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Cirsium

(4,256 posts)
88. Surrendering in advance
Thu Jul 2, 2026, 03:44 PM
1 hr ago

No state is permanently purple or even red. Basing strategy on what already exists means we will never achieve anything different. It amounts to the support and the promotion of the prevailing conditions masquerading as mere neutral observation of the prevailing conditions.

Excerpt from a speech to the young people of South Africa on their Day of Affirmation in 1966 by Robert F. Kennedy Jr.:

Few are willing to brave the disapproval of their fellows, the censure of their colleagues, the wrath of their society. Moral courage is a rarer commodity than bravery in battle or great intelligence. Yet it is the one essential, vital quality for those who seek to change a world that yields most painfully to change. And I believe that in this generation those with the courage to enter the moral conflict will find themselves with companions in every corner of the globe.

For the fortunate among us, there is the temptation to follow the easy and familiar paths of personal ambition and financial success so grandly spread before those who enjoy the privilege of education. But that is not the road history has marked out for us. Like it or not, we live in times of danger and uncertainty. But they are also more open to the creative energy of men than any other time in history. All of us will ultimately be judged, and as the years pass we will surely judge ourselves on the effort we have contributed to building a new world society and the extent to which our ideals and goals have shaped that event.

The future does not belong to those who are content with today, apathetic toward common problems and their fellow man alike, timid and fearful in the face of new ideas and bold projects. Rather it will belong to those who can blend vision, reason and courage in a personal commitment to the ideals and great enterprises of American society. Our future may lie beyond our vision, but it is not completely beyond our control. It is the shaping impulse of America that neither fate nor nature nor the irresistible tides of history, but the work of our own hands, matched to reason and principle, that will determine our destiny. There is pride in that, even arrogance, but there is also experience and truth. In any event, it is the only way we can live.

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Please let the door hit you on your way out. Blue Owl 6 hrs ago #1
He is disloyal to the United States. Dawson Leery 6 hrs ago #2
Hardly. ColoringFool 3 hrs ago #72
Hell, TSF isn't helping Israel to much bluestarone 6 hrs ago #3
"Speaking with Fox News host Sean Hannity .... " Botany 6 hrs ago #4
I don't know of any Democrat in Congress who is against Israel defending itself or existing. everyonematters 6 hrs ago #5
It's a clever framing, isn't it? AloeVera 6 hrs ago #10
I'm sure he'd see a fund cut as part of Israel's right, too! mymomwasright 5 hrs ago #19
Country over party is laudable. AloeVera 6 hrs ago #6
That would be one less centrist in the party. Emile 6 hrs ago #7
He is not a centrist WSHazel 6 hrs ago #13
He lied to get into office. He ran as Emile 5 hrs ago #18
IMHO it was the stroke. The evidence is overwhelming that post-stroke Fetterman is profoundly different at multiple Celerity 3 hrs ago #60
LCV scorecard: Fetterman 84% lifetime, 80% 2025: McCormick - total zero across the board RandomNumbers 5 hrs ago #26
Senator John Fetterman votes with the Democratic party approximately 91% to 93% of the time. Emile 5 hrs ago #31
PA is a purple state. I'll take a centrist D over a reich-wing R ANY FUCKING DAY. Unlike RandomNumbers 4 hrs ago #36
If the voters in Pennsylvania wanted a centrist, Emile 4 hrs ago #39
They wanted someone who they thought stood up for actual people, AND who supported women's rights RandomNumbers 4 hrs ago #48
You can't change history. He won his seat Emile 4 hrs ago #53
You are right that Fetterman never ran as anti AIPAC AZProgressive 3 hrs ago #73
BLUE 7 OUT OF LAST 10. ColoringFool 3 hrs ago #75
Surrendering in advance Cirsium 1 hr ago #88
I'll bet that changes to ZERO percent once he switches LuvLoogie 3 hrs ago #61
That's very possible. Emile 3 hrs ago #62
John Fetterman casts the deciding vote against limiting Trump's war in Iran Celerity 3 hrs ago #69
Fetterman is not a "centrist""... he's a fuckimg Cha 35 min ago #89
Go ahead and leave, dickhead. Aristus 6 hrs ago #8
"Going to" leave the party? 3_Limes 6 hrs ago #9
Bingo ! we have a winner. republianmushroom 5 hrs ago #25
He votes with Dems more than 90% of the time and if we win the Senate in midterms MadameButterfly 3 hrs ago #82
He's going to leave the Party whatever happens... kentuck 6 hrs ago #11
Okay by me. He's not much of a Democrat anyway. sinkingfeeling 6 hrs ago #12
He is itching for an excuse to orangecrush 6 hrs ago #14
Hasn't needed an excuse yet unweird 4 hrs ago #51
Good! ABC123Easy 6 hrs ago #15
Hasn't he already (in all but "name") anyway? Enough of his blackmail. hlthe2b 5 hrs ago #16
Hey John! Israel and Netanyahu ARE NOT THE SAME THING! NT maxrandb 5 hrs ago #17
Agreed, but looking at the polls on their upcoming karynnj 5 hrs ago #30
There are many myths about Israel. AloeVera 3 hrs ago #68
The 10 seats were the projection of many polls karynnj 3 hrs ago #77
Don't let the door hit you on the way out. Or do, it doesn't mean shit to me Autumn 5 hrs ago #20
Israel is and will always be an ally of the US, but we don't have them give them weapons Wanderlust988 5 hrs ago #21
No Democrat has ever denied Israel's right to exist or to defend itself karynnj 5 hrs ago #22
Bye Bye Johnny! La Coliniere 5 hrs ago #23
This is why we need 5 Dems to win Senate races in order to gain control of the Senate BluenFLA 5 hrs ago #24
He ain't switching parties. Wiz Imp 4 hrs ago #43
see post 60 for some answers (the second part deals with Fetterman's obsession with Israel) Celerity 3 hrs ago #80
STROKE OUT M'FER - and this time finish the job. harumph 5 hrs ago #27
Does he think he could be a talking head on FOX in his shorts and sweatshirt? Bengus81 5 hrs ago #28
Can we be critical, John? Sneederbunk 5 hrs ago #29
The reality is, he already left the party.... He calls himself a Democrat, but he isn't one.... Strange dude... ashredux 5 hrs ago #32
Go ahead. Make my day. MadMike47 4 hrs ago #33
Israel does exist. It's "right" to is moot. maxsolomon 4 hrs ago #34
There is a New York Times best selling book AZProgressive 3 hrs ago #79
I doubt... GiqueCee 4 hrs ago #35
Not one Democrat questions MustLoveBeagles 4 hrs ago #37
What constitutes anti Israel: The Wizard 4 hrs ago #38
It's not anti-Israel, it's anti Netanyahu. Fla Dem 4 hrs ago #40
Exactly. Fetterman should listen to AMERICAN Jews Bluetus 4 hrs ago #44
Don't let the door hit you on the way out. Ritabert 4 hrs ago #41
Is that all it takes? Omnipresent 4 hrs ago #42
It was the stroke, it profoundly changed him at so many levels, plus he is being handled, see post 60 for more detail: Celerity 1 hr ago #87
Any excuse will do dlk 4 hrs ago #45
Yes it is MustLoveBeagles 3 hrs ago #70
No matter how it goes, Fetterman is a one-termer. Bluetus 4 hrs ago #46
Up for reelection in 2028. So who is going to run against him? Grins 4 hrs ago #47
"Defend itself" twodogsbarking 4 hrs ago #49
Bye! jrthin 4 hrs ago #50
His leaving the Democratic party would be an issue? Dave Id 4 hrs ago #52
Leaving the Senate? Becoming independent? Caucusing with the gop? Joining the gop? QueerDuck 4 hrs ago #54
So, he has NO CLUE what Israel's critics are really saying? William Seger 4 hrs ago #55
It is deliberate. RockRaven 3 hrs ago #78
Dont care quakerboy 4 hrs ago #56
Kick his ass out FHRRK1 4 hrs ago #57
So what! Donman 4 hrs ago #58
Smell ya later! Gaytano70 4 hrs ago #59
Those things have never been part of the Democratic party's platform, and aren't likely to be any time soon. LudwigPastorius 3 hrs ago #63
so which party in the Knesset will Fetterman join? DBoon 3 hrs ago #64
He can sit with Ben Givr and the other Ars Longa 3 hrs ago #71
He's already gone. SergeStorms 3 hrs ago #65
Maybe they can do it just long enough to get rid of him, then... TygrBright 3 hrs ago #66
Not surprised as he's always been a populace candidate. rogue emissary 3 hrs ago #67
Do you mean a populist candidate? Celerity 3 hrs ago #83
Yes, and voters have turned on Israel he'll follow the majority eventually. rogue emissary 2 hrs ago #85
I highly doubt he stops his OTT support of Israel. See post 60. Celerity 1 hr ago #86
Smells like a purity test to me. aocommunalpunch 3 hrs ago #74
I'm having difficulty feeling any sympathy for Fetterman. If I had a more charitable view than I actually do, PatrickforB 3 hrs ago #76
Being against Netanyahu's maniacal leadership is not anti-Israel. blm 3 hrs ago #81
There is ALWAYS one of these orthoclad 2 hrs ago #84
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