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73. Pentagon Threatened the Pope After He Criticized Trump
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 08:07 PM
1 hr ago

It was so bad that Pope Leo changed his plans to travel to the U.S.

This thin-skinned mafia administration is insane.
newrepublic.com/post/208820/...

Mrs. Betty Bowers (@mrsbettybowers.bsky.social) 2026-04-08T22:50:43.514Z

https://newrepublic.com/post/208820/pentagon-threatened-pope-criticized-donald-trump

Relations between the U.S. and the Catholic Church have not been the same since January, when senior U.S. defense officials shared an abrasive message with a Vatican official.

Days after Pope Leo XIV delivered his State of the World speech, Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Elbridge Colby summoned Cardinal Christophe Pierre, the Vatican’s U.S. representative, to a closed-door Pentagon meeting for a bitter lecture.

“The United States,” Colby said, according to a blistering new report by The Free Press, “has the military power to do whatever it wants in the world. The Catholic Church had better take its side.”

One U.S. official present at the meeting brought up the Avignon papacy, a period in the 14th century in which the French monarchy bent the Catholic Church into submission, ordering an attack on Pope Boniface VIII that led to his downfall and subsequent death and forcing the papacy to relocate from Rome to Avignon, a region inside France......

The Vatican was so alarmed by the Pentagon’s warning that Pope Leo cancelled his plans to visit the U.S. later in the year, reported Hale, who noted that “many in the Vatican saw the Pentagon’s reference to an Avignon papacy as a threat to use military force against the Holy See.”

Tensions had not been mended by February, when the Holy See rejected the White House’s invitation to host Pope Leo—the religious order’s first U.S.-born pontiff—for America’s 250th anniversary in July. Instead, the Catholic leader has arranged to visit a very different locale on July 4: Lampedusa, a tiny island between Tunisia and Sicily where North African immigrants wash ashore by the thousands

Hegseth is a religious nut case who believes that G-d is supporting trump's war and military actions. I note that Hegseth excluded Catholics from Good Friday religious events. See https://www.democraticunderground.com/100221145488 If nothing else, Hegseth's actions/statements and the attack on the Pope violate the basic fundamental precepts of the separation of church and state.

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WTF. mercuryblues 4 hrs ago #1
Well there goes Italy malaise 4 hrs ago #6
And all the Catholics of the world BonnieJW 2 hrs ago #45
To the right wing Evangelicals, the pope is the devil incarnate and Catholicism is an abomination. flashman13 2 hrs ago #55
Who says we'd even want to go to such an - um - "event"? calimary 2 hrs ago #70
You must have grown up in a different era than I did. Ms. Toad 1 hr ago #76
I dated a Jewish girl in high school and went to synagogue with her family a couple of times. flashman13 1 hr ago #85
The rest of us were all friendly and had a good time at each other's churches. Ms. Toad 33 min ago #92
I guess the point is that it was made clear they wren't invited. I'm no expert, but that doesn't sound very christian. flashman13 1 hr ago #84
They're in league with the antiChrist B.See 45 min ago #91
So is Trump going to bomb the Vatican? SunSeeker 4 hrs ago #2
It's definitely an implied threat. ananda 3 hrs ago #35
And, does he want to move the seat of the papacy to the White House? ananda 3 hrs ago #38
Wonder what Catholic convert JD Vance thinks of all that... SunSeeker 7 min ago #93
don't give him any ideas plz vapor2 2 hrs ago #59
I hope the fucking Catholics that voted for the tsf BlueKota 4 hrs ago #3
Those Catholics hate their Pope. Other Catholics love their Pope. mucifer 4 hrs ago #5
But do they love Whiskey Pete going all "30 Years War" at the Pentagon? paleotn 4 hrs ago #14
Many of them like Whiskey Pete BlueKota 3 hrs ago #37
Exactly! ybbor 3 hrs ago #25
I really admire this Pope. BlueKota 3 hrs ago #32
Not raised Catholic, but I'm definitely impressed with Leo. ShazzieB 2 hrs ago #49
I was raised Catholic too. Dulcinea 1 hr ago #77
I agree. These two most recent Popes to me represent BlueKota 1 hr ago #82
Trumpist Conservative Catholics will never hear about this incident. maxsolomon 4 hrs ago #8
Not a chance. I'd have probably never heard of it without DU underpants 3 hrs ago #33
Yah, my whole damn family voted for the orange piece of shit BECAUSE OF HIS ABORTION STANCE!!!!!! a kennedy 3 hrs ago #27
yeppers - got some friends like that rurallib 3 hrs ago #29
It's so ironic how many fell for his anti-abortion act. ShazzieB 2 hrs ago #51
I wonder how many he paid for over the years. n/t SheilaAnn 2 hrs ago #63
Right? ShazzieB 2 hrs ago #67
Do they know how many abortions OhioBack2Blue 2 hrs ago #66
I gotcha beat, I think... slightlv 2 hrs ago #71
I'm quite sure Trump doesn't really give 2 hoots about abortion... 3catwoman3 49 min ago #90
TSF and crew had better get ready for some smiting. Sneederbunk 4 hrs ago #4
Guess they really don't like Leo's public statements wnylib 4 hrs ago #7
This was January so they must really be pissed with his comments malaise 4 hrs ago #9
Thats probably why hes been making them, Chicago Pope cares more about the Cubs than he does their threats lol. Volaris 2 hrs ago #52
Agree malaise 2 hrs ago #56
I can't help but being afraid for his safety MustLoveBeagles 3 hrs ago #36
Dear Goddess, these people are beyond deranged and dangerous. niyad 4 hrs ago #10
I just caught the tail end of her segment before the break..what's going on? I need to read up on the Avignon Papacy Deuxcents 4 hrs ago #11
need to read up on the Avignon Papacy malaise 4 hrs ago #15
Omg what a manipulative bunch of degenerates. Passages 4 hrs ago #12
Nobody expects 3825-87867 4 hrs ago #13
There's an almost full bingo card of pissed off religious groups that tsf is about to complete. rubbersole 4 hrs ago #16
Colby is NOT . . . AverageOldGuy 4 hrs ago #17
If only there were some super secret Vatican police force PuraVidaDreamin 4 hrs ago #18
The church has had or does have secret people who can take care of a situation that you're alluding to. Trueblue1968 1 hr ago #86
The Avignon Papacy AverageOldGuy 4 hrs ago #19
Thanks..got to reading this history, too. I'm wondering just why the pentagon is bringing this up now Deuxcents 3 hrs ago #21
Thank you AverageOldGuy malaise 3 hrs ago #22
Thanks MustLoveBeagles 3 hrs ago #41
And now: Recently-converted Catholic JD Vance says he will "look into the report" AverageOldGuy 3 hrs ago #20
Well, this just answered my question..thanks Deuxcents 3 hrs ago #23
He has a pre-campaign book out. It has a church on the cover. underpants 2 hrs ago #47
A church he had never even been in, much less attended. niyad 2 hrs ago #62
He looks like a young Jonathan Winters. llmart 1 hr ago #74
How long until VD Jance renounces Catholicism & goes full fundie? Dulcinea 1 hr ago #83
Makes sense to me... littlemissmartypants 3 hrs ago #24
Going to war with the Pope. Irish_Dem 3 hrs ago #26
Steve Bannon's wet dream no_hypocrisy 3 hrs ago #28
They had a "fourteenth-century weapon" handy? underpants 3 hrs ago #30
Thanks for the info MustLoveBeagles 3 hrs ago #43
I think it's long past due to excommunicate many of these right-wing fascist Catholics in America. Crowman2009 3 hrs ago #31
Like that will scare him. Bob doesn't strike me as the type to suffer fools. He also strikes me as the type Scrivener7 3 hrs ago #34
The forces of darkness have thrown down the gauntlet. patphil 3 hrs ago #39
Jeezus. Impeach him! Joinfortmill 3 hrs ago #40
Well, that's some crazy shit right there. MerryBlooms 3 hrs ago #42
Say what? Cirsium 2 hrs ago #44
Welp, for those who thought this administration left the rails and went full wackaloon in the last few weeks, Emrys 2 hrs ago #46
Yup. God help us all!! blue-wave 2 hrs ago #50
I mean, would you look at that upholstery: Emrys 2 hrs ago #58
Jay Dee would blue-wave 1 hr ago #72
How many American Cardinals blue-wave 2 hrs ago #48
I'm confident there will be not a word of this on EWTN DBoon 2 hrs ago #53
The Avignon Papacy could be second pope Buzz cook 2 hrs ago #54
Well, it's high time the Antipope put in an appearance Emrys 2 hrs ago #65
Kick! red dog 1 2 hrs ago #57
Didn't the Pope snub Vance on his last visit? vapor2 2 hrs ago #60
Yes malaise 2 hrs ago #64
So now Trump is going to bomb the Vatican? DFW 2 hrs ago #61
Another link malaise 1 hr ago #79
To match the elbow-bending tendencies of Pete Hegseth, Mblaze 2 hrs ago #68
They are all drunk on power. Figarosmom 2 hrs ago #69
Pentagon Threatened the Pope After He Criticized Trump LetMyPeopleVote 1 hr ago #73
Good link malaise 1 hr ago #75
Remember when Trump dressed up as the Pope? delisen 1 hr ago #78
THIS malaise 1 hr ago #80
Well, I thought they were all devout Christians.....nope it's all cosplay. spanone 1 hr ago #81
The best news is that the pope malaise 1 hr ago #87
Six of the current Nine Supreme Court Justices are Catholic. mackdaddy 1 hr ago #88
Omg BlueWaveNeverEnd 55 min ago #89
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