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lees1975

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86. I just love the excuses that come out here whenever Democratic leadership is asked to display courage, take a risk and

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do something that shows some kind of united front against a major injustice that a renegade President is perpetrating.

I did not vote for people to go to Congress or to the state legislature to sit on their hands, plan and prep for their next election and fill a seat in a safe, predictable way. I expect them to represent my interests and the interests of those who elected them. And I have seen how this government works, and how Republicans have thwarted the desires of Presidents Clinton, Obama and Biden by using their minority status tools.

We've got to decide here if Trump really is a threat to American Democracy, and if he is, to do something about it. And that doesn't mean nest feathering campaign fundraising banquets and trips while this war crisis is going on. The Democrats are not actually going to win the mid-terms, the Republicans are going to lose it. My expectations here are high and I won't let politicians hide behing the "sorry, can't do anything, we are the minority" bullshit any longer. Do something to show you also believe, as I do, that Trump is an existential threat to Democracy.

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In light of Trump's insane rhetoric and demented rant, where are the Democrats who will stand up and stop him? [View all] lees1975 Yesterday OP

Hey Come On; they are working on a strongly worded letter, but it must be cleared by Democratic pollsters first! Chasstev365 Yesterday #1

Oh just stop with this tired meme mcar Yesterday #93

Thank you. evolves Yesterday #119

It's tough love and accurate Eddie Haskell 60 Yesterday #136

I disagree that it's "tough love" and it's not accurate mcar Yesterday #207

why people still use MSM? Eddie Haskell 60 Yesterday #243

Oh just stop complaining about it Disaffected Yesterday #161

Lol! 😆 Dave Bowman Yesterday #192

Passionate strongly-worded rallies throughout the land did not result in grassroots political revolution as promised. betsuni Yesterday #215

And where TF are YOU? Trueblue Texan Yesterday #218

Please stop! agingdem Yesterday #156

How would Dems stop him? I'm not sure that's possible. 3_Limes Yesterday #2

So say and do nothing? Chasstev365 Yesterday #4

And that would accomplish what, exactly? Wiz Imp Yesterday #7

I refuse to be a sheep! Chasstev365 Yesterday #10

Huh? Wiz Imp Yesterday #18

Your answer is to sit and do nothing. Huh? Chasstev365 Yesterday #19

Wrong. But Your answer is to do something performative that accomplishes nothiing Wiz Imp Yesterday #27

Isn't everything Trump does performative and it's been effective with the uninformed? Chasstev365 Yesterday #41

Right!? How many influential people affiliated with the administration do nothing of substance? ck4829 Yesterday #52

And you think those same people are going to be impressed by a Democratic press conference? Wiz Imp Yesterday #60

Trump is not simply "performative" - he's got ICE terrifying this country TBF Yesterday #248

That is a weak H2O Man Yesterday #265

So, what exactly are YOU doing, Chief? TBF Yesterday #28

I know I called my Republican Senators yesterday and crickets... Hope22 Yesterday #159

Let us know H2O Man Yesterday #266

How did Mitch McConnell so effectively block Obama and Biden from 80% of what they wanted. lees1975 Yesterday #22

He didn't. Wiz Imp Yesterday #29

Significant legislation blocked by Republicans when Dems had a majority. lees1975 Yesterday #216

Try again. Only one of your claims is partially true Wiz Imp Yesterday #242

Well done! H2O Man Yesterday #267

A voice against the insanity. That's the job of the opposition party. Scrivener7 Yesterday #126

RFN! The head Democrats should be giving an Urgent Address to the Nation Ars Longa Yesterday #49

This. Thank you. Scrivener7 Yesterday #129

This would do something. Kid Berwyn Yesterday #167

People here would sneer mcar Yesterday #95

I feel like they are working sagetea Yesterday #157

I was told Garland was working in the shadows too. He wasn't. Scrivener7 Yesterday #196

And yet we still have not achieved universal healthcare when we held House, and 60-40 Senate in 2009 (briefly) Moostache Yesterday #102

it's much easier to block progress than build something good LymphocyteLover Yesterday #127

This is my question, too. -misanthroptimist Yesterday #200

What Greg_In_SF Yesterday #3

Stop their fund raising nest feathering, get together as a group and call this out. lees1975 Yesterday #6

And what exactly would that accomplish? It would stop nothing. Wiz Imp Yesterday #11

Only Republicans can stop the President? ck4829 Yesterday #20

Only for the first 2 years SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #163

It seems a group here has become wedded to that Scrivener7 Yesterday #133

And you could say the same thing about people insisting Democrats are always doing nothing EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #183

So they should... give a speech? EarlG Yesterday #170

Seems delulu if I'm being honest. BannonsLiver Yesterday #176

I suppose it would make people like the original poster happy, at least LymphocyteLover Yesterday #130

So, tell us how they should accomplish that. MineralMan Yesterday #5

If I want to read right-wing drivel, TBF Yesterday #8

Bravo!!!! Wiz Imp Yesterday #15

And when Democrats had the majority under Obama and Biden lees1975 Yesterday #16

🎯 Chasstev365 Yesterday #21

Get on the phone & call Congress right fucking now - TBF Yesterday #23

He didn't say anything about blaming Democrats Eddie Haskell 60 Yesterday #144

Any suggestion that Democrats should act like a true Scrivener7 Yesterday #199

I really hope we can criticize ourselves moving forward Eddie Haskell 60 Yesterday #206

That's not what I said - but nice try, sport. TBF Yesterday #250

No they didn't. Wiz Imp Yesterday #32

Yes they did. I don't remember the exact count lees1975 Yesterday #51

And how many Trump bills have passed the Senate? Wiz Imp Yesterday #57

One big beautiful bill lees1975 Yesterday #69

Zero Democrats voted for the One Big Beautiful Bill Wiz Imp Yesterday #79

Thank you. betsuni Yesterday #96

When reality doesn't fit the narrative, just spread lies about Democrats... tritsofme Yesterday #124

Obama had a filibuster proof majority in the senate from September 24, 2009 to Feb. 4, 2010. betsuni Yesterday #68

And there were only 72 working days during that period. n/t markpkessinger Yesterday #191

Wow! Wiz Imp Yesterday #117

The implication seems to be that Democrats should filibuster Trump's war EarlG Yesterday #182

Got it - you won't stop until you insult every democrat you can think of. n/t TBF Yesterday #77

80%? mcar Yesterday #98

Of course they don't. It's not remotely close to being true. Wiz Imp Yesterday #122

Republicans were able to block THE most important thing- SCOTUS nominations Eddie Haskell 60 Yesterday #147

That's only because Republicans had a Senate majority. tritsofme Yesterday #150

I'm more concerned about Republicans who have controlled SCOTUS for 75 years Eddie Haskell 60 Yesterday #155

Recess appointment? There was no recess. What are you even talking about? tritsofme Yesterday #169

Incredible, isn't it? Wiz Imp Yesterday #172

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The person who said Republicans blocked a Supreme court nominee while in Wiz Imp Yesterday #219

of course there was a recess Eddie Haskell 60 Yesterday #173

No, there wasn't, the Senate held pro-forma sessions to prevent recess appointments. tritsofme Yesterday #181

you're talking about some of his other recess apppointments Eddie Haskell 60 Yesterday #189

No, there was no serious path for Obama to make a recess appointment. tritsofme Yesterday #195

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Wow! Wiz Imp Yesterday #238

I can see who's lacking self awareness Eddie Haskell 60 Yesterday #239

Again, the person who believed the Republicans blocked a Supreme Court nominee when they were in the minority Wiz Imp Yesterday #244

You haven't elucidated anything that could have reasonably been "tried." You're just selling magic beans. tritsofme Yesterday #241

Wrong. nt mcar Yesterday #211

Republicans were in the MAJORITY when they blocked the Supreme Court nomination Wiz Imp Yesterday #164

Republicans controlled the senate, had the majority in 2015. betsuni Yesterday #166

IIRC, in the runup to the 2016 GE mcar Yesterday #212

Look it up. lees1975 Yesterday #193

You are absolutely right. Katinfl Yesterday #110

Seriously! Listen, I'm the last person to be on a "Let's look at Dems" rant Prairie Gates Yesterday #9

The REPUBLICAN, who is speaker of the House, sent them home. nt TBF Yesterday #25

They are free agents and can go where they want Prairie Gates Yesterday #34

You are telling me the dems can impeach the president while TBF Yesterday #81

What in the world Prairie Gates Yesterday #85

i think most of them are typing rhetorical questions on message boards Torchlight Yesterday #12

Social media interns must be overwhelmed leftstreet Yesterday #17

Senator Van Hollen is speaking on MSNOW calling him unhinged. spanone Yesterday #13

Well, that's effective. lees1975 Yesterday #38

You asked. spanone Yesterday #47

Yet you think a Democratic press conference is going to do what? Wiz Imp Yesterday #65

Swift goalposts Torchlight Yesterday #75

Senator Van Hollen is MY Senior Senator! BlueMTexpat Yesterday #118

The only thing they seem to be doing is complaining about Democrats Wiz Imp Yesterday #125

Exactly! BlueMTexpat Yesterday #264

What do you suggest they do? City Lights Yesterday #14

For one thing, Mark Kelly needs to re-iterate his "Illegal Orders" challenge on national television. lees1975 Yesterday #31

take a minute to look to see who is doing these things, and highlight them here. bigtree Yesterday #40

Well, I tried Just_Vote_Dem Yesterday #247

Those things would not "work" they are pure fantasy, you're pushing nonsense and faery tales tritsofme Yesterday #131

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Let's see here. Here are some ideas. And the "let's do nothing"-ists can go on by ck4829 Yesterday #26

And how does that stop Trump from dropping a nuke if he wants to do that? Wiz Imp Yesterday #35

If he does, he does? Trump dropping a nuke is not an excuse to not do the things I listed. ck4829 Yesterday #45

🙄 Wiz Imp Yesterday #55

When and how did we become so weak? ck4829 Yesterday #67

Hi... when and how did it happen? ck4829 Yesterday #162

as if we care about this more than them bigtree Yesterday #30

Quite a bit of power to thwart, judging from how well the Republicans have done it when they were the minority. lees1975 Yesterday #36

You seem to think Republicans accomplished a hell of a lot more in the minority Wiz Imp Yesterday #43

Look at their record. lees1975 Yesterday #71

Name one Republican priority that passed the Senate due to Democratic votes? Wiz Imp Yesterday #87

The first government shutdown. lees1975 Yesterday #197

Not republican priority legislation. Must pass legislation. Wiz Imp Yesterday #233

What blockade record? What legislation did they block? betsuni Yesterday #54

that fallacy is old and tired bigtree Yesterday #62

Uh huh. lees1975 Yesterday #72

and there it is bigtree Yesterday #84

They are totally uninformed and ignorant of basic facts. Wiz Imp Yesterday #89

This! mcar Yesterday #107

Democratic leaders could use their voices to lead an opposition. Kid Berwyn Yesterday #180

they are bigtree Yesterday #268

Yes, we could have had not one but two strong, qualified women mcar Yesterday #214

For those who think the Democratic Party should do nothing, explain to me why this would be wrong: Chasstev365 Yesterday #33

And as I stated earlier. A leadership press conference would accomplish NOTHING! Wiz Imp Yesterday #39

We'll have to totally disagree on this Chasstev365 Yesterday #42

Maybe not. But a leadership press conference with a court order stopping the President until Congress approves lees1975 Yesterday #46

That court order ITAL Yesterday #63

A stay is a win. lees1975 Yesterday #73

You misunderstand ITAL Yesterday #80

If the first court issued a stay, the supreme court sitting on it just extends the stay unless they remove it. lees1975 Yesterday #201

No court is going to issue such a stay to begin with. This frame is completely divorced from reality. tritsofme Yesterday #205

Actually if a court issues the order, it is enforceable until it is stayed. lees1975 Yesterday #217

Yes, if a court issued that order. That's the fantasy part. tritsofme Yesterday #226

It's incredibly depressing to read such nonsense fact-free fantasy on DU. Wiz Imp Yesterday #236

I didn't say a Federal Court would issue a stay ITAL Yesterday #245

For those who think the party should "stop this" act BannonsLiver Yesterday #177

They Rebl2 Yesterday #37

Stop with the bullshit. FIrst of all, Democrats aren't the majority party right now, because enough Americans thought lostincalifornia Yesterday #44

What is your idea of how DEMOCRATS can stop him? hay rick Yesterday #48

If we think real hard and click our heels 3 times. BannonsLiver Yesterday #178

This may get me banned DonCoquixote Yesterday #50

AIPAC keeps track. Kid Berwyn Yesterday #174

This is exactly why both parties are refusing to exercise their war powers Eddie Haskell 60 Yesterday #198

THEY ARE ALL ON VACATION johnnyfins Yesterday #53

I hope they're fucking enjoying it orangecrush Yesterday #64

NO, THEY ARE NOT ALL ON VACATION bigtree Yesterday #76

Anyone demanding the Democrats do something please tell us what the Democrats can do to stop this Fullduplexxx Yesterday #56

NOT MY JOB orangecrush Yesterday #61

For starters, show some interest by stopping your vacation and caucusing in DC. lees1975 Yesterday #88

Then what? BannonsLiver Yesterday #179

What are they doing? lees1975 Yesterday #220

MAKE.SOME.FUCKING.NOISE.FFS. demmiblue Yesterday #58

THIS THIS THIS johnnyfins Yesterday #115

Where is Congress, period? orangecrush Yesterday #59

It's up to us democrats to show up crud Yesterday #66

K&R ck4829 Yesterday #70

Why are you attacking the Dems? obamanut2012 Yesterday #74

Good question. DURHAM D Yesterday #78

Interesting OP doesn't have an OP calling out the GOP obamanut2012 Yesterday #82

Why is that my job? Why can't elected Democrats in Congress do that? lees1975 Yesterday #91

+1 orangecrush Yesterday #97

I see you obamanut2012 Yesterday #113

It's not your "job" to attack republicans - is that what you just said? TBF Yesterday #263

It sure is - I tried to point out that the Republicans TBF Yesterday #252

What do you want Democrats to do? Justice Yesterday #83

Take a wild ass guess orangecrush Yesterday #90

I just love the excuses that come out here whenever Democratic leadership is asked to display courage, take a risk and lees1975 Yesterday #86

Oh, my, what do you EXPECT THEM TO DOOOO??? orangecrush Yesterday #92

Wow obamanut2012 Yesterday #114

Yeah, Wow orangecrush Yesterday #123

Maybe instead of just calling Trump names SomedayKindaLove Yesterday #143

Yes. orangecrush Yesterday #152

Well something is better than nothing. lees1975 Yesterday #203

And yet you sneered at the fact that Sen Van Hollen mcar Yesterday #222

"Courage" is a meaningless word that people throw around when they don't have an effective action to suggest. FascismIsDeath Yesterday #104

Sorry I'm 69 years old orangecrush Yesterday #109

How about actually doing something with some risk, knowing exactly what needs to be done? lees1975 Yesterday #209

That sounds great if you are writing a fantasy script. tritsofme Yesterday #210

As I asked in reply #5, what, exactly, do you want them to do? MineralMan Yesterday #106

You can see a number of people saying Democratic leadership should call a press conference. Wiz Imp Yesterday #138

Yes. My point, exactly. MineralMan Yesterday #139

"The only objective MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #259

How? mcar Yesterday #94

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This message was self-deleted by its author orangecrush Yesterday #103

Why don't you get in touch with the mcar Yesterday #100

They can't stop it Bettie Yesterday #101

"Can't" orangecrush Yesterday #111

They can try, but we're dealing with Bettie Yesterday #121

Many are, as shown several times in this thread mcar Yesterday #223

Saw that after I posted Bettie Yesterday #231

One more time DownriverDem Yesterday #105

Comfort the afflicted orangecrush Yesterday #108

Majority of Americans get their news/info from the BillionaireBoyzClub controlled social media sites. What NoMoreRepugs Yesterday #112

This is tired, weak and untrue. Mr. Mustard 2023 Yesterday #116

... orangecrush Yesterday #128

Society is broken, this is just the latest symptom. OC375 Yesterday #120

Where are the Republicans who will stand up and stop him? LoisB Yesterday #132

yep, that's what we ultimately need- about 17 Republicans Eddie Haskell 60 Yesterday #149

Why don't you stop them? frogstar0 Yesterday #134

Well, you've been here since 2004 orangecrush Yesterday #146

Just another low post count, long time lurker chiming in CuriousSavage Yesterday #194

They need to appear anywhere and everywhere karin_sj Yesterday #135

If they had a backbone MW67 Yesterday #137

The Republicans can't even stop him. Donny, the criminally insane, is not playing by the rules. camartinwv Yesterday #140

Message deleted by the DU Administrators orangecrush Yesterday #148

There are some Dems (including leaders) who enjoy war porn Eddie Haskell 60 Yesterday #141

Episode 3,214 of the "Where Are Democrats, Why Don't They Stop Republicans?" show: THE 80%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! betsuni Yesterday #142

This entire thread is indicative of WHY Dems can't MuchBetterThanThis Yesterday #145

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Saying we're divisive is divisive Eddie Haskell 60 Yesterday #153

Well said orangecrush Yesterday #154

Wouldn't it be wonderful if we could all be Democrats just like you? NNadir 14 hrs ago #270

Stop him how, exactly? NT Happy Hoosier Yesterday #158

Reconvene orangecrush Yesterday #165

Does the gravity of the situation need underscoring? EarlG Yesterday #188

there's a large swath that has no clue what's going on Eddie Haskell 60 Yesterday #202

Of course it does! Are you kidding? And yes, there are large swaths Scrivener7 Yesterday #204

If people are so checked out that EarlG Yesterday #221

I don't know what a shadow session is, and I don't think Scrivener7 Yesterday #228

The post of mine that you replied to EarlG Yesterday #232

Having seen only a handful of statements this morning, I went looking for what you are seeing. Scrivener7 Yesterday #249

I agree with you that they should be speaking out, and it is good to see them doing so EarlG Yesterday #257

If we get through today without having a genocide on our hands, I still say the Scrivener7 Yesterday #258

This message was self-deleted by its author Scrivener7 Yesterday #234

I don't think they have the power to do that. Happy Hoosier Yesterday #235

Great question. Kid Berwyn Yesterday #160

Where are the Greens that will stop him? maxsolomon Yesterday #168

MAGAt Republicans can't even stand up to Piggy about their shoe sizes. MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #171

That framing is absolute horse shit. BannonsLiver Yesterday #175

IT IS THE REPUBLICANS' RESPONSIBILITY. THEY ARE THE MAJORITY. niyad Yesterday #184

Being actively silenced by our billionaire criminal owned media? Initech Yesterday #185

How exactly kacekwl Yesterday #186

Oh Geez Not This Again NBachers Yesterday #187

You do realize that Democrats are not just fighting TSF, but the House, the Senate and sometimes the supreme court. bluestarone Yesterday #208

Just How Would the Democrats Stop Him? Indykatie Yesterday #213

It's not the Democrats HAB911 Yesterday #224

BTW, I just spent 5 minutes on Bluesky and saw a bunch of elected Democrats mcar Yesterday #227

... TBF Yesterday #255

Yep! MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #261

I see no reason why we shouldn't all be panicking. snot Yesterday #229

Writing letters and offering words Bread and Circuses Yesterday #237

Yeah this is the time to be vocal even if it doesn't do anything ecstatic Yesterday #240

Here are statements from the House and Senate Democrats LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #246

Credit where credit is due, I am happy to see this. This is exactly where the starting point is. lees1975 Yesterday #251

See below - one of the democratic reps also filed Articles of Impeachment. TBF Yesterday #256

Possibly the forbearance of the Democrats could be no_hypocrisy Yesterday #253

You can stop blaming democrats now - here is your action TBF Yesterday #254

Too little too late- just kidding Redleg Yesterday #260

and here bigtree Yesterday #269

I had to do a small something. Called ( my Senator) Schumer's DC office... electric_blue68 Yesterday #262