
Short answer: not enough to make a noticeable difference. hay rick Dec 21 #5
I don't know about that. lees1975 Dec 21 #9
People who were upset at Garland's tardy prosecution were paying attention. hay rick Dec 21 #31
Right Wiz Imp Dec 21 #11
More likke 89%. 13 million registered voters didn''t vote, and a higher percentage of Democrats than Republicans. lees1975 Dec 21 #14
Not sure where your numbers are coming from, there was a 64% voter turn out bottomofthehill Dec 21 #35
Garland is totally at fault Trump should have been eliminated by 2022, gordianot Dec 21 #7
If he had been convicted - Nigrum Cattus Dec 21 #8
Bush brothers and corrupt SCOTUS never held accountable for their 2000 election theft GoreWon2000 Dec 21 #12
+1 leftstreet Dec 21 #17
i think it was a factor that influenced a lot of people orleans Dec 21 #13
No. MangoMoose Dec 21 #15
"I blame Clooney and Reiner and Pelosi and every other dem who forced Biden out.. 3catwoman3 Dec 21 #21
How many Dem ballots got disappeared? Irish_Dem Dec 21 #16
Damn 3auld6phart Dec 21 #18
Probably a non-zero number. There were a lot of reasons to say "to hell with it." n/t malthaussen Dec 21 #19
Garland. He made them stay home. Just like Hillary made them do it in 2016. Beastly Boy Dec 21 #20
Stop making excuses for people who didn't vote. nycbos Dec 21 #22
Failure to prosecute Dave Id Dec 21 #23
Honestly, there is plenty of blame to go 'round. the_sly_pig Dec 21 #24
I don't believe that many voters stayed home KS Toronado Dec 21 #25
It was MAGA repubs DownriverDem Dec 21 #26
Makes no sense to me. Voters who wanted Trump in prison ... Martin Eden Dec 21 #27
Those people must not have read the cheerleaders' thoughts on the matter Orrex Dec 21 #28
Garland's problem was that he seemed afraid DeeDeeNY Dec 21 #29
Or uniformed and disillusioned by another departure from a clear, simple message. lees1975 Dec 21 #34
I think you mean the Mr. Musk's chief of staff's legal strategy of delay Tweedy Dec 21 #30
Makes no sense but that seems to be the character of american voters these day, no sense. nt yaesu Dec 21 #32
Mostly it was morons who fell for bullshit issues that aren't really issues. CrispyQ Dec 21 #33
Sadly not a factor pattyloutwo Dec 21 #36
Talk about short-sighted... Blue_Tires Dec 21 #37
SC Jack Smith Got a Late Start Investigating Trumpf C0RI0LANUS Dec 22 #38
It certainly contributed to the general cynicism that people feel toward democracy and politics. Intractable Dec 22 #39
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