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In light of Trump's insane rhetoric and demented rant, where are the Democrats who will stand up and stop him? (Original Post) lees1975 Yesterday OP
Hey Come On; they are working on a strongly worded letter, but it must be cleared by Democratic pollsters first! Chasstev365 Yesterday #1
Oh just stop with this tired meme mcar Yesterday #93
Thank you. evolves Yesterday #119
It's tough love and accurate Eddie Haskell 60 Yesterday #136
I disagree that it's "tough love" and it's not accurate mcar Yesterday #207
why people still use MSM? Eddie Haskell 60 Yesterday #243
Oh just stop complaining about it Disaffected Yesterday #161
Lol! 😆 Dave Bowman Yesterday #192
Passionate strongly-worded rallies throughout the land did not result in grassroots political revolution as promised. betsuni Yesterday #215
And where TF are YOU? Trueblue Texan Yesterday #218
Please stop! agingdem Yesterday #156
How would Dems stop him? I'm not sure that's possible. 3_Limes Yesterday #2
So say and do nothing? Chasstev365 Yesterday #4
And that would accomplish what, exactly? Wiz Imp Yesterday #7
I refuse to be a sheep! Chasstev365 Yesterday #10
Huh? Wiz Imp Yesterday #18
Your answer is to sit and do nothing. Huh? Chasstev365 Yesterday #19
Wrong. But Your answer is to do something performative that accomplishes nothiing Wiz Imp Yesterday #27
Isn't everything Trump does performative and it's been effective with the uninformed? Chasstev365 Yesterday #41
Right!? How many influential people affiliated with the administration do nothing of substance? ck4829 Yesterday #52
And you think those same people are going to be impressed by a Democratic press conference? Wiz Imp Yesterday #60
Trump is not simply "performative" - he's got ICE terrifying this country TBF Yesterday #248
That is a weak H2O Man 20 hrs ago #265
So, what exactly are YOU doing, Chief? TBF Yesterday #28
I know I called my Republican Senators yesterday and crickets... Hope22 Yesterday #159
Let us know H2O Man 20 hrs ago #266
How did Mitch McConnell so effectively block Obama and Biden from 80% of what they wanted. lees1975 Yesterday #22
He didn't. Wiz Imp Yesterday #29
Significant legislation blocked by Republicans when Dems had a majority. lees1975 Yesterday #216
Try again. Only one of your claims is partially true Wiz Imp Yesterday #242
Well done! H2O Man 20 hrs ago #267
A voice against the insanity. That's the job of the opposition party. Scrivener7 Yesterday #126
RFN! The head Democrats should be giving an Urgent Address to the Nation Ars Longa Yesterday #49
This. Thank you. Scrivener7 Yesterday #129
This would do something. Kid Berwyn Yesterday #167
People here would sneer mcar Yesterday #95
I feel like they are working sagetea Yesterday #157
I was told Garland was working in the shadows too. He wasn't. Scrivener7 Yesterday #196
And yet we still have not achieved universal healthcare when we held House, and 60-40 Senate in 2009 (briefly) Moostache Yesterday #102
it's much easier to block progress than build something good LymphocyteLover Yesterday #127
This is my question, too. -misanthroptimist Yesterday #200
What Greg_In_SF Yesterday #3
Stop their fund raising nest feathering, get together as a group and call this out. lees1975 Yesterday #6
And what exactly would that accomplish? It would stop nothing. Wiz Imp Yesterday #11
Only Republicans can stop the President? ck4829 Yesterday #20
Only for the first 2 years SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #163
It seems a group here has become wedded to that Scrivener7 Yesterday #133
And you could say the same thing about people insisting Democrats are always doing nothing EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #183
So they should... give a speech? EarlG Yesterday #170
Seems delulu if I'm being honest. BannonsLiver Yesterday #176
I suppose it would make people like the original poster happy, at least LymphocyteLover Yesterday #130
So, tell us how they should accomplish that. MineralMan Yesterday #5
If I want to read right-wing drivel, TBF Yesterday #8
Bravo!!!! Wiz Imp Yesterday #15
And when Democrats had the majority under Obama and Biden lees1975 Yesterday #16
🎯 Chasstev365 Yesterday #21
Get on the phone & call Congress right fucking now - TBF Yesterday #23
He didn't say anything about blaming Democrats Eddie Haskell 60 Yesterday #144
Any suggestion that Democrats should act like a true Scrivener7 Yesterday #199
I really hope we can criticize ourselves moving forward Eddie Haskell 60 Yesterday #206
That's not what I said - but nice try, sport. TBF Yesterday #250
No they didn't. Wiz Imp Yesterday #32
Yes they did. I don't remember the exact count lees1975 Yesterday #51
And how many Trump bills have passed the Senate? Wiz Imp Yesterday #57
One big beautiful bill lees1975 Yesterday #69
Zero Democrats voted for the One Big Beautiful Bill Wiz Imp Yesterday #79
Thank you. betsuni Yesterday #96
When reality doesn't fit the narrative, just spread lies about Democrats... tritsofme Yesterday #124
Obama had a filibuster proof majority in the senate from September 24, 2009 to Feb. 4, 2010. betsuni Yesterday #68
And there were only 72 working days during that period. n/t markpkessinger Yesterday #191
Wow! Wiz Imp Yesterday #117
The implication seems to be that Democrats should filibuster Trump's war EarlG Yesterday #182
Got it - you won't stop until you insult every democrat you can think of. n/t TBF Yesterday #77
80%? mcar Yesterday #98
Of course they don't. It's not remotely close to being true. Wiz Imp Yesterday #122
Republicans were able to block THE most important thing- SCOTUS nominations Eddie Haskell 60 Yesterday #147
That's only because Republicans had a Senate majority. tritsofme Yesterday #150
I'm more concerned about Republicans who have controlled SCOTUS for 75 years Eddie Haskell 60 Yesterday #155
Recess appointment? There was no recess. What are you even talking about? tritsofme Yesterday #169
Incredible, isn't it? Wiz Imp Yesterday #172
Post removed Post removed Yesterday #190
The person who said Republicans blocked a Supreme court nominee while in Wiz Imp Yesterday #219
of course there was a recess Eddie Haskell 60 Yesterday #173
No, there wasn't, the Senate held pro-forma sessions to prevent recess appointments. tritsofme Yesterday #181
you're talking about some of his other recess apppointments Eddie Haskell 60 Yesterday #189
No, there was no serious path for Obama to make a recess appointment. tritsofme Yesterday #195
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Post removed Post removed Yesterday #230
Wow! Wiz Imp Yesterday #238
I can see who's lacking self awareness Eddie Haskell 60 Yesterday #239
Again, the person who believed the Republicans blocked a Supreme Court nominee when they were in the minority Wiz Imp Yesterday #244
You haven't elucidated anything that could have reasonably been "tried." You're just selling magic beans. tritsofme Yesterday #241
Wrong. nt mcar Yesterday #211
Republicans were in the MAJORITY when they blocked the Supreme Court nomination Wiz Imp Yesterday #164
Republicans controlled the senate, had the majority in 2015. betsuni Yesterday #166
IIRC, in the runup to the 2016 GE mcar Yesterday #212
Look it up. lees1975 Yesterday #193
You are absolutely right. Katinfl Yesterday #110
Seriously! Listen, I'm the last person to be on a "Let's look at Dems" rant Prairie Gates Yesterday #9
The REPUBLICAN, who is speaker of the House, sent them home. nt TBF Yesterday #25
They are free agents and can go where they want Prairie Gates Yesterday #34
You are telling me the dems can impeach the president while TBF Yesterday #81
What in the world Prairie Gates Yesterday #85
i think most of them are typing rhetorical questions on message boards Torchlight Yesterday #12
Social media interns must be overwhelmed leftstreet Yesterday #17
Senator Van Hollen is speaking on MSNOW calling him unhinged. spanone Yesterday #13
Well, that's effective. lees1975 Yesterday #38
You asked. spanone Yesterday #47
Yet you think a Democratic press conference is going to do what? Wiz Imp Yesterday #65
Swift goalposts Torchlight Yesterday #75
Senator Van Hollen is MY Senior Senator! BlueMTexpat Yesterday #118
The only thing they seem to be doing is complaining about Democrats Wiz Imp Yesterday #125
Exactly! BlueMTexpat 20 hrs ago #264
What do you suggest they do? City Lights Yesterday #14
For one thing, Mark Kelly needs to re-iterate his "Illegal Orders" challenge on national television. lees1975 Yesterday #31
take a minute to look to see who is doing these things, and highlight them here. bigtree Yesterday #40
Well, I tried Just_Vote_Dem Yesterday #247
Those things would not "work" they are pure fantasy, you're pushing nonsense and faery tales tritsofme Yesterday #131
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Let's see here. Here are some ideas. And the "let's do nothing"-ists can go on by ck4829 Yesterday #26
And how does that stop Trump from dropping a nuke if he wants to do that? Wiz Imp Yesterday #35
If he does, he does? Trump dropping a nuke is not an excuse to not do the things I listed. ck4829 Yesterday #45
🙄 Wiz Imp Yesterday #55
When and how did we become so weak? ck4829 Yesterday #67
Hi... when and how did it happen? ck4829 Yesterday #162
as if we care about this more than them bigtree Yesterday #30
Quite a bit of power to thwart, judging from how well the Republicans have done it when they were the minority. lees1975 Yesterday #36
You seem to think Republicans accomplished a hell of a lot more in the minority Wiz Imp Yesterday #43
Look at their record. lees1975 Yesterday #71
Name one Republican priority that passed the Senate due to Democratic votes? Wiz Imp Yesterday #87
The first government shutdown. lees1975 Yesterday #197
Not republican priority legislation. Must pass legislation. Wiz Imp Yesterday #233
What blockade record? What legislation did they block? betsuni Yesterday #54
that fallacy is old and tired bigtree Yesterday #62
Uh huh. lees1975 Yesterday #72
and there it is bigtree Yesterday #84
They are totally uninformed and ignorant of basic facts. Wiz Imp Yesterday #89
This! mcar Yesterday #107
Democratic leaders could use their voices to lead an opposition. Kid Berwyn Yesterday #180
they are bigtree 20 hrs ago #268
Yes, we could have had not one but two strong, qualified women mcar Yesterday #214
For those who think the Democratic Party should do nothing, explain to me why this would be wrong: Chasstev365 Yesterday #33
And as I stated earlier. A leadership press conference would accomplish NOTHING! Wiz Imp Yesterday #39
We'll have to totally disagree on this Chasstev365 Yesterday #42
Maybe not. But a leadership press conference with a court order stopping the President until Congress approves lees1975 Yesterday #46
That court order ITAL Yesterday #63
A stay is a win. lees1975 Yesterday #73
You misunderstand ITAL Yesterday #80
If the first court issued a stay, the supreme court sitting on it just extends the stay unless they remove it. lees1975 Yesterday #201
No court is going to issue such a stay to begin with. This frame is completely divorced from reality. tritsofme Yesterday #205
Actually if a court issues the order, it is enforceable until it is stayed. lees1975 Yesterday #217
Yes, if a court issued that order. That's the fantasy part. tritsofme Yesterday #226
It's incredibly depressing to read such nonsense fact-free fantasy on DU. Wiz Imp Yesterday #236
I didn't say a Federal Court would issue a stay ITAL Yesterday #245
For those who think the party should "stop this" act BannonsLiver Yesterday #177
They Rebl2 Yesterday #37
Stop with the bullshit. FIrst of all, Democrats aren't the majority party right now, because enough Americans thought lostincalifornia Yesterday #44
What is your idea of how DEMOCRATS can stop him? hay rick Yesterday #48
If we think real hard and click our heels 3 times. BannonsLiver Yesterday #178
This may get me banned DonCoquixote Yesterday #50
AIPAC keeps track. Kid Berwyn Yesterday #174
This is exactly why both parties are refusing to exercise their war powers Eddie Haskell 60 Yesterday #198
THEY ARE ALL ON VACATION johnnyfins Yesterday #53
I hope they're fucking enjoying it orangecrush Yesterday #64
NO, THEY ARE NOT ALL ON VACATION bigtree Yesterday #76
Anyone demanding the Democrats do something please tell us what the Democrats can do to stop this Fullduplexxx Yesterday #56
NOT MY JOB orangecrush Yesterday #61
For starters, show some interest by stopping your vacation and caucusing in DC. lees1975 Yesterday #88
Then what? BannonsLiver Yesterday #179
What are they doing? lees1975 Yesterday #220
MAKE.SOME.FUCKING.NOISE.FFS. demmiblue Yesterday #58
THIS THIS THIS johnnyfins Yesterday #115
Where is Congress, period? orangecrush Yesterday #59
It's up to us democrats to show up crud Yesterday #66
K&R ck4829 Yesterday #70
Why are you attacking the Dems? obamanut2012 Yesterday #74
Good question. DURHAM D Yesterday #78
Interesting OP doesn't have an OP calling out the GOP obamanut2012 Yesterday #82
Why is that my job? Why can't elected Democrats in Congress do that? lees1975 Yesterday #91
+1 orangecrush Yesterday #97
I see you obamanut2012 Yesterday #113
It's not your "job" to attack republicans - is that what you just said? TBF 21 hrs ago #263
It sure is - I tried to point out that the Republicans TBF Yesterday #252
What do you want Democrats to do? Justice Yesterday #83
Take a wild ass guess orangecrush Yesterday #90
I just love the excuses that come out here whenever Democratic leadership is asked to display courage, take a risk and lees1975 Yesterday #86
Oh, my, what do you EXPECT THEM TO DOOOO??? orangecrush Yesterday #92
Wow obamanut2012 Yesterday #114
Yeah, Wow orangecrush Yesterday #123
Maybe instead of just calling Trump names SomedayKindaLove Yesterday #143
Yes. orangecrush Yesterday #152
Well something is better than nothing. lees1975 Yesterday #203
And yet you sneered at the fact that Sen Van Hollen mcar Yesterday #222
"Courage" is a meaningless word that people throw around when they don't have an effective action to suggest. FascismIsDeath Yesterday #104
Sorry I'm 69 years old orangecrush Yesterday #109
How about actually doing something with some risk, knowing exactly what needs to be done? lees1975 Yesterday #209
That sounds great if you are writing a fantasy script. tritsofme Yesterday #210
As I asked in reply #5, what, exactly, do you want them to do? MineralMan Yesterday #106
You can see a number of people saying Democratic leadership should call a press conference. Wiz Imp Yesterday #138
Yes. My point, exactly. MineralMan Yesterday #139
"The only objective MorbidButterflyTat 23 hrs ago #259
How? mcar Yesterday #94
Post removed Post removed Yesterday #99
This message was self-deleted by its author orangecrush Yesterday #103
Why don't you get in touch with the mcar Yesterday #100
They can't stop it Bettie Yesterday #101
"Can't" orangecrush Yesterday #111
They can try, but we're dealing with Bettie Yesterday #121
Many are, as shown several times in this thread mcar Yesterday #223
Saw that after I posted Bettie Yesterday #231
One more time DownriverDem Yesterday #105
Comfort the afflicted orangecrush Yesterday #108
Majority of Americans get their news/info from the BillionaireBoyzClub controlled social media sites. What NoMoreRepugs Yesterday #112
This is tired, weak and untrue. Mr. Mustard 2023 Yesterday #116
... orangecrush Yesterday #128
Society is broken, this is just the latest symptom. OC375 Yesterday #120
Where are the Republicans who will stand up and stop him? LoisB Yesterday #132
yep, that's what we ultimately need- about 17 Republicans Eddie Haskell 60 Yesterday #149
Why don't you stop them? frogstar0 Yesterday #134
Well, you've been here since 2004 orangecrush Yesterday #146
Just another low post count, long time lurker chiming in CuriousSavage Yesterday #194
They need to appear anywhere and everywhere karin_sj Yesterday #135
If they had a backbone MW67 Yesterday #137
The Republicans can't even stop him. Donny, the criminally insane, is not playing by the rules. camartinwv Yesterday #140
Message deleted by the DU Administrators orangecrush Yesterday #148
There are some Dems (including leaders) who enjoy war porn Eddie Haskell 60 Yesterday #141
Episode 3,214 of the "Where Are Democrats, Why Don't They Stop Republicans?" show: THE 80%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! betsuni Yesterday #142
This entire thread is indicative of WHY Dems can't MuchBetterThanThis Yesterday #145
Post removed Post removed Yesterday #151
Saying we're divisive is divisive Eddie Haskell 60 Yesterday #153
Well said orangecrush Yesterday #154
Wouldn't it be wonderful if we could all be Democrats just like you? NNadir 8 hrs ago #270
Stop him how, exactly? NT Happy Hoosier Yesterday #158
Reconvene orangecrush Yesterday #165
Does the gravity of the situation need underscoring? EarlG Yesterday #188
there's a large swath that has no clue what's going on Eddie Haskell 60 Yesterday #202
Of course it does! Are you kidding? And yes, there are large swaths Scrivener7 Yesterday #204
If people are so checked out that EarlG Yesterday #221
I don't know what a shadow session is, and I don't think Scrivener7 Yesterday #228
The post of mine that you replied to EarlG Yesterday #232
Having seen only a handful of statements this morning, I went looking for what you are seeing. Scrivener7 Yesterday #249
I agree with you that they should be speaking out, and it is good to see them doing so EarlG Yesterday #257
If we get through today without having a genocide on our hands, I still say the Scrivener7 23 hrs ago #258
This message was self-deleted by its author Scrivener7 Yesterday #234
I don't think they have the power to do that. Happy Hoosier Yesterday #235
Great question. Kid Berwyn Yesterday #160
Where are the Greens that will stop him? maxsolomon Yesterday #168
MAGAt Republicans can't even stand up to Piggy about their shoe sizes. MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #171
That framing is absolute horse shit. BannonsLiver Yesterday #175
IT IS THE REPUBLICANS' RESPONSIBILITY. THEY ARE THE MAJORITY. niyad Yesterday #184
Being actively silenced by our billionaire criminal owned media? Initech Yesterday #185
How exactly kacekwl Yesterday #186
Oh Geez Not This Again NBachers Yesterday #187
You do realize that Democrats are not just fighting TSF, but the House, the Senate and sometimes the supreme court. bluestarone Yesterday #208
Just How Would the Democrats Stop Him? Indykatie Yesterday #213
It's not the Democrats HAB911 Yesterday #224
BTW, I just spent 5 minutes on Bluesky and saw a bunch of elected Democrats mcar Yesterday #227
... TBF Yesterday #255
Yep! MorbidButterflyTat 23 hrs ago #261
I see no reason why we shouldn't all be panicking. snot Yesterday #229
Writing letters and offering words Bread and Circuses Yesterday #237
Yeah this is the time to be vocal even if it doesn't do anything ecstatic Yesterday #240
Here are statements from the House and Senate Democrats LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #246
Credit where credit is due, I am happy to see this. This is exactly where the starting point is. lees1975 Yesterday #251
See below - one of the democratic reps also filed Articles of Impeachment. TBF Yesterday #256
Possibly the forbearance of the Democrats could be no_hypocrisy Yesterday #253
You can stop blaming democrats now - here is your action TBF Yesterday #254
Too little too late- just kidding Redleg 23 hrs ago #260
and here bigtree 19 hrs ago #269
I had to do a small something. Called ( my Senator) Schumer's DC office... electric_blue68 23 hrs ago #262

Chasstev365

(7,851 posts)
1. Hey Come On; they are working on a strongly worded letter, but it must be cleared by Democratic pollsters first!
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:16 AM
Yesterday

mcar

(46,114 posts)
207. I disagree that it's "tough love" and it's not accurate
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 02:17 PM
Yesterday

It's knee-jerk Dem bashing, as evidenced by the OPs response (38) to post 13 showing that Democrats are speaking out.

Well, that's effective.


So, it's all Dems need to be talking to the MSM about this. They are, and we get a puke emoji, or the strongly worded letter nonsense.
 

Eddie Haskell 60

(130 posts)
243. why people still use MSM?
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 03:23 PM
Yesterday

Saying MSM is such a 1980s Republican talking point. This is 21st century where everyone has phones and their own media.

And it's going to be a bumpy ride for Dems who want to stay moderate for appeasement vs Dems who want to go more left/progressive to stand by principles. It should be a heathy and constructive discussion along with calling out what did/did not work in the past, including 'strongly worded letters.'

Saying things like 'knee-jerk Dem bashing' is just dismissive and a refusal to even entertain what the party should stand for.

betsuni

(29,108 posts)
215. Passionate strongly-worded rallies throughout the land did not result in grassroots political revolution as promised.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 02:32 PM
Yesterday

Where is the revolution? The establishment...

There is bitterness. But one will fight back! Written words are elite, letters, elite. Strongly worded letters -- ah, yes, the enemy will shrivel with impotent humiliation before such a clever taunting! They will be sorry. Oh, the posse will be sorry...

Trueblue Texan

(4,498 posts)
218. And where TF are YOU?
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 02:36 PM
Yesterday

Sitting in comfort dashing insults to Dems who ARE trying to effectively address TSF’s insanity!

agingdem

(8,874 posts)
156. Please stop!
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 12:51 PM
Yesterday

the Dems can stop Trump if they take a veto-proof House and Senate in November ...

in the meantime Trump's cabinet and JD Vance have to invoke Section 4 of the 25th Amendment...and what are the odds the most corrupt cabinet ever and clown Vance will give up their multi-billion dollar grift?...but if they do invoke the 25th Amendment and Trump fights it, then it's up to the Congress to decide the issue with a two thirds vote to remove him.....again..what are the odds?..

if you think the No Kings marches haven't swayed even the most die-hard Republican you're wrong...they've lost Marge Green and a handful of semi-lucid loud Republicans...so there's that..

the Dems are no longer playing nice...they're everywhere..every progressive podcast/MSNOW..even FOX..raising the alarm of allowing a senile psychotic old man to remain in office another day...

3_Limes

(536 posts)
2. How would Dems stop him? I'm not sure that's possible.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:16 AM
Yesterday

Being in the minority leaves them at a big disadvantage here.

Chasstev365

(7,851 posts)
4. So say and do nothing?
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:18 AM
Yesterday

At the minimum there should be a leadership press conference declaring the president of the United States is clinically insane.

ck4829

(37,857 posts)
52. Right!? How many influential people affiliated with the administration do nothing of substance?
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:52 AM
Yesterday

Riley Gaines = Absolutely nothing of substance
Laura Loomer = Absolutely nothing of substance
"Gulf of America" = Absolutely nothing of substance

Wiz Imp

(10,080 posts)
60. And you think those same people are going to be impressed by a Democratic press conference?
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:58 AM
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TBF

(36,779 posts)
248. Trump is not simply "performative" - he's got ICE terrifying this country
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 03:39 PM
Yesterday

and real people (and our military) are dying in Iran.

WTF is performative about THAT?

H2O Man

(79,089 posts)
265. That is a weak
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 07:29 PM
20 hrs ago

debating tactic that one should learn not to use in junior high school. Telling people what they think should never be mistaken for a valid debating tactic.

TBF

(36,779 posts)
28. So, what exactly are YOU doing, Chief?
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:36 AM
Yesterday

Screaming at democrats on a message board? You need to call Congress, also.

Hope22

(4,777 posts)
159. I know I called my Republican Senators yesterday and crickets...
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 12:54 PM
Yesterday

When I asked the person who answered when would the senator be back to work she told me that Capital police had instructed her not to give his location!!! My response was that I was not a stalker and only wanted to know if there was a plan to get back to work. After a long sigh she said that Johnson has directed session to open on the 14th. So I can tell you what the Reps are doing….absolutely nothing while the Dems are hog tied and unable to even get to the floor!! For people who say Dems do nothing I suggest they watch Lawrence O’Donnell on The Last Word. People are still working. What part of being in the minority don’t people get?

lees1975

(7,081 posts)
22. How did Mitch McConnell so effectively block Obama and Biden from 80% of what they wanted.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:30 AM
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Maybe getting his playbook out might do some good. He sure was effective whenever the GOP was in the minority.

Wiz Imp

(10,080 posts)
29. He didn't.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:37 AM
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Last edited Tue Apr 7, 2026, 12:03 PM - Edit history (1)



Significant legislation passed under Obama and Biden:

Affordable Care Act
Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act
American Recovery and Reinvestment Act
Consumer Protection Act
Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act
Inflation Reduction Act
CHIPS and Science Act
American Rescue Plan Act

lees1975

(7,081 posts)
216. Significant legislation blocked by Republicans when Dems had a majority.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 02:34 PM
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Key portions of the ACA
Key portions of the infrastructure investment act including the budget
Key portions of the Inflation Reduction Act
All of the Border security initiatives
All of the immigration reform initiatives
13 different reconciliation budget bills
voting reforms aimed at restoring what the courts took out of the voting rights act

Wiz Imp

(10,080 posts)
242. Try again. Only one of your claims is partially true
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 03:23 PM
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Key portions of the ACA (mainly blocked by Democrats - Lieberman, Baucus, Ben Nelson, Blanche Lincoln, Kent Conrad, Tom Carper... )
Key portions of the infrastructure investment act including the budget (blocked by Manchin and Sinema, NOT Republicans)
Key portions of the Inflation Reduction Act (blocked by Manchin & Sinema NOT Republicans)
All of the Border security initiatives (Blocked when Republicans were in the majority in the House)
All of the immigration reform initiatives (Not ALL immigration reform initiatives were blocked, but some were.)
13 different reconciliation budget bills (LOL, by definition, Republicans couldn't block reconciliation bills. Reconcilliation bills require a simple majority. It's effectively impossible for Republicans to have blocked any reconciliation bills).
voting reforms aimed at restoring what the courts took out of the voting rights act (blocked by Manchin & Sinema)

Keep in mind, if Democrats had abolished the filibuster at any point in Obama's or Biden's terms, the SAVE Act would now be the law of the land.

Scrivener7

(59,606 posts)
126. A voice against the insanity. That's the job of the opposition party.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:57 AM
Yesterday

Not the Eyeore "Oh, bother, nothing can be done" bullshit.

Ars Longa

(532 posts)
49. RFN! The head Democrats should be giving an Urgent Address to the Nation
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:51 AM
Yesterday

Right F-ing now, The Democrats need to get their foremost political stars, (Sen's Murphy, Kelly, Beshear AOC, Newsome and others) together
and have an Urgent Address to the Nation. An address that bangs the table for the removal of Trump by 25th amendment or
Impeachment-pertaining to his latest round of unhinged-lunatic actions and statements concerning the War in Iran..
Yeah, Of course the Rs won't even take this up---But now is the time, as the Opposition Party---to be an Opposition Party, and the Voice of getting back to sanity & normallcy, and the adults In the room , And call for his REMOVAL!!

sagetea

(1,560 posts)
157. I feel like they are working
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 12:51 PM
Yesterday

in the shadows. I don't know...thinking that stops me from being paralyzed, anyway. I just. feel they are working in the shadows,


sage

Scrivener7

(59,606 posts)
196. I was told Garland was working in the shadows too. He wasn't.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 01:59 PM
Yesterday

If you're not seeing it, it's likely not happening.

Moostache

(11,201 posts)
102. And yet we still have not achieved universal healthcare when we held House, and 60-40 Senate in 2009 (briefly)
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:33 AM
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All I am saying is that the GOP - while in the minority for much of the time and in a super minority for the first year managed to stymie and stall and delay and frustrate much of President Obama's agenda and initiatives. The GOP is just better at obstruction and delays than Democratic Party leaders.

lees1975

(7,081 posts)
6. Stop their fund raising nest feathering, get together as a group and call this out.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:20 AM
Yesterday

They still think its 1980 and the other side can be made to make a deal. I'd say this calls for pulling some money out to deliver a nationwide address stating that what Trump is doing is illegal under international law, and that Congress hasn't authorized it. The Republicans blocked 80% of what Obama wanted to do when he had a majority in both houses and they did the same to Biden. Why in the world won't we do that?

"We're not in the majority, tsk tsk tsk" is a LOSING political slogan. If they don't do anything now, they never will,

Wiz Imp

(10,080 posts)
11. And what exactly would that accomplish? It would stop nothing.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:23 AM
Yesterday

The Democrats are not in a position to be able to stop Trump. Only the Republicans can do that.

ck4829

(37,857 posts)
20. Only Republicans can stop the President?
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:29 AM
Yesterday

They were certainly a thorn in Biden's side and they were the minority then too.

Scrivener7

(59,606 posts)
133. It seems a group here has become wedded to that
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 12:05 PM
Yesterday

exact message when the situation is clearly calling for the voice of opposition to speak some sanity. It seems to come out of the asinine notion that any criticism or suggestion that more can be done is an attack on Democrats.

I suggest you think through your insistence that our leaders mustn't speak in a crisis, mustn't use even those avenues of protest that are open to us.

It's just a habit now, a position in an old argument the world has long moved on from, and it makes no sense.

EdmondDantes_

(1,832 posts)
183. And you could say the same thing about people insisting Democrats are always doing nothing
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 01:32 PM
Yesterday
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5819516-democrats-condemn-trump-iran/

Especially awkward given Democrats are in fact condemning Trump's most recent screed on Iran. Maybe the people saying Democrats aren't speaking out aren't listening.

But the OP didn't actually propose a suggestion for how Democrats in Congress stop Trump. It's easy to say someone else has to do something when you aren't making a suggestion much less doing it yourself. Given the ways to immediately stop a president are realistically convincing the president, theoretically you could use the 25th amendment, but that seems unlikely seeing how it involves getting his cabinet to go along, or I suppose there's always options that the Secret Service does their best to prevent whether that's trying to physically block Trump from his phone or fully illegal options like kidnapping him.

Even if someone introduced articles of impeachment, that's not going to be resolved by tonight.

Putting out statements on social media is faster and more likely to spread than going on MSNow, plus everyone can put out their own rather than 1 person going on a TV show.

So be clear, what exactly should be done either from my options or if I missed any? What steps aren't being taken that could stop Trump from trying to make good on his threat by tonight?

TBF

(36,779 posts)
8. If I want to read right-wing drivel,
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:22 AM
Yesterday

I'll re-subscribe to the Washington Post.

To repeat for about the 100th time: REPUBLICANS have the executive branch, REPUBLICANS are the majority in Congress, REPUBLICANS have the majority of picks on the supreme court. This is on REPUBLICANS.

This nonsense would stop if REPUBLICANS would re-convene Congress and file articles of impeachment. I promise you democrats will vote to impeach, and that is all they have the authority to do while REPUBLICANS are in charge of everything.

lees1975

(7,081 posts)
16. And when Democrats had the majority under Obama and Biden
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:26 AM
Yesterday

the Republicans effectively stopped 80% of the agenda of both. So why can't we use those same tactics and do the same? Are you saying that we don't have anyone in our party as politically devious and ingenious as Mitch McConnell was, in using the minority power to stop what ever it was they didn't want.

This is a piss-poor, whiny baby excuse. It's because no one is willing to actually risk the fallout for taking a stand.

TBF

(36,779 posts)
23. Get on the phone & call Congress right fucking now -
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:32 AM
Yesterday

And I know you don't understand the reference, and I don't care. The person who originally wrote it would understand.

The president of the free world, a REPUBLICAN, is threatening to wipe out an entire country. And you would have us blame democrats.


 

Eddie Haskell 60

(130 posts)
144. He didn't say anything about blaming Democrats
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 12:34 PM
Yesterday

Why are you against having more of our Dem leaders speak out? That's what this thread is about. Not blaming them.

Scrivener7

(59,606 posts)
199. Any suggestion that Democrats should act like a true
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 02:01 PM
Yesterday

party of opposition is interpreted as an attack by some here.

 

Eddie Haskell 60

(130 posts)
206. I really hope we can criticize ourselves moving forward
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 02:12 PM
Yesterday

It makes us stronger. Only thing I hope is that Democratic leaders learn from Trump the second time. The way I see it, there are two camps with two views:

-Keep moderate view and go more right thinking that will appease independents OR go left/progressive to stand with principles.

-Elect moderate Dem and push progressive issue (like Obama w/ gay marriage) OR go full progressive and drag party with them (like Trump dragged Republicans to extreme right).

TBF

(36,779 posts)
250. That's not what I said - but nice try, sport.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 03:48 PM
Yesterday

This thread is not about "speaking out" - this thread is clearly about blaming democrats.

lees1975

(7,081 posts)
51. Yes they did. I don't remember the exact count
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:52 AM
Yesterday

but something like 94 out of 115 bills proposed in Obama's first 100 days died in the Senate.

You can't have members voting with the other side if you want to be an effective blockade minority and they certainly were, no doubt about it and to deny that is to display ignorance of the facts.

lees1975

(7,081 posts)
69. One big beautiful bill
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:06 AM
Yesterday

with everything he wanted in it, because Democrats voted for it.

He's only been in just over a year, and yes, he has gotten more through the Senate than Obama or Biden did when they had the majority.

So you are admitting the Democrats aren't weak and helpless like your original claim that we can't do anything because we're not in the majority? Apparently you think we have done something. So why can't we do more? Because some Democrats have not gotten off sitting on their hands on this issue.

Wiz Imp

(10,080 posts)
79. Zero Democrats voted for the One Big Beautiful Bill
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:17 AM
Yesterday

It passed the Senate with a simple Republican majority because it was a reconcilliation bill. In fact it required Vance to break the tie.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Big_Beautiful_Bill_Act#:~:text=Before%20being%20signed%20into%20law,Democratic%20opposition%20in%20both%20houses.

After an over 24-hour vote-a-rama, the bill passed the Senate on July 1, 2025, in a mostly party-line 51–50 vote.[171] All Senate Democrats voted against the bill, and Republicans Rand Paul, Thom Tillis, and Susan Collins of Maine broke from their party to vote against the bill as well.[172] Faced with a tie vote, Republican vice president JD Vance cast a tie-breaking vote in favor of the bill.

On July 3, the House of Representatives passed the Senate version of the OBBBA in a final mostly party-line vote of 218–214.[179] Republican moderate Brian Fitzpatrick and fiscal conservative Thomas Massie, along with all Democrats, voted against the bill.[180][181]


Your ignorance of simple basic facts does your argument no favors.

There is no point in trying to argue with you because you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

betsuni

(29,108 posts)
96. Thank you.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:26 AM
Yesterday

BUT THE 80%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *lights self on fire, runs in circles screaming* OBAMA BIDEN BLAME DEMOCRATS 80% AHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

tritsofme

(19,916 posts)
124. When reality doesn't fit the narrative, just spread lies about Democrats...
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:55 AM
Yesterday

Now who does that remind me of? 🤔

betsuni

(29,108 posts)
68. Obama had a filibuster proof majority in the senate from September 24, 2009 to Feb. 4, 2010.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:04 AM
Yesterday

Four months and ten days.

Wiz Imp

(10,080 posts)
117. Wow!
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:44 AM
Yesterday

Who's ignorant of the facts?

Legislation enacted under Trump (2025 - present) 83
Legislation enacted under Biden (2021 - 2024) 639
Legislation enacted under Obama (2009 - 2016) 1294

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/statistics

EarlG

(23,658 posts)
182. The implication seems to be that Democrats should filibuster Trump's war
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 01:29 PM
Yesterday

How would that work?

Wiz Imp

(10,080 posts)
122. Of course they don't. It's not remotely close to being true.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:52 AM
Yesterday

Way too many people here erroneously think that the Republicans blocked a hell of a lot more while in the minority than they actually did.

 

Eddie Haskell 60

(130 posts)
147. Republicans were able to block THE most important thing- SCOTUS nominations
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 12:37 PM
Yesterday

Nothing else matters more than Supreme Court. Republicans recognized this decades ago and I feel a lot of my fellow Dems struggle with this.

tritsofme

(19,916 posts)
150. That's only because Republicans had a Senate majority.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 12:41 PM
Yesterday

We confirmed Sotomayor and Kagan when Democrats controlled the chamber.

So not sure how your example has any relevance toward today?

 

Eddie Haskell 60

(130 posts)
155. I'm more concerned about Republicans who have controlled SCOTUS for 75 years
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 12:50 PM
Yesterday

Obama didn't even try recess appointment. And Republican voters know SCOTUS is priority for everything.

After Trump, I'm REALLY hoping Dems will start taking pages from GOP playbook.

tritsofme

(19,916 posts)
169. Recess appointment? There was no recess. What are you even talking about?
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 01:11 PM
Yesterday

Obama had no options, Republicans controlled the Senate, there was no magic wand.

This sort of revisionist history is just more lies about Democrats.

Wiz Imp

(10,080 posts)
172. Incredible, isn't it?
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 01:19 PM
Yesterday

They're so confident in their incorrect "facts". Kind of reminds you of another group of people....

Response to Wiz Imp (Reply #172)

Wiz Imp

(10,080 posts)
219. The person who said Republicans blocked a Supreme court nominee while in
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 02:37 PM
Yesterday

The minority thinks I'm ignoring facts? Unbelievable.

 

Eddie Haskell 60

(130 posts)
173. of course there was a recess
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 01:21 PM
Yesterday

That's insane to think they stayed the entire time. Of course, it was theoretical to appoint SCOTUS during recess but he never attempted it.

tritsofme

(19,916 posts)
181. No, there wasn't, the Senate held pro-forma sessions to prevent recess appointments.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 01:28 PM
Yesterday

Obama actually tried to aggressively overcome this tactic early in his second term, by declaring the pro-forma sessions invalid and determining he was able to make recess appointments.

The Supreme Court shot him down unanimously in Noel Canning and invalidated those appointments.

That decision considerably narrowed the president’s ability to make recess appointments going forward.

Glad you were able to learn something today!

 

Eddie Haskell 60

(130 posts)
189. you're talking about some of his other recess apppointments
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 01:50 PM
Yesterday

SCOTUS recess appointment discussion was different and they decided not to do it.

glad you learned something today.

tritsofme

(19,916 posts)
195. No, there was no serious path for Obama to make a recess appointment.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 01:59 PM
Yesterday

No, it wasn’t ‘different.’ The Senate used pro-forma sessions specifically to prevent a recess, and SCOTUS unanimously upheld that in Noel Canning. There was no window to make one.

Fantasy fiction that might have been posted here and fooled some fools, notwithstanding.

Response to Eddie Haskell 60 (Reply #189)

Response to Post removed (Reply #225)

Wiz Imp

(10,080 posts)
238. Wow!
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 03:05 PM
Yesterday

This may be even worse than the election denying nonsense that pops up here every few weeks like clockwork. The lack of self awareness is mind boggling.

Wiz Imp

(10,080 posts)
244. Again, the person who believed the Republicans blocked a Supreme Court nominee when they were in the minority
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 03:28 PM
Yesterday

and believes Obama could have appointed a Supreme Court Justice during a non-existent recess is accusing others of denying reality. Wow, Wow, Wow!!! I've never seen anything like this. And yet you continue to dig your hole deeper and deeper. Some advice: quit while you're behind.

tritsofme

(19,916 posts)
241. You haven't elucidated anything that could have reasonably been "tried." You're just selling magic beans.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 03:21 PM
Yesterday

Wiz Imp

(10,080 posts)
164. Republicans were in the MAJORITY when they blocked the Supreme Court nomination
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 01:02 PM
Yesterday

They did not do it in the minority. It would help if you had your facts correct.

betsuni

(29,108 posts)
166. Republicans controlled the senate, had the majority in 2015.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 01:04 PM
Yesterday

"When McConnell's Republicans took over the Senate majority in 2015, McConnell slowed confirmation of Obama's judicial nominees to a historic low. ... Obama's nominee, Merrick Garland, never got a hearing. Most Republican senators refused to even meet him."

Dana Milbank, "The Destructionists"

mcar

(46,114 posts)
212. IIRC, in the runup to the 2016 GE
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 02:28 PM
Yesterday

those of us who supported HRC were told by people on the far left that SCOTUS was not important and that they would vote their "conscience" and vote against "warmonger" Hillary.

lees1975

(7,081 posts)
193. Look it up.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 01:58 PM
Yesterday

Remember DACA? Blocked while there was a Dem majority. Border security, remember that one? Look at the struggle to get the ACA passed, with all kinds of amendments that basically was a very weak resemblance of what was originally proposed. Hardly any fiscal or budget proposal of Obama got through intact. That's Obama.

Biden? Immigration reform, his border security bill, never passed a budget without CR, decapitated a lot of the infrastructure bill, health care reform, gun rights bills, environmental protection.

And when breaking the filibuster was proposed, Biden, an long time veteran of the Senate, said no.

Actually, there was not one Biden proposal that made it through Congress without an amendment, addition or subtraction, so it's not 80%, it's 100%.

And it all could have been resolved if someone had the courage to break that filibuster, amend the judiciary act and pack the court. That's the kind of bold, risk taking courage I'm looking for.

So politely, you are mistaken.

Prairie Gates

(8,229 posts)
9. Seriously! Listen, I'm the last person to be on a "Let's look at Dems" rant
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:22 AM
Yesterday

But if a time ever called for the Dems to call a goddamn press conference with everyone in the damn room, this is it.

Where the fuck is everybody while Trump blathers away like a crazy person?????

Prairie Gates

(8,229 posts)
34. They are free agents and can go where they want
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:38 AM
Yesterday

Apparently, they want to be nowhere while this is all happening.

Quite the statement for the midterms.

TBF

(36,779 posts)
81. You are telling me the dems can impeach the president while
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:17 AM
Yesterday

congress has been sent home by the Speaker of the House?

Tell me how that works.

Prairie Gates

(8,229 posts)
85. What in the world
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:19 AM
Yesterday

How did you get from "they don't have to go home" to "they can impeach the President on their own?"



At least attempt not to throw out ridiculous strawman arguments.

spanone

(141,695 posts)
13. Senator Van Hollen is speaking on MSNOW calling him unhinged.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:23 AM
Yesterday

and totally denoouncing all the shit.

Wiz Imp

(10,080 posts)
65. Yet you think a Democratic press conference is going to do what?
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:02 AM
Yesterday

Wow. Abbsolutely wow!!!

BlueMTexpat

(15,693 posts)
118. Senator Van Hollen is MY Senior Senator!
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:44 AM
Yesterday

He's doing a LOT of meaningful things!

What are YOU doing?

Wiz Imp

(10,080 posts)
125. The only thing they seem to be doing is complaining about Democrats
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:56 AM
Yesterday

while giving Republicans a free pass.

lees1975

(7,081 posts)
31. For one thing, Mark Kelly needs to re-iterate his "Illegal Orders" challenge on national television.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:37 AM
Yesterday

Use some of the nest-feathering billions that are raised for campaigns to give him fifteen minutes on national television to call this out in precise legal, international law and constitutional terms.

Use some of it to file a lawsuit blocking, on constitutional grounds, any Presidential order to bomb or take action on another country without congressional approval, then filibuster the approval that the GOP might give him in the Senate.

And yes, those things would work.

bigtree

(94,338 posts)
40. take a minute to look to see who is doing these things, and highlight them here.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:42 AM
Yesterday

...instead of positing that Democrats are standing still, which they most certainly are not.

I get fucking tired of being one of the only people on this board to go and find out what Democrats are doing and saying.

You're way off, and basically demagoging the party instead of amplifying their efforts and I think that's conterproductive and a damn shame that it's the go to at times like this.

We have numerous legislators who have responded in real time, in the media and in the courts. Again, take the time to look for those and amplify them on the platforms available to you.

tritsofme

(19,916 posts)
131. Those things would not "work" they are pure fantasy, you're pushing nonsense and faery tales
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:59 AM
Yesterday

There is no lawsuit to file that could accomplish this goal.

Ignorance isn’t an excuse to spread these sort of lies about Democrats.

Response to lees1975 (Original post)

ck4829

(37,857 posts)
26. Let's see here. Here are some ideas. And the "let's do nothing"-ists can go on by
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:33 AM
Yesterday

For Democrats in the minority:
* No shows of support, don't be a certain senator from Pennsylvania
* Holds on all nominees, vote no on all nominees
* Filibuster... EVERYTHING
* Press for impeachment and removal
* Keep the shutdown going, expand it
* No budgets, there will be no budgets approved
* Remember that Republicans were in the minority too and they caused problems. Be a problem

For us:
* Press Democrats on the above with repeated calls
* Slow down on spending, bill paying, and shopping or go without
* Jury nullification for anything not murder, sexual assault, armed robbery, things like that. Conservatives vibes law = nullify.
* Be vocal in opposing the administration and the war, silence is consent to the government and media
* Express skepticism in the war, don't spread military propaganda
* Express the truth... this war is dragging prices up, say it out loud. Be annoying.
* Put "normal life" on hold as painful as that may sound... cut back on going out, dates, movies, work, getting married, etc.

NOTICE: There is as much for us to do as Democrats in Congress.

Get busy.

ck4829

(37,857 posts)
45. If he does, he does? Trump dropping a nuke is not an excuse to not do the things I listed.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:44 AM
Yesterday

Or are you suggesting a more [REDACTED] approach?

Wiz Imp

(10,080 posts)
55. 🙄
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:56 AM
Yesterday

* No shows of support, don't be a certain senator from Pennsylvania
* Holds on all nominees, vote no on all nominees
You obviously have no clue how "holds" work. All Democrats voting no on all nominees stops none from being confirmed.

* Filibuster... EVERYTHING
Already happening

* Press for impeachment and removal
Already happening.

* Keep the shutdown going, expand it
Already happening. They can't "expand" it because the rest of the government is already funded

* No budgets, there will be no budgets approved
Budgets already approved for this fiscal year. Nothing to be accomplished until next fiscal year starting October 1

* Remember that Republicans were in the minority too and they caused problems. Be a problem
No more problems than Democrats are already causing.

For us:
* Press Democrats on the above with repeated calls
Has already been happening for 15 months.

* Slow down on spending, bill paying, and shopping or go without
Wow. Destroy your own life and credit to accomplish nothing. Great advice.

* Jury nullification for anything not murder, sexual assault, armed robbery, things like that. Conservatives vibes law = nullify.
Wow. just wow.

* Be vocal in opposing the administration and the war, silence is consent to the government and media
Has been happening for 15 months

* Express skepticism in the war, don't spread military propaganda
You really think this applies to people on DU? I'd venture that 99.999% of users here are already doing this.

* Express the truth... this war is dragging prices up, say it out loud. Be annoying.
See previous entry.

* Put "normal life" on hold as painful as that may sound... cut back on going out, dates, movies, work, getting married, etc.
Wow. just wow.

ck4829

(37,857 posts)
67. When and how did we become so weak?
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:03 AM
Yesterday

The country and people of the Revolutionary War, the Underground Railroad, the Labor Rights Movement, the Suffragists, the Civil Rights Movement, the Gay Rights Movement, and Black Lives Matter reduced to... this.

Wow.

I also didn't just materialize these suggestions out of thin air. They are based on the work of Gene Sharp.

Here is From Dictatorship to Democracy:
https://www.nonviolent-conflict.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/FDTD7.pdf

bigtree

(94,338 posts)
30. as if we care about this more than them
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:37 AM
Yesterday

...should have voted them in a majority to be able to legislate our way out of this.

Now there's this bullshit pleading with them to do what?

What power do you imagine the minority party has to thwart the party in control of ALL branches of government, including the justice dept, the SC, and the military.

I'd really like to know, and I'm more than certain the people you're expecting to roil the last election and jump into the leadership would also like to know.

lees1975

(7,081 posts)
36. Quite a bit of power to thwart, judging from how well the Republicans have done it when they were the minority.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:39 AM
Yesterday

Look at their blockade record when Obama and Biden had majorities in both houses. And you are saying we can't do that?

I call bullshit.

Wiz Imp

(10,080 posts)
43. You seem to think Republicans accomplished a hell of a lot more in the minority
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:44 AM
Yesterday

than they actually did.

lees1975

(7,081 posts)
71. Look at their record.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:11 AM
Yesterday

We still do not have single payer, universal health care, because of their minority blockades.

Wiz Imp

(10,080 posts)
233. Not republican priority legislation. Must pass legislation.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 02:53 PM
Yesterday

No different than what happened when the roles were reversed . (of course you're aware that Democrats passed budgets with Republican votes when Republicans were in the minority, right?) Try again. You already failed because you claimed Democrats voted for the big beautiful bill.

bigtree

(94,338 posts)
62. that fallacy is old and tired
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:00 AM
Yesterday

...

Comparing the Democratic party to the republican cult is one thing, but supposing as if the present majority has some unseen power to thwart reality just because we stamp our feet is the height of sophistry.

Tell everyone who asked you on this thread how Dems are actually able to do more than the protesting they are doing now with every lever of democracy and law they have available to their minority.

Take a minute to highlight those efforts by the party and give some indication you know where the actual obstacles are.

Hollering at Dems to 'do something' is an old and worn-out canard. Republicans rolled Democrats on SOME legislation using turncoats like Manchin and Sinema in a razor-slim majority.

No such republican turncoats have revealed themselves as having enough courage to buck their party in this session; at least not enough to overcome the numbers needed for Democrats to effectively advance legislative soultions.

And you pointed to the courts as if you can't see what the rest of the nation is witnessing with the maga majority on the SC standing as the ultimate decider after two parties and myriad lower courts rule.

This isn't some slam dunk. If it was, our Democrats would have already solved it.

They have been working hard to hold republicans accountable, all throughout this crisis and before (with many successes), and you should acknowledege that instead of representing the party as flat-footed and unconcerned on something they care deeply about.


bigtree

(94,338 posts)
84. and there it is
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:18 AM
Yesterday

...the utter unseriousness of this complaint.

One minute outraged, the next, guffawing at responses.

Completely unserious, and utterly banal.

Kid Berwyn

(24,496 posts)
180. Democratic leaders could use their voices to lead an opposition.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 01:28 PM
Yesterday

Who knows? The part of the public who don't support insane NAZI gangster pedophiles making war on innocent people might hear something other than "Oh. There's nothing we can do!"

mcar

(46,114 posts)
214. Yes, we could have had not one but two strong, qualified women
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 02:32 PM
Yesterday

But one, to some, was a "warmonger" and the other a "killer."

Chasstev365

(7,851 posts)
33. For those who think the Democratic Party should do nothing, explain to me why this would be wrong:
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:38 AM
Yesterday

As I stated earlier, at minimum, there should be a leadership press conference declaring the president of the United States is clinically insane and we are all in grave danger. He needs to be removed NOW! If it's the truth, why are they afraid to publicly state it?

Trump is the ultimate "Emperor's New Clothes"; Trump is not unhinged, he's fucking insane and millions of lives may be at stake. I hope it will be another TACO, but silence us cowardice.

lees1975

(7,081 posts)
46. Maybe not. But a leadership press conference with a court order stopping the President until Congress approves
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:49 AM
Yesterday

with every Democrat in Congress standing behind it would certainly move public pressure. If Democrats aren't willing to come back early from their two week easter vacation during a real crisis like this then we've lost it anyway.

It will take turning attention away from all the campaign fund raising nest feathering to get anything accomplished. Why Democrats can't do the kind of damage to the GOP agenda that they did when Obama and Biden had congressional majorities is beyond me, it's a whiny-baby excuse. It can be done but not by sitting at home saying tsk tsk tsk. Someone actually has to DO something. And as far as I'm concerned, when that person or people actually DO something, they get my vote.

ITAL

(1,341 posts)
63. That court order
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:02 AM
Yesterday

Would likely never come - federal courts almost never weigh in on the legality of military maters. I'm not saying it couldn't be tried, but I'd give it a very low chance of working. Even then, it's a given it'd be appealed to the Supreme Court almost immediately if it went against Trump (when does he not appeal?) and they'd almost assuredly put a stay on the court order until they took up the mater...then proceed to sit on it for a few months.

ITAL

(1,341 posts)
80. You misunderstand
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:17 AM
Yesterday

The Supreme Court would put a stay on the hypothetical Court Order saying he couldn't bomb Iran without authorization or whatever it it did exactly, until the they ruled. Then they'd sit on it for awhile.

lees1975

(7,081 posts)
201. If the first court issued a stay, the supreme court sitting on it just extends the stay unless they remove it.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 02:03 PM
Yesterday

I doubt they'd hear it.

tritsofme

(19,916 posts)
205. No court is going to issue such a stay to begin with. This frame is completely divorced from reality.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 02:08 PM
Yesterday

lees1975

(7,081 posts)
217. Actually if a court issues the order, it is enforceable until it is stayed.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 02:36 PM
Yesterday

Stops the immediate action. Beyond that, it says someone is doing something instead of tsk tsk tsk and whining that we can't do anything because we are not in the majority. Tired of that crap.

tritsofme

(19,916 posts)
226. Yes, if a court issued that order. That's the fantasy part.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 02:45 PM
Yesterday

If Congress passed a law banning gravity, it would be enforceable until stayed or repealed.

Again, this entire frame is delusional.

Wiz Imp

(10,080 posts)
236. It's incredibly depressing to read such nonsense fact-free fantasy on DU.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 02:58 PM
Yesterday

Thanks for trying to educate them, though they clearly don't care about reality.

ITAL

(1,341 posts)
245. I didn't say a Federal Court would issue a stay
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 03:28 PM
Yesterday

The argument was if the Federal Court made a ruling...the Supreme Court would stay THAT ruling.

BannonsLiver

(20,640 posts)
177. For those who think the party should "stop this" act
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 01:25 PM
Yesterday

Explain to me how the fuck that would happen. 😉

Rebl2

(17,768 posts)
37. They
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:40 AM
Yesterday

are vacationing just like republicans. We didn’t hire them to take multiple two week vacations every year. Time to cut back on all the time off they take.

lostincalifornia

(5,377 posts)
44. Stop with the bullshit. FIrst of all, Democrats aren't the majority party right now, because enough Americans thought
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:44 AM
Yesterday

January 6 wasn't enough to VOTE DEMOCRATIC.

Second, Congress isn't even in session.

The DEMOCRATS tried to impeach him twice to prevent exactly what we are going through, but it isn't because of the Democrats that failed, but the republicans.

Third, there are plenty of Democrats who have been speaking out on this, but when you are the minority party, thanks to the STUPIDITY of too many Americans who either voted for trump, or didn't vote, there isn't much can do without some republicans on board, and that just isn't there because the whole republican party is just as unhinged as trump.

hay rick

(9,623 posts)
48. What is your idea of how DEMOCRATS can stop him?
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:51 AM
Yesterday

How about Republicans in positions of power and military officials in positions of responsibility pitching in? But Democrats have special powers or a singular responsibility? Neutralizing this rabid motherfucker should be an all non-traitor Americans' responsibility.

DonCoquixote

(13,966 posts)
50. This may get me banned
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:51 AM
Yesterday

but the answer to your question, they are scared of losing Isreali money.

bigtree

(94,338 posts)
76. NO, THEY ARE NOT ALL ON VACATION
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:15 AM
Yesterday

...simply false.

Democratic lawmakers are escalating their response to President Donald Trump's Easter post threatening strikes on Iranian infrastructure, with some openly questioning his fitness for office and raising the possibility of removal.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trumps-expletive-laden-iran-threat-103255716.html

Many congressional Democrats call Trump's threats to blow up Iran 'unhinged'
https://abcnews.com/Politics/congressional-democrats-call-trumps-threats-blow-iran-unhinged/story?id=131769484

Fullduplexxx

(8,627 posts)
56. Anyone demanding the Democrats do something please tell us what the Democrats can do to stop this
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:56 AM
Yesterday

lees1975

(7,081 posts)
88. For starters, show some interest by stopping your vacation and caucusing in DC.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:22 AM
Yesterday

Is that too much to ask? Seems so, from some people here.

demmiblue

(39,759 posts)
58. MAKE.SOME.FUCKING.NOISE.FFS.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:58 AM
Yesterday

Get back to D.C. and make yourselves visible. Start some good trouble!

I don’t give a flying fuck if it accomplishes nothing. You need to lead and be seen. OMG.

crud

(1,267 posts)
66. It's up to us democrats to show up
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:02 AM
Yesterday

by the hundreds of thousands to the White House and not leave until he is gone. I don't think the military will obey his orders to attack the crowd. This will be the only way he is removed.

He won't resign, he won't be impeached, because it is obvious that he will cancel the midterms, and the courts will be unable to stop this. So it will be decided in the streets.

lees1975

(7,081 posts)
91. Why is that my job? Why can't elected Democrats in Congress do that?
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:24 AM
Yesterday

At least, come back from vacation and caucus and decide where they're going with this.

Too many whiny-baby excuses, not enough action.

TBF

(36,779 posts)
263. It's not your "job" to attack republicans - is that what you just said?
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 06:56 PM
21 hrs ago

So, riddle me this. Why is it your job to attack democrats?

TBF

(36,779 posts)
252. It sure is - I tried to point out that the Republicans
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 03:51 PM
Yesterday

are the majority party in every way, and I was attacked for it. It makes you wonder about the motivation about certain people doing the attacking.

Had to start up my ignore list again, after emptying it out a couple days ago.

lees1975

(7,081 posts)
86. I just love the excuses that come out here whenever Democratic leadership is asked to display courage, take a risk and
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:19 AM
Yesterday

do something that shows some kind of united front against a major injustice that a renegade President is perpetrating.

I did not vote for people to go to Congress or to the state legislature to sit on their hands, plan and prep for their next election and fill a seat in a safe, predictable way. I expect them to represent my interests and the interests of those who elected them. And I have seen how this government works, and how Republicans have thwarted the desires of Presidents Clinton, Obama and Biden by using their minority status tools.

We've got to decide here if Trump really is a threat to American Democracy, and if he is, to do something about it. And that doesn't mean nest feathering campaign fundraising banquets and trips while this war crisis is going on. The Democrats are not actually going to win the mid-terms, the Republicans are going to lose it. My expectations here are high and I won't let politicians hide behing the "sorry, can't do anything, we are the minority" bullshit any longer. Do something to show you also believe, as I do, that Trump is an existential threat to Democracy.

SomedayKindaLove

(1,189 posts)
143. Maybe instead of just calling Trump names
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 12:33 PM
Yesterday

Every elected Dem should be demanding Trump’s cabinet evoke the 25th Amendment?

So far the only people I see calling for that are MTG, Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones.

mcar

(46,114 posts)
222. And yet you sneered at the fact that Sen Van Hollen
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 02:39 PM
Yesterday

had spoken on MS NOW. And at Sen Kelly's remarks.

FascismIsDeath

(193 posts)
104. "Courage" is a meaningless word that people throw around when they don't have an effective action to suggest.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:33 AM
Yesterday

"Just show courage".

How about YOU just show that you have the ability to count to 218 and 67. Do you have enough "courage" to illustrate that ability?

orangecrush

(30,498 posts)
109. Sorry I'm 69 years old
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:38 AM
Yesterday


I've seen a lot, too much perhaps, and I'm still a long way from being ready to crawl up my own ass and die.

Thank you for your concern for this matter.

lees1975

(7,081 posts)
209. How about actually doing something with some risk, knowing exactly what needs to be done?
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 02:18 PM
Yesterday

We had a majority in both houses between 2021 and 2023 and what was accomplished during that time regarding trying the criminal on the over 90 indictments he had against him? I can certainly show Merrick Garland as an example of weakness in this regard, along with the fact that the President wouldn't push him. There is no argument that can be made to justify that gross negligence. Had he got a move on, and actually did his job, Trump would not be where he is now.

There were a lot of Democrats calling for the removal of the filibuster, used so effectively by the GOP to block most, and yes the record shows most, of Biden's agenda. Did his immigration reform bill get through intact? Did his border security bill? How much of the infrastructure bill was lopped off before it passed through? Uh huh.

Nuking the filibuster would have been followed by the packing of the Supreme Court. Majority votes in both houses would have amended the judiciary act to create enough new justice positions to give Biden the chance to appoint progressive judges who would have overturned Citizens United, restored Roe, overturned Presidential immunity and over-rode the blockades his attorneys put up which slowed down his criminal cases regarding the documents and Jan 6, or one judge could simply pick up the case. And yes, that could have happened.

So where was the courage necessary to take those steps? Huh?

tritsofme

(19,916 posts)
210. That sounds great if you are writing a fantasy script.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 02:21 PM
Yesterday

And just delusionally pretending that Manchin and Sinema didn’t exist.

MineralMan

(151,338 posts)
106. As I asked in reply #5, what, exactly, do you want them to do?
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:34 AM
Yesterday

Others have asked you the same question, to which you have made no answer.

Why is that? Because there is no good single thing that can be done by one Democrat in Congress or elsewhere that will change the course of what is going on. Not today. Not this week. Not any time soon.

That you have made no real suggestions for action is evidence that you know that there is not some solution that just needs to be implemented.

I can do nothing, personally. Nor can you. Nor can any other individual.

So, we all share your frustration. But most of us are not calling for the impossible to be done. You are, though. So, I asked for your specific suggestions. You offered none, so I can only conclude that you have none.

Wiz Imp

(10,080 posts)
138. You can see a number of people saying Democratic leadership should call a press conference.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 12:26 PM
Yesterday

which would of course accomplish nothing. And it is obvious that these same people, if a press conference were held, would still complain because it didn't accomplish anything. The only objective of people like this is to trash Democrats while giving Republicans a pass.

MineralMan

(151,338 posts)
139. Yes. My point, exactly.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 12:28 PM
Yesterday

We need to read such posts carefully and think about what motivates them. That's what I think.

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,545 posts)
259. "The only objective
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 04:06 PM
23 hrs ago

of people like this is to trash Democrats while giving Republicans a pass."

Exactly. It's crystal clear.

These "where are the Democrats???" threads are all alike. Vicious accusations of Democrats being cowards, having no spines, taking money from evil sources, on "vacation," etc., crapping on every mention of what Democrats are actually doing and have done; then the added bonus of snidely ridiculing fellow DUers: cheerleaders, posse, "not MY job!!1!1"

I mean, why can't Dems wave a magic wand and DO SOMETHING???!!!!111!!!!1!!!!!

Response to lees1975 (Original post)

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mcar

(46,114 posts)
100. Why don't you get in touch with the
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:31 AM
Yesterday

Last edited Tue Apr 7, 2026, 02:36 PM - Edit history (1)

Genocide Joe and Killer Kamala crowd and ask them why they aren’t doing something? We’re in this mess in no small part due to them.

Bettie

(19,740 posts)
101. They can't stop it
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:32 AM
Yesterday

but they can speak out about it being wrong.

I wish they would, but I doubt that they will.

Maybe one or two will raise an objection.

Bettie

(19,740 posts)
121. They can try, but we're dealing with
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:50 AM
Yesterday

an individual who is literally insane....and his party is happy with that, they will not move to stop him.

Jeez, I hate having to say this, but what are a few Democrats supposed to do to make him stop anything?

Even if he uses nuclear weapons, his party will stand behind him and say "You did real good Donny, real good!".

Bettie

(19,740 posts)
231. Saw that after I posted
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 02:51 PM
Yesterday

they still cant' change what's going to happen.

The madman is in control and has many, many enablers.

DownriverDem

(7,017 posts)
105. One more time
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:33 AM
Yesterday

It's the MAGA repubs you should be mad at. They are in control of the House and Senate. Please explain what exactly do you think the Dems can do? I'm tired of the attacks on the wrong politicians.

NoMoreRepugs

(12,121 posts)
112. Majority of Americans get their news/info from the BillionaireBoyzClub controlled social media sites. What
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:39 AM
Yesterday

possible message from Dems is going to overcome the algorithms UNLESS Repukes in Congress join the chorus.

Mr. Mustard 2023

(362 posts)
116. This is tired, weak and untrue.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:43 AM
Yesterday

Most Dems are fighting back and doing all they can. The corporate media won't cover them, so visit independent media and most Dems have their own social media accounts, and YouTube channels.

We're at war, and right now the Dems we have are the Dems we have, so help or at least stop whining. The Republicans are in charge of everything, so how about attacking Republicans!

Good grief.

OC375

(998 posts)
120. Society is broken, this is just the latest symptom.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:48 AM
Yesterday

We didn’t get here overnight. It will take effort to change. It could be an interesting afternoon. It’s just after 7PM in Tehran…

 

Eddie Haskell 60

(130 posts)
149. yep, that's what we ultimately need- about 17 Republicans
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 12:41 PM
Yesterday

Even if 25th invoked by cabinet (and i REALLY wish people would stop asking for this), Trump will contest it so would still need about 17 Republicans in Senate to remove.

frogstar0

(257 posts)
134. Why don't you stop them?
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 12:16 PM
Yesterday

Wave your magic wand and poof all will be right in the world.

Like others I am really tiered of this why don’t the democrats stop this.
Because we need the votes.
Because we did not get the votes last election.
Please do not get into why we did not get the votes just stay with here and now.
We need the votes.
So how do we get the votes?
Not by pushing the dems do nothing trope.
We get it by planting seeds in independent and maga’s minds.
We do the very very very hard work of slowly, carefully planting the seeds that will sprout in a few minds.
We do it by turning one, or two people we know.
Every voter we turn, is two votes gained.

orangecrush

(30,498 posts)
146. Well, you've been here since 2004
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 12:36 PM
Yesterday

And with 257 posts, if you made one to make this point, it's worth considering.

CuriousSavage

(38 posts)
194. Just another low post count, long time lurker chiming in
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 01:59 PM
Yesterday

Every day we are faced with a new affront to our country and values. I am having trouble splitting my molten disgust between the republicans and the multitude of citizens that have completely tuned out. I can not have the lightest discussion about political topics anymore with anyone, even my spouse. It is too much for them to process so they shut down and start scrolling facebook or instagram.... I have never felt more alone.

I think this entire thread boils down to something that we ALL here can agree on: we appear to be on the doorstep of a catastrophe that will require many generations to recover from, if at all. Our children's children will be affected. If that's the case, it is not unreasonable to expect the people we elected to actually represent us. They have a much more effective platform than any of us, if they choose to use it. Some are, as mentioned in the responses, but this crisis calls for more.

TBH, I know that there is so much that I personally should be doing. I did not attend No Kings. I haven't called my officials 1000x. I am not complacent, but I suppose that I am part of the problem too. Fair enough. That said, our democratic representatives know that the great majority of the country and the world is against this war. They know that we are all facing economic hardship. They have big hopes for November but the next election is not guaranteed. I donated and voted for them to be my voice and not my weak sauce Vichy representative.

If this exact moment is not the time to burn some of that "dry powder" they've preserved for so long, then when is?

karin_sj

(1,372 posts)
135. They need to appear anywhere and everywhere
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 12:19 PM
Yesterday

Democratic, Independent, and sane Republican politicians need to be on every single TV network en masse, on the radio, on YouTube, press conferences in front of the White House, etc. They need to conduct town halls in every city they can, and wherever they can find an audience. They need to talk about how insane he is, how dangerous and immoral this is, and how the 25th amendment needs to be enacted. Anyone who has an audience should be speaking up about this as well. This is a dire emergency and I hope to God something is happening behind the scenes to stop this madman (although I don't have a lot of hope).

MW67

(179 posts)
137. If they had a backbone
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 12:24 PM
Yesterday

They would run the mid terms campaigns on," If you elect us to power in both houses we will shut all this insanity down with a well deserved impeachment and removal", I believe it would be a winning message, they should at least be getting every opponent to answer " Do you support what the President is doing"? I see nothing,matter of fact I hear a lot of talk about taking up maga positions and talking points, readying to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory again

camartinwv

(150 posts)
140. The Republicans can't even stop him. Donny, the criminally insane, is not playing by the rules.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 12:28 PM
Yesterday

I don’t know what you expect minority Democrats to do.

Response to camartinwv (Reply #140)

 

Eddie Haskell 60

(130 posts)
141. There are some Dems (including leaders) who enjoy war porn
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 12:32 PM
Yesterday

We all know Dems don't have the power but they should be demanding every day in front of cameras to exercise their War Powers as required by the Constitution. It seems many are slow-walking their opposition to war because they don't want to upset their AIPAC donors.

betsuni

(29,108 posts)
142. Episode 3,214 of the "Where Are Democrats, Why Don't They Stop Republicans?" show: THE 80%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 12:33 PM
Yesterday
145. This entire thread is indicative of WHY Dems can't
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 12:35 PM
Yesterday

We’re too diverse. To the point that we become DIVISIVE.
NOW isn’t the time that we act like freaking clowns and fight amongst ourselves.
Face the reality of the situation. Kicking and screaming will NOT change the behavior of these evil people. Only fuel what they want-> make “liberals” seethe..We hafta realize that.

Response to MuchBetterThanThis (Reply #145)

 

Eddie Haskell 60

(130 posts)
153. Saying we're divisive is divisive
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 12:43 PM
Yesterday

I'm pretty sure we ALL have the same goals. Just different opinions on how to get there.

NNadir

(38,122 posts)
270. Wouldn't it be wonderful if we could all be Democrats just like you?
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 07:42 AM
8 hrs ago

Regrettably we can't.

They do monolithic cult thinking on their side, which is why the people who buy into the cult end up paying the price.

orangecrush

(30,498 posts)
165. Reconvene
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 01:04 PM
Yesterday

Come back to DC and conduct shadow session, even if they are locked out.

At least it would get the press to cover it and underscore the gravity of the situation.

EarlG

(23,658 posts)
188. Does the gravity of the situation need underscoring?
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 01:45 PM
Yesterday

This morning, the whole world witnessed the President of the USA say that he was going to kill an entire civilization.

Are there really large swaths of people out there who need to see a Democratic Party press conference before they understand how bad this is?

 

Eddie Haskell 60

(130 posts)
202. there's a large swath that has no clue what's going on
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 02:05 PM
Yesterday

My wife isn't into politics and she never heard of Epstein until I told her about it a couple of months ago. And I just told her about TACO this morning.

Scrivener7

(59,606 posts)
204. Of course it does! Are you kidding? And yes, there are large swaths
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 02:07 PM
Yesterday

of the country who don't have a clue what we are doing! And yes. A unified and constant press effort might reach some of them.

Certainly more than a couple of guys tweeting and the rest staying quiet at home.

No. The whole world didn't hear that. Only the small group that pays attention to politics. It is the job of the opposition party to oppose, and to get that message to as many as they can.

EarlG

(23,658 posts)
221. If people are so checked out that
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 02:39 PM
Yesterday

they didn’t hear about Trump saying he is going to kill an entire civilization at 8pm, is it going to make any difference to those people if Democrats hold a “shadow session” (whatever that may be)?

It seems to me that our most effective communicators are already doing their thing right now, on social media and in other venues. I’m not sure that holding a shadow session is going to achieve anything useful. In fact it would probably just spur another round of complaints. “Why are they standing around giving speeches in Washington instead of doing anything useful?”

Scrivener7

(59,606 posts)
228. I don't know what a shadow session is, and I don't think
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 02:48 PM
Yesterday

that's what anyone is talking about.

Every congressperson has a few media contacts. If they don't they don't get elected. We should have a unified statement, and every Democrat should be putting out the same statement to every one of their media contacts.

Remember Benghazi? It was a script. Every one of them recited it at every appearance and opportunity. I never watch or read right wing sources, but I sure was aware of the bullshit republican Benghazi message.

Messaging and framing do matter. We should do it.

EarlG

(23,658 posts)
232. The post of mine that you replied to
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 02:53 PM
Yesterday

was a reply to a post about a shadow session, which is what I was commenting on.

Aside from that, as mentioned, I’ve seen lots of Dems out there today blasting Trump and the Republicans, and they all seem to be pretty much on the same page.

Scrivener7

(59,606 posts)
249. Having seen only a handful of statements this morning, I went looking for what you are seeing.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 03:46 PM
Yesterday

I see that both houses have released statements in the last couple of hours, Hakeem has made a good showing, and more are chiming in.

Glad to see it.

I do think an outcry from our leaders is a worthwhile action to attempt to prevent untold thousands of murders committed in your name and mine.

EarlG

(23,658 posts)
257. I agree with you that they should be speaking out, and it is good to see them doing so
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 03:59 PM
Yesterday

I'm not arguing for a "do nothing" position, merely pointing out that a) some of the suggestions in this thread for what they should be doing aren't really practical or useful, and b) they are already doing things. I feel like there is sometimes a bit of a kneejerk reaction to simply assume that Dems are doing and/or saying nothing, and to start attacking them before checking to see what is actually going on.

I appreciate you taking the time to look further, and your responses to my posts.

Scrivener7

(59,606 posts)
258. If we get through today without having a genocide on our hands, I still say the
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 04:01 PM
23 hrs ago

Democrats need to pony up for a bot farm and a good PR team.

But that's for after we find out if we are the new axis of evil.

Response to EarlG (Reply #221)

Kid Berwyn

(24,496 posts)
160. Great question.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 12:55 PM
Yesterday

From what I can tell, the Democratic Party leaders are standing behind Bibi Netanyahu, in shame.

maxsolomon

(38,802 posts)
168. Where are the Greens that will stop him?
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 01:09 PM
Yesterday

Where are the SWPs that will stop him?

Why doesn't "The Media" stop him?

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,545 posts)
171. MAGAt Republicans can't even stand up to Piggy about their shoe sizes.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 01:16 PM
Yesterday

But Democrats.....blah blah blah.

bluestarone

(22,237 posts)
208. You do realize that Democrats are not just fighting TSF, but the House, the Senate and sometimes the supreme court.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 02:18 PM
Yesterday

Let's also add the DOJ, the FBI, the delaying decisions from right wing courts. Could name things they should do that they can do to get your approval? Just name like 5 things ok? Hell, it's gonna take real honest true blooded Americans to do what needs to be done. Our only hope is November's election.THEN is when all hell should break loose. Never before has these monster rethugs done what they are doing today. They are really ganging up on our Constitution. OUR time will come to show support for our America!! Will YOU be there? I hope so!!

Indykatie

(3,869 posts)
213. Just How Would the Democrats Stop Him?
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 02:30 PM
Yesterday

Too often Dems ask why our politicians can't stop Trump. They have no power in DC but that doesn't mean anything apparently. I think this fuels much of the dissatisfaction with our Dem politicians.

mcar

(46,114 posts)
227. BTW, I just spent 5 minutes on Bluesky and saw a bunch of elected Democrats
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 02:48 PM
Yesterday

calling for the 25th Amendment, calling for Trump's removal.

5 minutes. Maybe you should have tried that before you posted this - but I kind of think you've gotten the reaction you wanted.

snot

(11,836 posts)
229. I see no reason why we shouldn't all be panicking.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 02:48 PM
Yesterday

I've called every congresscritter who represents me and a few that don't, and I hope everyone here is doing the same.

Bread and Circuses

(2,112 posts)
237. Writing letters and offering words
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 03:04 PM
Yesterday

Very few wil risk their own necks.

Afraid, Weak, Ineffective.

ecstatic

(35,085 posts)
240. Yeah this is the time to be vocal even if it doesn't do anything
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 03:15 PM
Yesterday

That's the part that some politicians still don't understand. I get that you feel there's nothing you can do but we need to at least hear you saying something.

Strongly.

And not hedging or weighing carefully whether tRump is a criminal or not.

Silence is disgusting and it suggests complicity.

LetMyPeopleVote

(180,183 posts)
246. Here are statements from the House and Senate Democrats
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 03:30 PM
Yesterday

After Trump wrote, in reference to Iran, “A whole civilization will die tonight,” the entirety of the House Democratic leadership issued this joint statement:

Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2026-04-07T17:01:15.516Z

As it turns out, it's not just House Dems: Leading Senate Democrats also issued a joint statement responding to Trump's stated plans to destroy "a whole civilization" tonight:

Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2026-04-07T18:41:16.159Z

lees1975

(7,081 posts)
251. Credit where credit is due, I am happy to see this. This is exactly where the starting point is.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 03:50 PM
Yesterday
https://jeffries.house.gov/2026/04/07/house-democratic-leadership-statement-on-donald-trumps-threat-to-kill-a-whole-civilization/

Today, House Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries, Democratic Whip Katherine Clark, Democratic Caucus Chair Pete Aguilar, Democratic Caucus Vice Chair Ted Lieu, Assistant Democratic Leader Joe Neguse and DCCC Chair Suzan DelBene released the following statement:

Donald Trump is completely unhinged. His statement threatening to eradicate an entire civilization shocks the conscience and requires a decisive congressional response. The House must come back into session immediately and vote to end this reckless war of choice in the Middle East before Donald Trump plunges our country into World War III.

For years, Republicans have enabled and excused Donald Trump’s deeply dangerous and extreme behavior. Enough is enough. Our brave men and women in uniform have been put into harm’s way in the Middle East. Over a dozen have already been killed and hundreds injured. Gas prices are skyrocketing, the cost of living in America is out of control and billions of taxpayer dollars are being wasted on a reckless war of choice.

It’s time for House Republicans to put patriotic duty over party loyalty and join Democrats in stopping this madness.

TBF

(36,779 posts)
256. See below - one of the democratic reps also filed Articles of Impeachment.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 03:58 PM
Yesterday

So you can stop blaming fellow democrats now.

no_hypocrisy

(54,982 posts)
253. Possibly the forbearance of the Democrats could be
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 03:52 PM
Yesterday

fear of reverse psychology.

IOW:

1. If they appear challenging, it would encourage Trump to do what he's threatened. (His staff rhetorically saying, "Are you going to let them get away with talking to you (and to the public about you) like that?

2. Democrats become the proxy of Iran.

3. The more you tell Trump not to do something, the more he wants to do it. (Who's your Daddy?)

TBF

(36,779 posts)
254. You can stop blaming democrats now - here is your action
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 03:55 PM
Yesterday

Articles of Impeachment have been filed by a democratic rep from Connecticut - read here: https://democraticunderground.com/100221155161

Redleg

(6,929 posts)
260. Too little too late- just kidding
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 04:22 PM
23 hrs ago

This is a good start but won't likely please some of these folks who think that only Democratic officials have agency and Republicans bear no duty at all.

electric_blue68

(26,912 posts)
262. I had to do a small something. Called ( my Senator) Schumer's DC office...
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 04:57 PM
23 hrs ago

I told the staffer I know we're in the minority..
Still, could Schuner and a few other Dems could hold a press conference to say how insane and wrong about what Trump said.
She said (I'd forgotten) they're on recess.
I said they still coud hold it - to officially The American People how they feel.

Had to say something!

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