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AloeVera

(4,689 posts)
68. There are many myths about Israel.
Thu Jul 2, 2026, 01:41 PM
Yesterday

Thank you for this informative post.

One of the myths about Israel currently is that Netanyahu is a blip and the centrists/left-wing has a chance at ousting him. The reality is that right-wing nationalism, support for occupaton/annexation etc are now baked in to Israeli public opinion and have been for a while. This is Israel now and in the future.

Interesting that only 10 Knesset seats out of 160 are allotted for "Arabs" aka Palestinian Citizens of Israel as they prefer to be called. They represent 21% of Israel's population, yet get only 6% of Knesset seats. Doesn't seem very democratic to me.

It's funny to me that the fact "Arabs" are allowed to hold Knesset seats is touted as proof they have equal rights to Israeli Jews - one even is a Supreme Court judge!! - but their under-representation is of course never mentioned.

The other interesting thing is that the Arab parties are never invited the "party". No one, not the right-wing or even centre/left wants them in their coalition. Aside from what this says about how they view the "Arabs" it's certainly a further dilution of their political power, paltry as it already is.

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Please let the door hit you on your way out. Blue Owl Yesterday #1
He is disloyal to the United States. Dawson Leery Yesterday #2
Hardly. ColoringFool Yesterday #72
Hell, TSF isn't helping Israel to much bluestarone Yesterday #3
"Speaking with Fox News host Sean Hannity .... " Botany Yesterday #4
I don't know of any Democrat in Congress who is against Israel defending itself or existing. everyonematters Yesterday #5
It's a clever framing, isn't it? AloeVera Yesterday #10
I am not convinced that Biden could have stopped it karynnj 22 hrs ago #94
It's gonna stay that way too.. There doesn't seem to be a winning position for Democrats. LeftInTX 22 hrs ago #98
I'm not sure what position they could come together behind karynnj 22 hrs ago #99
Interesting choice of words. "Israel would never agree to it". AloeVera 18 hrs ago #106
The main part I was referring to was a two state solution karynnj 16 hrs ago #111
I'm sure he'd see a fund cut as part of Israel's right, too! mymomwasright Yesterday #19
Country over party is laudable. AloeVera Yesterday #6
That would be one less centrist in the party. Emile Yesterday #7
He is not a centrist WSHazel Yesterday #13
He lied to get into office. He ran as Emile Yesterday #18
IMHO it was the stroke. The evidence is overwhelming that post-stroke Fetterman is profoundly different at multiple Celerity Yesterday #60
LCV scorecard: Fetterman 84% lifetime, 80% 2025: McCormick - total zero across the board RandomNumbers Yesterday #26
Senator John Fetterman votes with the Democratic party approximately 91% to 93% of the time. Emile Yesterday #31
PA is a purple state. I'll take a centrist D over a reich-wing R ANY FUCKING DAY. Unlike RandomNumbers Yesterday #36
If the voters in Pennsylvania wanted a centrist, Emile Yesterday #39
They wanted someone who they thought stood up for actual people, AND who supported women's rights RandomNumbers Yesterday #48
You can't change history. He won his seat Emile Yesterday #53
You are right that Fetterman never ran as anti AIPAC AZProgressive Yesterday #73
Wow! I hadn't heard that about Conor Lamb before TVguyCards 22 hrs ago #96
BLUE 7 OUT OF LAST 10. ColoringFool Yesterday #75
Surrendering in advance Cirsium Yesterday #88
I'll bet that changes to ZERO percent once he switches LuvLoogie Yesterday #61
That's very possible. Emile Yesterday #62
John Fetterman casts the deciding vote against limiting Trump's war in Iran Celerity Yesterday #69
Of course he would be the deciding AGAINST a Democratic position. LuvLoogie 20 hrs ago #104
Fetterman is not a "centrist""... he's a fuckimg Cha 23 hrs ago #89
That too! Emile 23 hrs ago #90
Go ahead and leave, dickhead. Aristus Yesterday #8
"Going to" leave the party? 3_Limes Yesterday #9
Bingo ! we have a winner. republianmushroom Yesterday #25
He votes with Dems more than 90% of the time and if we win the Senate in midterms MadameButterfly Yesterday #82
He's going to leave the Party whatever happens... kentuck Yesterday #11
Okay by me. He's not much of a Democrat anyway. sinkingfeeling Yesterday #12
He is itching for an excuse to orangecrush Yesterday #14
Hasn't needed an excuse yet unweird Yesterday #51
Good! ABC123Easy Yesterday #15
Hasn't he already (in all but "name") anyway? Enough of his blackmail. hlthe2b Yesterday #16
Hey John! Israel and Netanyahu ARE NOT THE SAME THING! NT maxrandb Yesterday #17
Agreed, but looking at the polls on their upcoming karynnj Yesterday #30
There are many myths about Israel. AloeVera Yesterday #68
The 10 seats were the projection of many polls karynnj Yesterday #77
Don't let the door hit you on the way out. Or do, it doesn't mean shit to me Autumn Yesterday #20
Israel is and will always be an ally of the US, but we don't have them give them weapons Wanderlust988 Yesterday #21
No Democrat has ever denied Israel's right to exist or to defend itself karynnj Yesterday #22
Bye Bye Johnny! La Coliniere Yesterday #23
This is why we need 5 Dems to win Senate races in order to gain control of the Senate BluenFLA Yesterday #24
He ain't switching parties. Wiz Imp Yesterday #43
see post 60 for some answers (the second part deals with Fetterman's obsession with Israel) Celerity Yesterday #80
STROKE OUT M'FER - and this time finish the job. harumph Yesterday #27
Does he think he could be a talking head on FOX in his shorts and sweatshirt? Bengus81 Yesterday #28
Can we be critical, John? Sneederbunk Yesterday #29
The reality is, he already left the party.... He calls himself a Democrat, but he isn't one.... Strange dude... ashredux Yesterday #32
Go ahead. Make my day. MadMike47 Yesterday #33
Israel does exist. It's "right" to is moot. maxsolomon Yesterday #34
There is a New York Times best selling book AZProgressive Yesterday #79
They are a minority. Also Jewish Voice for Peace is a very loud minority. LeftInTX 22 hrs ago #100
I doubt... GiqueCee Yesterday #35
Not one Democrat questions MustLoveBeagles Yesterday #37
What constitutes anti Israel: The Wizard Yesterday #38
It's not anti-Israel, it's anti Netanyahu. Fla Dem Yesterday #40
Exactly. Fetterman should listen to AMERICAN Jews Bluetus Yesterday #44
Don't let the door hit you on the way out. Ritabert Yesterday #41
Is that all it takes? Omnipresent Yesterday #42
It was the stroke, it profoundly changed him at so many levels, plus he is being handled, see post 60 for more detail: Celerity Yesterday #87
Any excuse will do dlk Yesterday #45
Yes it is MustLoveBeagles Yesterday #70
No matter how it goes, Fetterman is a one-termer. Bluetus Yesterday #46
Up for reelection in 2028. So who is going to run against him? Grins Yesterday #47
"Defend itself" twodogsbarking Yesterday #49
Bye! jrthin Yesterday #50
His leaving the Democratic party would be an issue? Dave Id Yesterday #52
Leaving the Senate? Becoming independent? Caucusing with the gop? Joining the gop? QueerDuck Yesterday #54
So, he has NO CLUE what Israel's critics are really saying? William Seger Yesterday #55
It is deliberate. RockRaven Yesterday #78
He's deliberately misinterpreting it. Iggo 16 hrs ago #110
Dont care quakerboy Yesterday #56
Kick his ass out FHRRK1 Yesterday #57
So what! Donman Yesterday #58
Smell ya later! Gaytano70 Yesterday #59
Those things have never been part of the Democratic party's platform, and aren't likely to be any time soon. LudwigPastorius Yesterday #63
so which party in the Knesset will Fetterman join? DBoon Yesterday #64
He can sit with Ben Givr and the other Ars Longa Yesterday #71
He's already gone. SergeStorms Yesterday #65
Maybe they can do it just long enough to get rid of him, then... TygrBright Yesterday #66
Not surprised as he's always been a populace candidate. rogue emissary Yesterday #67
Do you mean a populist candidate? Celerity Yesterday #83
Yes, and voters have turned on Israel he'll follow the majority eventually. rogue emissary Yesterday #85
I highly doubt he stops his OTT support of Israel. See post 60. Celerity Yesterday #86
Smells like a purity test to me. aocommunalpunch Yesterday #74
I'm having difficulty feeling any sympathy for Fetterman. If I had a more charitable view than I actually do, PatrickforB Yesterday #76
Being against Netanyahu's maniacal leadership is not anti-Israel. blm Yesterday #81
There is ALWAYS one of these orthoclad Yesterday #84
Thought he already had. tavernier 23 hrs ago #91
He's got a permanent seat on the right wing propaganda machine. miyazaki 23 hrs ago #92
A better link to avoid "download our app" crap paywall TVguyCards 22 hrs ago #93
Well, fuck you, Fetterman. This is the United States Of America, not the Israeli States Of America. Initech 22 hrs ago #95
Some might called this purity politics. David__77 22 hrs ago #97
He should move there already IbogaProject 22 hrs ago #101
Good riddance VanceFan 22 hrs ago #102
Or he'll leave the party for some other reason. Iggo 21 hrs ago #103
Hmmmm Timewas 20 hrs ago #105
Well, bye! Initech 18 hrs ago #107
"Gimme attention! Gimme! Gimme! Wannattention!" struggle4progress 17 hrs ago #108
How will we know? n/t BlueSpot 17 hrs ago #109
He'll get voted out dave99 7 hrs ago #112
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