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13. I am not sure Trump really cares about this

Mon Dec 16, 2024, 02:01 PM

Dec 16

And I am not sure the SCOTUS wants to deal with this either.

It is a case where the Constitution could not be any more clear. If you are born on US soil, you are a citizen. We can argue if this is a good policy, but there can be no doubt what the 14th means. The same can be said of the 2nd, and we saw with Heller, this Court just invented a whole new doctrine out of thin air. So they could do exactly as this article describes.

But why would they? I know that Bannon, Miller and the other pure Nazis in Trump's circle want to do this. But Trump already got what he wanted from this issue. He got elected. I don't see Trump personally being very motivated to do this, unless he sees a need to rekindle the Nazi passions. Likewise, corporations don't want this because they love using this undocumented labor. They work cheap and they are easy to bully.

My bet is that Trump will be OK with Miller and Bannon stirring up the shit, but it would not surprise me at all to see the SCOTUS punt on this one. After all, the LatinX vote HELPED the Republicans this election. Why mess with something that is working?

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Trump girds for battle with Democrats, Supreme Court over birthright citizenship [View all] BumRushDaShow Dec 16 OP

If he wants to end that LittleGirl Dec 16 #1

I am not sure Trump really cares about this Bluetus Dec 16 #13

I agree. LittleGirl Dec 16 #15

ALL of his children are here as birthright citizens relayerbob Dec 16 #2

But HE was a citizen so that point is moot. Callie1979 Dec 16 #24

Deport them anyway relayerbob Dec 16 #37

Lol Callie1979 Dec 16 #39

So what about the children of birthright Americans? 3825-87867 Dec 16 #3

Unless you happen to be a Native American, you have to leave. Trumps first. Vinca Dec 16 #4

Let's just face the truth. He is going to lose if he goes in with the concept that he is going to Baitball Blogger Dec 16 #5

Well, if that legal scholar Tuberville says we need to do it - we need to do it now. 33taw Dec 16 #6

I know, really? johnnyfins Dec 16 #21

Hopefully, Boebert gives us a quote. 33taw Dec 16 #28

Looks like that slide down those airline stairs and loss of brain cells is really kicking in Bengus81 Dec 16 #32

It's simple, really. The idea is clearly against the Consitution... malthaussen Dec 16 #7

The Constitution Miguelito Loveless Dec 16 #8

More nonsensical distractions by the media ScratchCat Dec 16 #9

Exactly right. A distraction by the media, exactly what Trump wants. EarnestPutz Dec 16 #18

pure insanity-- fuck this asshole to infinity LymphocyteLover Dec 16 #10

Americans should be HAPPY so many people want to come here for our opportunity LymphocyteLover Dec 16 #11

"not necessarily subject to the jurisdiction of the United States" bucolic_frolic Dec 16 #12

I dreamed traitor fell and died Marthe48 Dec 16 #14

If it does happen it better be on TV Callie1979 Dec 16 #25

The article quotes the following: in2herbs Dec 16 #16

I wonder if this applies to his kids? n/t aggiesal Dec 16 #17

That's good news, because it would take a constitutional amendment to achieve, and that isn't going to happen. Martin68 Dec 16 #19

I'm betting he'll use it and the border issues as distraction from other criminal acts he'll be committing. cstanleytech Dec 16 #23

He'll do an executive order & act like thats all it takes. Callie1979 Dec 16 #26

"Being exploited in a way that the framers never anticipated"??? Let's talk 2nd Amendment while we're at it. EarnestPutz Dec 16 #20

He can gird all he wants but it's an Amendment in the Constitution he'll be fighting against. cstanleytech Dec 16 #22

Leave it The Hill to come up with that headline... sheshe2 Dec 16 #27

If your argument is that they are not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, then it follows logically that ET Awful Dec 16 #29

This message was self-deleted by its author Bengus81 Dec 16 #30

Girds? Those are mighty big loins. Sneederbunk Dec 16 #31

He's going to need a mighty strong girdle if does Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 16 #33

Could it be that he just wants to get to the constitution for another reason? bluestarone Dec 16 #34

That is almost all of us Cirsium Dec 16 #35

Tuberville thinks it's a "bad law" mountain grammy Dec 16 #36

I find his "I have always thought..." laughable rpannier Dec 17 #41

Quite clearly, the amendment's framers did expect it to be used in the way that it was, and is muriel_volestrangler Dec 16 #38

14th amendment to the constitution covers this ... 4th Dec 16 #40