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Dem_in_Nebr.

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Fri Jul 10, 2026, 10:09 AM Yesterday

He Predicted America's Crisis Sixteen Years Ago, to the Year. His Database Says It Ends Three Ways. [View all]

I found this on Substack. it's a bit of a long read but its worth it. Turchin used mathematical models developed for animal populations and applied it to 10,000 years of human civilizations. His results mimic what we are facing today,


You probably watched the fireworks. Two hundred and fifty years of the American experiment deserves fireworks, and for a few hours over the holiday weekend the sky looked the way it is supposed to look. But you saw the other pictures too, because everyone did. Roughly four hundred men in khakis and white masks marched through Washington to a drumbeat on the nation’s birthday, carrying flags most Americans thought belonged to museums. The next morning in Memphis, National Guard troops on domestic deployment killed a man in the early hours. And in the days before the holiday, the fight over voting rules froze the House of Representatives so completely that the Speaker gave up and sent everyone home early.

If you are like most people I hear from, you carry a question now that you don’t say out loud at dinner, because saying it feels like betraying something. The question is: how does this end?

I want to introduce you to a man who answered that question in writing, in one of the world’s most respected scientific journals, sixteen years ago. Not with opinion. With mathematics. And I want you to hear both halves of his answer, because the second half is the reason I’m writing this at all.

Peter Turchin was born in 1957 in a closed Soviet science city, the son of a dissident computer scientist. He was twenty years old and studying biology at Moscow State University when the government exiled his family from the Soviet Union for his father’s activism. He rebuilt his life in America, took a doctorate in zoology, and spent two decades doing something that had nothing to do with politics: building mathematical models of animal populations. Beetle outbreaks. Lemming crashes. The booms and busts of living systems, captured in equations that actually worked.


https://stbadhon.substack.com/p/a-scientist-fed-10000-years-of-history
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Read the whole piece, y'all. K&R ms liberty Yesterday #1
You just gave me my first K&R! Dem_in_Nebr. Yesterday #2
K&R again! erronis Yesterday #9
Dayum! GPV Yesterday #3
Damn thats a good read. N/t gay texan Yesterday #4
Kick for later Unwind Your Mind Yesterday #5
Highly Recommended La Coliniere Yesterday #6
I KNEW My Allusions to 1789 Were More Truth Than.... ColoringFool Yesterday #7
You can just use pen and paper this time BaronChocula Yesterday #37
Ha! I very much dislike knitting! Clickety-click, clickety-click.......! ColoringFool 22 hrs ago #62
Random related thought BaronChocula 20 hrs ago #75
I ain't no Spring chicken! ColoringFool 16 hrs ago #80
Excusez-moi moi, mais. . . Mme. Defarge 21 hrs ago #68
Turchin's article needs to be read by everyone. KS Toronado Yesterday #8
Excellent analysis dlk Yesterday #10
Bookmarked and Recommended CoopersDad Yesterday #11
Unfortunately angrychair Yesterday #12
"The greatest enemy of the United States, as far as both sides of Congress are concerned, is progressives." LymphocyteLover Yesterday #16
Congress has become a path to unlimited wealth angrychair Yesterday #20
who is "they" that will do anything to stop them? LymphocyteLover 7 hrs ago #83
Not true relogic Yesterday #24
Well said! DemocracyForever Yesterday #28
Democrats are a diverse coalition party and progressives are an important part of that coalition but are not the base LymphocyteLover 7 hrs ago #81
What? yardwork 20 hrs ago #73
The article is very interesting Klondike Kat Yesterday #13
Ok then dweller Yesterday #14
Ditto! Alice B. Yesterday #15
Sooo...like Asimov's Psychohistory progressoid Yesterday #17
are there any fictional characters more relevant to 2026 usa rampartd Yesterday #32
The Mule was sterile, unfortunately our mule is/was not... Wounded Bear Yesterday #39
another asimov concept is the laws of robotics rampartd Yesterday #52
Yes --- Monkey D Luffy Captain of the Straw Hat Pirates in One Piece JT45242 Yesterday #50
i'll have to find that one. rampartd Yesterday #51
Well worth everyone's time to read... Silver Gaia Yesterday #18
Brilliant! GiqueCee Yesterday #19
He's talking about Roosevelt's New Deal ... that's the third ending FakeNoose Yesterday #21
Highly recommended democrank Yesterday #22
Here's an important paragraph Bobstandard Yesterday #23
But that makes 195% of societies' outcomes Farmer-Rick 21 hrs ago #69
Kick ybbor Yesterday #25
I have always loved reading history. Snackshack Yesterday #26
A must-read article. Talitha Yesterday #27
Bush vs Gore started this nightmare DemocracyForever Yesterday #29
I could not agree more. hamsterjill Yesterday #54
Exactly! And then, within no time at all, came the Homeland Security Bill... BComplex 22 hrs ago #64
There's a wild card this time, and that's generative AI and the surveillance AND DISTRACTIONS it offers. highplainsdem Yesterday #30
The writer and historian Morris Berman... keep_left Yesterday #31
Great article jmbar2 Yesterday #33
Thank you. This is consistent with a book I've been meaning to read, but is still far back in my schedule... NNadir Yesterday #34
Thank you for this post Dem_in_Nebr., and the link to Substack. I also subscibed. c-rational Yesterday #35
Bookmarking to read later. Thank you for sharing this - looks interesting. yellow dahlia Yesterday #36
The one difference is technology and the world economy Buckeyeblue Yesterday #38
Yes, and the impact of AI will be devastating in an Oligarchy that doesn't care if the masses suffer. Doodley 17 hrs ago #77
Wow, read the entire link. I see the bottom line as the powerful's continued use of the "Divide And Conquer" method. Exp Yesterday #40
who do you think is doing the organizing? NJCher Yesterday #47
I agree with you:: Exp Yesterday #48
Excellent article Wild blueberry Yesterday #41
Way worth reading. Another Jackalope Yesterday #42
Hhmm...wonder if the writer meant 1860, not 1870. mwmisses4289 Yesterday #43
The dates were a little odd, I agree. yardwork 7 hrs ago #82
As a person who did computer modelling of animals while in myPhD program 31j20b3 Yesterday #44
Cliodynamics has done better while I wasn't watching 4dog 22 hrs ago #65
There is no scientific database that can predict history JCMach1 Yesterday #45
Generations by Strauss and Howe Deminpenn Yesterday #46
I've been collecting these cyclical interpreters. Have a whole file of them. NJCher Yesterday #49
Agreed, this fits very closely with "The Fourth Turning" LR3 23 hrs ago #57
The Fourth Turning is actually by at least one of "Generations" authors Deminpenn 22 hrs ago #63
Which is historiography and not scientific at all... JCMach1 6 hrs ago #84
A great read revealing math based confirmation B.See Yesterday #53
"May you live in interesting times." is all the heads up I needed. OC375 Yesterday #55
We Missed An Off Ramp in 2008 modrepub 23 hrs ago #56
Bookmarked for later read. GoodRaisin 23 hrs ago #58
Read, kick, Rec malaise 23 hrs ago #59
K&R. Excellent article... renordgren 23 hrs ago #60
Sheesh! FINALLY got to this. calimary 23 hrs ago #61
I did, too, 21 years ago and I posted it on DU. Kid Berwyn 21 hrs ago #66
We need the return of the FDR era Clouds Passing 21 hrs ago #67
🤔 who was the President some thought would be the next FDR ? dweller 20 hrs ago #70
Biden's policies were the closest to FDR. yardwork 20 hrs ago #74
FORMIDABLE! Mme. Defarge 20 hrs ago #71
One of the best things I've read in a long time. yardwork 20 hrs ago #72
KNR and bookmarking. niyad 18 hrs ago #76
K&R red dog 1 17 hrs ago #78
Karl Marx predicted this in 1867. BlueTsunami2018 17 hrs ago #79
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