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ColinC

(10,959 posts)
26. I might be a tad closer to this issue than many...
Wed Nov 27, 2024, 07:46 AM
Nov 27

In 2012 I was an Obama field organizer in Dearborn Michigan. The Arab American community took me in as one of theirs -largely because I was a Democrat. All I know at this point is that the vast majority of that community is hurting enormously due to the loss of loved ones on a regular basis. My friend there warned me for weeks that Harris would lose Michigan and that the vast majority of polls were underestimating the enormity of the anger in Dearborn. I didnt believe him. People (myself included) just assumed they would go 70-80% for the Democrat like usual. That didn't happen. Dearborn is a place where most people either know somebody directly who has been killed in the conflict, or knows somebody who does.


When Trump took Dearborn, it should be a wake up call to all Democrats that our policy of providing Arms to Israel should be enormously re evaluated. For me, an organizer who saw these people give everything they had to elect Democrats and Obama, it was like a knife to my heart to see everything unfold as it has.

I dont know that calling pager bombs, and the increased displacement from 100,000 to 900,000 people in Lebanon 2 months before an election where Lebanese Americans will be crucial in deciding a major swing state is entirely"blaming Israel for the escalation," but I might be hard pressed not to be, given those attacks prior to that point from Israel seemed unprecedented, and the timing seems suspect.

I always do appreciate you, MarineCombatEngineer, and I appreciate your respect enormously. I try to stay out of these types of discussions these days because the emotional pain can tend to get the better of me. I also disagree with your opinion but respect you enormously.



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Courtesy of Bibi's electioneering ColinC Nov 26 #1
I don't understand your comment . . . Richard D Nov 26 #2
The timing suggests that Lebanon was attacked for little more than to influence the US election ColinC Nov 26 #4
Maybe you've not paid attention? Richard D Nov 26 #5
Israel likely fired the first shots into Lebanon after 10/7 -and if not, the rocket fire was fairly measured both ways ColinC Nov 26 #6
The ding dongs that switched their votes to MFer maxsolomon Nov 26 #7
Like the Lebanese Americans in Dearborn MI? ColinC Nov 26 #8
Yeah, there's that. maxsolomon Nov 26 #13
Check the numbers DownriverDem Nov 26 #20
And you say likely based on what? Richard D Nov 26 #12
The timing was Israel setting off the pagers on 17 September 2024. muriel_volestrangler Nov 26 #18
+10,000 ColinC Nov 26 #23
What utter BS. MarineCombatEngineer Nov 26 #11
I'm referring specifically tobthe rocket attacks and escalation from ColinC Nov 26 #14
Again, what utter BS. MarineCombatEngineer Nov 26 #15
I disagree completely. ColinC Nov 26 #16
I disagree with the whole blaming of Israel for the escalation against Hizbollah, MarineCombatEngineer Nov 26 #17
I might be a tad closer to this issue than many... ColinC Nov 27 #26
Thank you for the kind reply, it's truly appreciated. MarineCombatEngineer Nov 27 #27
What? Hezbollah has been firing rockets into Israel since 10/8 elias7 Nov 26 #21
People are siding with jihadists . . . Richard D Nov 26 #24
"...how attacking Lebanon would influence the US election" ColinC Nov 27 #25
Now that the election is over DownriverDem Nov 26 #19
Yeah thats what im saying. ColinC Nov 26 #22
So... maxsolomon Nov 26 #3
BREAKING: Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has announced a US-brokered cease-fire agreement with Hezbollah, set riversedge Nov 26 #9
"Uh oh, Bebe not mentioning Trump is going make baby Donald really cranky." riversedge Nov 26 #10
Wait, but Thomas Friedman says.... coffeenap Nov 27 #28
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