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In reply to the discussion: Apple is reportedly planning to launch AI-powered glasses, a pendant, and AirPods [View all]Polybius
(21,697 posts)Big platforms absolutely want data, and theyve earned skepticism over the years. Im not arguing that Meta or any AI company deserves blind trust.
What I am pushing back on is the idea that smart glasses uniquely transform ordinary people into surveillance agents in a way smartphones, body cams, dashcams, and social media already havent.
1. Youre trivializing how much easier smart glasses make spying.
They change the form factor. They dont change the underlying capability.
A modern smartphone:
Has a higher-resolution camera
Has optical zoom
Has stabilization
Can live-stream instantly
Can upload automatically to cloud storage
If someone wants to secretly record people, a phone is already a far more powerful tool. Smart glasses are actually more limited in angle, battery, and control. Theyre not some quantum leap in surveillance theyre a hands-free camera.
The difference is subtlety of posture, not power of capture. And subtle recording has existed for years via phones held low, chest-mounted cameras, button cams, etc.
2. Youre exaggerating legitimate uses for AI while walking around.
Not really. For some people, especially those with visual impairments, AI description features are genuinely useful. Even for fully sighted people, real-time translation, object recognition, or contextual info can be practical.
Is it essential for survival? No.
But neither is:
AirPods
Smartwatches
Voice assistants
Fitness trackers
Convenience tech doesnt need to be life-or-death to be legitimate.
3. Your wearing smart glasses is still a good reason to be suspicious.
Suspicion isnt a rights framework its a social reaction.
People were suspicious of:
Early Bluetooth earpieces
Google Glass users
People filming with GoPros
People flying drones
Over time, norms settle. Suspicion doesnt automatically equal wrongdoing. If someone behaves normally, most of that suspicion fades in context.
4. Law enforcement using them
The 404 Media article you cited is important. If U.S. Customs and Border Protection agents are wearing Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses during immigration raids, that absolutely raises civil liberties questions.
But notice something critical:
That concern is about government use, not civilian ownership.
Law enforcement already uses:
Body cameras
Facial recognition databases
Dron
Stingrays
License plate readers
If agencies adopt a consumer product, thats a policy and oversight issue. It doesnt logically follow that ordinary citizens shouldnt own the device.
Otherwise, by that reasoning, once police started using smartphones, civilians shouldve stopped carrying them too.
5. Meta is guiding privacy norms because its early.
Thats fair early-stage tech often has company-driven norms before regulation catches up.
But thats not permanent. Smartphones were once dominated by a few players shaping norms. Now privacy law, court rulings, and public pressure heavily influence what companies can and cannot do.
If smart glasses become widespread, they will fall under:
State privacy laws
Federal wiretap laws
Biometric data laws (in some states)
Civil liability
Meta doesnt get to operate outside the legal system just because the form factor is new.
6. The protest scenario
Youre worried about:
Facial recognition
Protester identification
Government abuse
Someone saying something angry on camera
Those are serious concerns but again, smartphones already enable all of that at scale. In fact, most protest footage that ends up online today is captured via phones and posted to social platforms.
The risk youre describing is about:
Data retention
Uploading to corporate servers
Government subpoenas
Facial recognition databases
Those exist independently of smart glasses.
If someone is concerned about surveillance at a protest, the safest approach is digital hygiene not assuming glasses are uniquely dangerous while phones are somehow benign.
7. AI companies are desperate for training data.
Yes, companies want data. But:
Users can control upload settings.
Not all captured footage is automatically used for training.
Policies around AI training data are under intense regulatory scrutiny globally.
If the issue is AI training practices, thats a broader regulatory debate not something solved by opposing one wearable device.
The real divide here
Youre arguing from systemic distrust:
Corporations will exploit data.
Governments will abuse access.
New tech amplifies surveillance creep.
Thats a coherent worldview.
Im arguing that:
The surveillance ecosystem already exists.
Smart glasses are incremental, not revolutionary.
Misuse is a behavioral and regulatory issue, not an inherent property of the device.
Civilian ownership doesnt equal endorsement of state surveillance.
Its reasonable to demand strong data governance and limits on law enforcement use. I support that.
But equating every civilian wearer with mobile surveillance for AI bros and the government assumes malicious intent and inevitability of abuse and thats a leap.
The conversation we probably should be having isnt ban smart glasses its:
What are the default upload settings?
What transparency exists around AI training?
What limits exist for government acquisition of consumer-captured data?
Should visible indicators be standardized across all wearable cameras?
Thats a policy conversation.
Calling individual users inherently suspicious because they wear a new form factor camera feels less like a privacy argument and more like a presumption of guilt.