then take it to Congress. Let's see how many Maga votes he can get.

And I am not sure the SCOTUS wants to deal with this either.

It is a case where the Constitution could not be any more clear. If you are born on US soil, you are a citizen. We can argue if this is a good policy, but there can be no doubt what the 14th means. The same can be said of the 2nd, and we saw with Heller, this Court just invented a whole new doctrine out of thin air. So they could do exactly as this article describes.

But why would they? I know that Bannon, Miller and the other pure Nazis in Trump's circle want to do this. But Trump already got what he wanted from this issue. He got elected. I don't see Trump personally being very motivated to do this, unless he sees a need to rekindle the Nazi passions. Likewise, corporations don't want this because they love using this undocumented labor. They work cheap and they are easy to bully.

My bet is that Trump will be OK with Miller and Bannon stirring up the shit, but it would not surprise me at all to see the SCOTUS punt on this one. After all, the LatinX vote HELPED the Republicans this election. Why mess with something that is working?

My spouse is naturalized so I’m keeping my eyes on any developments.

since his wives were not US citizens at the time. What do the assholes call them? Oh, yeah, anchor babies. Deport them first.

If a person were born here, say, in the 40s from immigrant parent(s) who became Americans by birthright from immigrant parents, they would be deported, eh Donnie? Would the children, grandchildren etc. of those birthright Americans also be deported? (Freddy was born here from an immigrant father.)
Because Freddy boy Drumpf was born here of immigrants and then "birthright American Citizen" Freddy had Donnie, do we get to deport Donnie?
What I mean is if a person were born in the U.S. from immigrants, they are American Citizens that Donnie wants to deport. But what about the children of Birthright Citizens? Will Donnie deport them? And what of the probability those children of birthright Americans had children? DO THEY get deported, too?

Example1
[Kashyap Pramod Vinod Patel] was born on February 25, 1980, in Garden City, New York, to Indian Gujarati immigrant parents.
Bye Bye, Kash!]

Rational minds want to know.

How about Musk's spawn? He's naturalized. Is that worse? Probably not because he's rich.
Wonder how many Republican Politicians and wealthy are progeny of a previous 'birthright" immigrant? Deport them?

(As an aside, I guess the children of those immigrants who were born here from incarcerated parents during stump's first term are and "were" Americans as American Citizens but were taken from their immigrant parents and...given away to trafficers, sold to foreigners, or does stump care? )

There's no level in hell bad enough for stump and his ilk.

broadbrush apply this to everyone, which is the only way that the Supreme Court might recognize it. But, everyone knows his real intent. He plans to selectively apply it to the Latino Americans he wants to deport. So, the Supreme Court will have to dance a little dance to essentially allow Trump to executively break the will of the Constitution to discriminate against one group of people.

Tuberville is the only one they hit up for a quote? The dumbest guy in the senate?

... and it does not lie within his power to change that. Simple.

Except, of course, that ultimately the USSC determines what is legal and what is Constitutional. And they decide not on the merits of the case, but by their own agenda. So the only question is whether upholding the 14th Amendment lies within their agenda or not. I expect not.

As for unintended consequences and complications, big deal. The Court and the RW fanatics never worry about those things. At worst, after all, it will only create more work for the courts and lawyers.

-- Mal

says what Leonard Leo's bought and paid for puppets says it says.

This isn't going anywhere as birthright citizenship is in the Constitution and there is no legal question here for any court to hear. He can't do this via Executive Order and its DOA in Congress.

decent Americans, anyway

Oh, I see. But they pay taxes, they can be charged with crimes, they need drivers' licenses and insurance, and their birth certificates list a US birthplace, but no, they're not citizens.

Just last night. To my credit, in my dream, I called for help and offered aid as ss gathered around him. I won't foget that dream



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"Republican lawmakers on Capitol Hill say the 14th Amendment’s language, which grants all people born in the United States citizenship, is being exploited in a way the amendment’s framers never anticipated."

Does this mean that the people born in the 13 colonies (states), which is how many states there were when the Constitution was signed, are the only states the framers considered to be entitled to citizenship and birthright status?

Go ahead Rs, hang your hat on this interpretation of the Constitution, or STFU!

The more lost causes Trump pursues, the better, because that distracts him from the rest of his vile agenda. Tuberville's calling it a "bad law" displays just how ignorant the man is. It isn't a law.

When thats blocked, then he'll have one of his little fits & say "I tried!!! Deep state!!"

He's welcome to try to get the Constitution changed but I doubt he'll get enough States to agree.

they can not be prosecuted under any law of the United States, as that requires that they be subject to the jurisdiction of any court in which they may be prosecuted.

Like maybe getting rid of the only two terms for the president? (he wants to be THREE term president) he's a destroyer of everything American.

300 million+ have US citizenship by virtue of being born in the US. That has nothing to do with where our parents were born.

This has nothing to do with the 14th amendment nor with birthright citizenship. It is a pretext for ramping up persecution of black and brown people.

Don't buy into the right wing framing on this. If this were really about overturning birthright citizenship practically all of us would become "illegal."

It’s a constitutional amendment asshole.

My guess is, he's never thought about it until il douche brought it up

because if they thought that certain immigrants' children born in the USA didn't get birthright citizenship, then they would have immediately started working out how and when to naturalize them. But they didn't; they just did naturalization for those born outside.

Sadly, that might not stop this Supreme Court.

... and while it was originally about protecting ex-slaves, there was a Supreme Court test case about a Chinese-American back in the era of the Chinese Exclusion Act.

Just an aside -- Wouldn't the Republicans like to repeal the rest of the 14th while they are at it?