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Polybius

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28. Smart glasses don't create new surveillance, they operate within the same legal framework
Wed Feb 18, 2026, 08:20 PM
16 hrs ago

There’s a lot there, so I’m going to respond point-by-point rather than brushing it off.

1. “Prices come down. Privacy concerns don’t.”

True — privacy concerns don’t disappear. But they also aren’t static. They get addressed through design changes, policy, norms, and law. That’s exactly what happened with smartphones, dashcams, Ring doorbells, and body cams. None of those eliminated privacy concerns — they forced clearer rules and expectations.

The Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses are operating inside an already-established legal framework about recording in public. They didn’t create that framework.

2. “You can disable the LED.”

Yes, I’m aware that people online experiment with hardware modifications. But that’s not the same as normal use.

If someone:

Drills into a $300–$400 device
Risks breaking it
Voids the warranty
Potentially damages internal components

That’s intentional tampering.

You can also:

Jailbreak phones
Disable shutter sounds
Install hidden camera apps
Modify drones

The existence of modding communities doesn’t mean the default product is designed for secrecy. It means determined people can modify hardware — which is true of almost any device with a camera.

If someone is willing to physically alter hardware to secretly record others, they were already willing to violate norms. The glasses didn’t create that intent.

3. “People don’t notice the LED.”

In bright sunlight, yes — visibility of any small light is reduced. The same is true of:

A phone screen angled downward
A smartwatch recording
A GoPro clipped to clothing

No indicator system is perfect in every lighting condition. The relevant question is: Did the manufacturer attempt visible disclosure? In this case, yes.

And again — a smartphone can record far more discreetly than someone turning their head directly at you with glasses that visibly light up.

4. “AI companies gather data and share with authorities.”

This is where the argument shifts from device ethics to broader distrust of tech companies and government. That’s a separate — and legitimate — policy debate.

But it applies equally to:

iPhones
Android phones
Social media uploads
Cloud backups
Email providers

If someone records a protest on a smartphone and uploads it to Instagram, that footage is also on corporate servers and accessible via lawful process. That risk isn’t unique to smart glasses.

And importantly: users control whether media is uploaded or kept local. Not everyone is live-streaming everything to AI systems.

If the concern is mass surveillance or government overreach, that’s about data governance laws, not about whether a camera is mounted on your face or in your hand.

5. “Someone recording at a protest is a threat.”

Anyone recording at a protest — with any device — creates that same dynamic. Phones already capture high-resolution, zoomed, stabilized video with far greater detail than smart glasses.

In fact, someone openly holding a phone above a crowd often captures more faces than someone wearing glasses casually looking around.

Again, the risk you’re describing is tied to recording in general — not uniquely to this product category.

6. “Creeps will use it.”

Creeps already:

Use phones
Hide cameras
Install spy devices
Misuse AirTags
Abuse drones

We don’t ban all smartphones because some people take upskirt photos. We criminalize the behavior.

Technology doesn’t eliminate bad actors. It sets default guardrails and relies on laws for enforcement.

7. “Using AI counts against your trustworthiness.”

That’s a broad generalization.

AI is used for:

Accessibility tools
Navigation assistance
Language translation
Image recognition for the visually impaired
Productivity support

Saying “using AI makes you less trustworthy” is like saying “using a calculator makes you dishonest” because some students cheat.

Intent matters. Context matters.

8. “Wearing glasses will make everyone suspicious.”

We already went through this phase with:

Bluetooth headsets

AirPods
Early smartwatches
Body cameras

At first, people reacted strongly. Over time, norms adjusted. Most people now assume someone wearing AirPods is listening to music — not secretly recording.

If smart glasses ever become widespread, visible indicators and cultural familiarity will normalize their presence the same way smartphones did.

The core disagreement

You’re arguing from a worst-case lens:
What if someone disables safeguards?
What if data is misused?
What if the government abuses it?
What if a creep exploits it?

Those are valid concerns — but they apply to nearly all modern recording technology.

I’m arguing from a proportionality lens:

The legal environment hasn’t changed.
The default hardware includes visible disclosure.
The vast majority of use cases are mundane.
Bad actors already have more powerful tools in their pockets.

If the issue is broader AI data practices or government overreach, that’s a serious civic discussion. But that’s not unique to these glasses.

The device itself doesn’t automatically convert someone into “mobile surveillance for AI bros.” It’s a camera — in a different form factor — operating under the same laws, norms, and risks that already exist.

We can debate regulation and corporate data policy. But treating the hardware category itself as inherently sinister assumes malicious intent by default, and that’s a much bigger claim than “this technology has tradeoffs.”

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What could go wrong? FalloutShelter Tuesday #1
I hope all these products FAIL!!!! Multichromatic Tuesday #2
I have Ray-Ban Meta's that have been out for a couple of years now Polybius Tuesday #6
Because most people don't want to have to wonder if anyone wearing glasses is taking photos and/or highplainsdem Tuesday #9
Ray-Ban Meta's are a lot different than small companies who put out similar glasses Polybius Tuesday #10
Meta is planning to add facial recognition to its smart glasses. I guess you missed the news. highplainsdem Tuesday #12
No, we were talking about currently, not speculation on the future Polybius Tuesday #13
I don't believe there aren't ways to disable that light, or that it can't simply stop working. And highplainsdem Tuesday #14
There are ways, but it's quite complicated Polybius Tuesday #16
Btw, would you trust anyone wearing smart glasses and watching children to be watching innocently, highplainsdem Tuesday #15
I would thoroughly vet anyone around my kids Polybius Tuesday #17
No, we don't have to tolerate people wearing glasses that could be recording and storing photos, highplainsdem Tuesday #18
Google Glass was discontinued because it was expensive and the technology wasn't there yet in 2013 Polybius Yesterday #20
The reasons Google Glass was discontinued usually have privacy concerns at or near the top. Tech highplainsdem Yesterday #21
Smart glasses don't create new surveillance, they operate within the same legal framework Polybius 16 hrs ago #28
You're much too trusting of AI companies and how desperate they always are for more training data. highplainsdem 15 hrs ago #29
You're right about one thing: distrust of large tech companies is understandable Polybius 8 hrs ago #33
The formatting of your reply is very reminiscent of outputs from genAI. You're defending/promoting highplainsdem 2 hrs ago #35
Some Reddit threads on what people think of people wearing smart glasses: highplainsdem 15 hrs ago #30
I honestly don't care what a handful of Reddit threads say Polybius 7 hrs ago #34
This. And people are defending it. travelingthrulife Yesterday #22
To all those consuming morons willing to buy this junk, I would like to quote Jim Morrison by saying.... Crowman2009 Tuesday #3
"They were a double pair of Joo Janta 200 Super-Chromatic Peril Sensitive Sunglasses" muriel_volestrangler Tuesday #4
LOL... Thank you for my laugh of the day FemDemERA Tuesday #5
I have zero doubt that the people who buy these products Skittles Tuesday #7
Just........ Red Mountain Tuesday #8
Google's brand of smart glasses, Google Glass, were discontinued soon after they were introduced highplainsdem Tuesday #11
Reminds me of this parody. Crowman2009 Tuesday #19
Just no! SheltieLover Yesterday #23
They are trying to normalize surveillance! SheltieLover Yesterday #24
Yes! And it surprises and disappoints me that any Democrats, any liberals, would be okay with this, highplainsdem Yesterday #25
Absolutely in agreement with all you've stated! SheltieLover Yesterday #27
I wouldn't want an apple product unless it was made of gold and given to me by cook yaesu Yesterday #26
I'm still waiting for my Honewell kitchen computer... hunter 14 hrs ago #31
That ad is so hilarious - and sexist. highplainsdem 2 hrs ago #36
It keeps them out of trouble. hunter 35 min ago #38
I plan to sell my house so I can buy all those goodies! chouchou 13 hrs ago #32
The prices are coming down, unfortunately. Which means that more and more teachers will have to highplainsdem 2 hrs ago #37
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