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Polybius

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33. You're right about one thing: distrust of large tech companies is understandable
Thu Feb 19, 2026, 05:08 AM
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Big platforms absolutely want data, and they’ve earned skepticism over the years. I’m not arguing that Meta — or any AI company — deserves blind trust.

What I am pushing back on is the idea that smart glasses uniquely transform ordinary people into surveillance agents in a way smartphones, body cams, dashcams, and social media already haven’t.

1. “You’re trivializing how much easier smart glasses make spying.”

They change the form factor. They don’t change the underlying capability.

A modern smartphone:

Has a higher-resolution camera
Has optical zoom
Has stabilization
Can live-stream instantly
Can upload automatically to cloud storage

If someone wants to secretly record people, a phone is already a far more powerful tool. Smart glasses are actually more limited in angle, battery, and control. They’re not some quantum leap in surveillance — they’re a hands-free camera.

The difference is subtlety of posture, not power of capture. And subtle recording has existed for years via phones held low, chest-mounted cameras, button cams, etc.

2. “You’re exaggerating legitimate uses for AI while walking around.”

Not really. For some people, especially those with visual impairments, AI description features are genuinely useful. Even for fully sighted people, real-time translation, object recognition, or contextual info can be practical.

Is it essential for survival? No.

But neither is:
AirPods
Smartwatches
Voice assistants
Fitness trackers

Convenience tech doesn’t need to be life-or-death to be legitimate.

3. “Your wearing smart glasses is still a good reason to be suspicious.”

Suspicion isn’t a rights framework — it’s a social reaction.

People were suspicious of:

Early Bluetooth earpieces
Google Glass users
People filming with GoPros
People flying drones

Over time, norms settle. Suspicion doesn’t automatically equal wrongdoing. If someone behaves normally, most of that suspicion fades in context.

4. Law enforcement using them

The 404 Media article you cited is important. If U.S. Customs and Border Protection agents are wearing Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses during immigration raids, that absolutely raises civil liberties questions.

But notice something critical:

That concern is about government use, not civilian ownership.

Law enforcement already uses:

Body cameras
Facial recognition databases
Dron
Stingrays
License plate readers

If agencies adopt a consumer product, that’s a policy and oversight issue. It doesn’t logically follow that ordinary citizens shouldn’t own the device.

Otherwise, by that reasoning, once police started using smartphones, civilians should’ve stopped carrying them too.

5. “Meta is guiding privacy norms because it’s early.”

That’s fair — early-stage tech often has company-driven norms before regulation catches up.

But that’s not permanent. Smartphones were once dominated by a few players shaping norms. Now privacy law, court rulings, and public pressure heavily influence what companies can and cannot do.

If smart glasses become widespread, they will fall under:

State privacy laws

Federal wiretap laws
Biometric data laws (in some states)
Civil liability

Meta doesn’t get to operate outside the legal system just because the form factor is new.

6. The protest scenario

You’re worried about:

Facial recognition
Protester identification
Government abuse

Someone saying something angry on camera

Those are serious concerns — but again, smartphones already enable all of that at scale. In fact, most protest footage that ends up online today is captured via phones and posted to social platforms.

The risk you’re describing is about:

Data retention
Uploading to corporate servers
Government subpoenas
Facial recognition databases

Those exist independently of smart glasses.

If someone is concerned about surveillance at a protest, the safest approach is digital hygiene — not assuming glasses are uniquely dangerous while phones are somehow benign.

7. “AI companies are desperate for training data.”

Yes, companies want data. But:

Users can control upload settings.
Not all captured footage is automatically used for training.
Policies around AI training data are under intense regulatory scrutiny globally.

If the issue is AI training practices, that’s a broader regulatory debate — not something solved by opposing one wearable device.

The real divide here

You’re arguing from systemic distrust:

Corporations will exploit data.
Governments will abuse access.
New tech amplifies surveillance creep.
That’s a coherent worldview.

I’m arguing that:

The surveillance ecosystem already exists.
Smart glasses are incremental, not revolutionary.
Misuse is a behavioral and regulatory issue, not an inherent property of the device.
Civilian ownership doesn’t equal endorsement of state surveillance.

It’s reasonable to demand strong data governance and limits on law enforcement use. I support that.

But equating every civilian wearer with “mobile surveillance for AI bros and the government” assumes malicious intent and inevitability of abuse — and that’s a leap.

The conversation we probably should be having isn’t “ban smart glasses” — it’s:

What are the default upload settings?
What transparency exists around AI training?
What limits exist for government acquisition of consumer-captured data?

Should visible indicators be standardized across all wearable cameras?

That’s a policy conversation.

Calling individual users inherently suspicious because they wear a new form factor camera feels less like a privacy argument and more like a presumption of guilt.

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What could go wrong? FalloutShelter Tuesday #1
I hope all these products FAIL!!!! Multichromatic Tuesday #2
I have Ray-Ban Meta's that have been out for a couple of years now Polybius Tuesday #6
Because most people don't want to have to wonder if anyone wearing glasses is taking photos and/or highplainsdem Tuesday #9
Ray-Ban Meta's are a lot different than small companies who put out similar glasses Polybius Tuesday #10
Meta is planning to add facial recognition to its smart glasses. I guess you missed the news. highplainsdem Tuesday #12
No, we were talking about currently, not speculation on the future Polybius Tuesday #13
I don't believe there aren't ways to disable that light, or that it can't simply stop working. And highplainsdem Tuesday #14
There are ways, but it's quite complicated Polybius Tuesday #16
Btw, would you trust anyone wearing smart glasses and watching children to be watching innocently, highplainsdem Tuesday #15
I would thoroughly vet anyone around my kids Polybius Tuesday #17
No, we don't have to tolerate people wearing glasses that could be recording and storing photos, highplainsdem Tuesday #18
Google Glass was discontinued because it was expensive and the technology wasn't there yet in 2013 Polybius Wednesday #20
The reasons Google Glass was discontinued usually have privacy concerns at or near the top. Tech highplainsdem Wednesday #21
Smart glasses don't create new surveillance, they operate within the same legal framework Polybius Wednesday #28
You're much too trusting of AI companies and how desperate they always are for more training data. highplainsdem Wednesday #29
You're right about one thing: distrust of large tech companies is understandable Polybius Thursday #33
The formatting of your reply is very reminiscent of outputs from genAI. You're defending/promoting highplainsdem Thursday #35
I'll clear this up directly: it's me writing the replies Polybius Thursday #41
Thanks for explaining. And I'll accept your explanation because I would like to believe that people on highplainsdem 15 hrs ago #42
Thank you for accepting my explanation, you are a great person Polybius 3 hrs ago #43
Some Reddit threads on what people think of people wearing smart glasses: highplainsdem Wednesday #30
I honestly don't care what a handful of Reddit threads say Polybius Thursday #34
This. And people are defending it. travelingthrulife Wednesday #22
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LOL... Thank you for my laugh of the day FemDemERA Tuesday #5
I have zero doubt that the people who buy these products Skittles Tuesday #7
Just........ Red Mountain Tuesday #8
Google's brand of smart glasses, Google Glass, were discontinued soon after they were introduced highplainsdem Tuesday #11
Reminds me of this parody. Crowman2009 Tuesday #19
Just no! SheltieLover Wednesday #23
They are trying to normalize surveillance! SheltieLover Wednesday #24
Yes! And it surprises and disappoints me that any Democrats, any liberals, would be okay with this, highplainsdem Wednesday #25
Absolutely in agreement with all you've stated! SheltieLover Wednesday #27
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That ad is so hilarious - and sexist. highplainsdem Thursday #36
It keeps them out of trouble. hunter Thursday #38
I plan to sell my house so I can buy all those goodies! chouchou Thursday #32
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