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Cirsium

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49. It has nothing to do with that at all

Thu Mar 6, 2025, 05:08 PM

Mar 2025

The right wingers made this an issue, out of thin air, and the only reason that the public bought into it is because the Republicans fear mongered about it, and the Democrats have not fought back. Worse, many Democrats have given it fuel.

The right wingers have led you to be arguing abiut this non-issue. That is a win for them. That is all they were after, to get us onto their playing field and playing by their rules.

Yes, if there were hordes of transgender people trying to game the system in order to unfairly win athletic contests, and invading women's restrooms to rape people, and if kids were going to grade school in the morning and coming home castrated - then, yes, we might have an issue.

But none of that is true. And that is the "issue" what the Republicans are in fact saying. You give it legitimacy with your "can it scientifically be determined that transgender women retain some biological competitive advantage over other women" stuff.

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Gavin Newsom breaks with Democrats on trans athletes in sports [View all] kelly1mm Mar 2025 OP

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A creep? No way. It was just one thing discussed. There is a fairness issue in terms or strength and aerobic capacity. brush Mar 2025 #8

So what is his position? i didnt find it clear from the article. Amaryllis Mar 2025 #2

You are right that it is unclear. It is clear that he thinks transwomen competing in women's sports is 'unfair' kelly1mm Mar 2025 #5

Trans women AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2025 #51

That's not how the community describes itself hueymahl Mar 2025 #58

Just have to keep repeating what the election was supposedly about BumRushDaShow Mar 2025 #3

As the mother of a female athlete, I agree with Newsome. lark Mar 2025 #4

You may not get flamed as according to recent surveys a majority of Democrats agree with your and Gov kelly1mm Mar 2025 #7

You are not alone radicalleft Mar 2025 #17

What the fuck is there to flame? It is a reasonable concern. I am all fucking for Transgender Rights. SoFlaBro Mar 2025 #29

Evidently not AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2025 #53

So do I Mysterian Mar 2025 #37

It's complicated TexasBushwhacker Mar 2025 #50

So you think your daughter can play in sports AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2025 #52

Maybe men, women and transgener leagues. See research results below. brush Mar 2025 #6

"Transgender leagues" are not a viable thing EarlG Mar 2025 #13

I have not bought into propaganda. There is a fairness issue as transgenders have an aerobid... brush Mar 2025 #15

If you think there are enough transgender athletes to form transgender leagues EarlG Mar 2025 #20

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Thank you. Solly Mack Mar 2025 #34

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It is a non-issue Cirsium Mar 2025 #38

I wish the medical community would weigh in on this a bit more. travelingthrulife Mar 2025 #9

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2025 #10

You mean Lia Thomas who won one race and otherwise was completely average? EarlG Mar 2025 #16

Brittney griner is the biggest , tallest, strongest female athlete I can think of and questionseverything Mar 2025 #19

Sounds like he's running Jose Garcia Mar 2025 #11

Yep! Only so many 80/20 issues you can be on the wrong side of and be a viable candidate nationally. nt kelly1mm Mar 2025 #12

It is not an issue Cirsium Mar 2025 #39

In the article Gov Newsom thinks it is an issue that hurt VP Harris's Presidential campaign to the extent kelly1mm Mar 2025 #43

Tragic Cirsium Mar 2025 #45

IMO he was asked to run last summer but turned Clooney and others down Bengus81 Mar 2025 #31

Trans people markie Mar 2025 #14

Lean same, with reservations because this could have been handled without making it an excuse to bash good people. Silent Type Mar 2025 #18

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Governor Newsom left the room. Presidential Candidate Newsom emerged. usonian Mar 2025 #22

I am beyond disgusted! people Mar 2025 #24

Harris' loss cleared space for nuance in Dem positions on Trans issues. maxsolomon Mar 2025 #25

Could some sports go the way of boxing with weight divisions? chowder66 Mar 2025 #26

Some small clubs have them. The Grand Illuminist Mar 2025 #27

Why not just create some sort of new categorization system for Kashkakat v.2.0 Mar 2025 #28

Gavin wants to be president IronLionZion Mar 2025 #30

The fundamental question is: Why do Women and Men compete separately? Tom Rinaldo Mar 2025 #32

There is no issue here Cirsium Mar 2025 #41

In reality, sure, it is inconsequential. That doesn't mean it isn't "an issue." Tom Rinaldo Mar 2025 #46

That is a complete betrayal Cirsium Mar 2025 #47

It presupposes that it can scientifically be determined... Tom Rinaldo Mar 2025 #48

It has nothing to do with that at all Cirsium Mar 2025 #49

You can't effect change unless you win. We also need to win back democrats that voted for Trump due to this issue. Pisces Mar 2025 #54

The GQP has certainly found a fabulous non-issue issue with which to divide people groundloop Mar 2025 #33

Why is it I hear more "discussion" on this from politicians BaronChocula Mar 2025 #35

There are very few transgender athletes; and many, many politicians. JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2025 #40

Some progressive Dems I've spoken to think trans issues were a factor in Harris' loss SpankMe Mar 2025 #36

"nuancing their stance" Cirsium Mar 2025 #42

Newsom is a corpratist Nigrum Cattus Mar 2025 #44

Almost enough PeterIsMyBrother Mar 2025 #55

Of all my Dem friends (and I have many) tavernier Mar 2025 #56

Expressing that view, one that per polls is shared by a majority of Democrats here on DU is against the site rules kelly1mm Mar 2025 #57

I think that's enough of this thread EarlG Mar 2025 #60