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Dem4life1970

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47. It is self executing...

Mon Jan 6, 2025, 12:15 AM

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...it's too bad that SCROTUS ruled against Colorado, then 5 of them (Barrett disagreed/or voted and then wrote a dissent, if I remember right) turned around and pulled out of thin air the congressional requirement to enforce the 14th Amendment, Section 3.

If anything, they should've highlighted that they did NOT disagree with the Colorado Supreme Court's finding and the lower courts finding that he did engage in insurrection. They should've said he can be on the ballot, but he would not be allowed to take office according to the 14th amendment.

However, it is better for Democrats and the country if T**** is sworn in as the lamest of lame ducks, instead of Vance who could run again in 2028. I hope by 2026 the GOP is polling just above a plugged toilet in time for the midterms.

It is hard for a VP to run and win after a President's term. Only George HW Bush (and Biden-although he put a 4 year gap in there) have done so over the last 100 years or so.

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There is no process. ColinC Sunday #42

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they use the term "adjudicated" -- I think from the Colorado Supreme Court ruling cadoman Monday #70

"An effort is underway to urge Congress ..." speak easy Sunday #2

Unfortunitly true yankee87 Sunday #39

The Picketts Charge theory of politics speak easy Monday #59

Any effort to resist installing a nazi administration is worthwhile. Think. Again. Monday #57

That is what the US Constitution says,... magicarpet Sunday #3

.... recording the displeasure of the citizenry,... magicarpet Sunday #4

Yes, protests must be strong, courageous, and often. Magoo48 Sunday #14

I'm in Palm Springs which is geezerville now that the snowbirds are here (including me). OMGWTF Sunday #23

Yup Magoo48 Monday #64

I'm so happy to hear this is happening William Seger Sunday #5

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The Constitution doesn't require a conviction. bucolic_frolic Sunday #10

Well, we USED to do a lot of things differently.Yes, the SCOTUS is full of it but thats what we've got. Callie1979 Sunday #11

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Thats not going to happen either. Callie1979 Sunday #16

True, but the point of the protests is that he could and should be disqualified William Seger Sunday #24

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An argument can be made that the amendment means only what it says William Seger Monday #55

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After tomorrow is definitely too late though Polybius Sunday #36

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