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ShazzieB

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69. I learned something new today!

Sun Mar 15, 2026, 06:17 PM

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For some reason, I never made the connection between the word Homeland and Nazi Germany until now. The term I've always associated with Nazi Germany is Fatherland (Vaterland in German).

However, I just did some googling and got a a plethora of hits confirming this association, including this: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2026/02/nazi-propaganda-trump-white-house-dhs-kristi-noem-social-media/

So yeah, count me with those who would like the U.S. to stop using this term!

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STOP with the Homeland crap. We are the UNITED STATES ! [View all] 4bonhoffer Sunday OP

DURec leftstreet Sunday #1

The homeland for this country is actually England Blues Heron Sunday #2

Well, some of my relatives were already here. txwhitedove Sunday #29

Golly Dave Id Sunday #48

I've always thought so The Blue Flower Sunday #3

The first time he used it, I was like... ybbor Sunday #19

Exactly my reaction relayerbob Sunday #22

yes, GWB ingrained this jingoism with "Dept of Homeland Security". Welcome to Bari Weiss's CBS. thesquanderer 21 hrs ago #79

Doesn't seem very "united" luv2fly Sunday #4

Homeland even predated the Germans ITAL Sunday #5

Its from the 1660s The Revolution Sunday #53

And, sadly, it stuck Joinfortmill Sunday #56

"Die Heimat," German for The Homeland, is now the name of Germany's far-right neo-Nazi political party Ocelot II Sunday #6

Fatherland! usonian Sunday #7

Nazis used "fatherland," I thought gulliver Sunday #8

They used "die Heimat," the homeland, more frequently. Ocelot II Sunday #9

Interesting. It does seem they used both a lot. gulliver Sunday #12

I agree: PCIntern Sunday #10

Thank you I completely agree. AltairIV Sunday #11

100% CONCUR. But Hey---Dubya IS The Grandson Of Pro-Nazi Prescott. ColoringFool Sunday #13

Hear! Hear! EarthFirst Sunday #14

I hated that Nazi phrasing from its start IbogaProject Sunday #15

How about "The Fatherland" instead? Martin Eden Sunday #16

How about Motherland? BattleRow Sunday #39

Like "Mother Russia", maybe JustABozoOnThisBus Sunday #41

For a guy who nods off in meetings,amazing he still "woke". BattleRow Sunday #45

Собачий свисток Jilly_in_VA Sunday #65

And Trump said he wasn't going to learn that damn Spanish language! BattleRow Sunday #66

Too Russian. AZ8theist Sunday #43

England is the Motherland nt meow2u3 Sunday #49

Mothers would not behave like these... Martin Eden Sunday #59

Always sounded weird to me. Creepy even. paleotn Sunday #17

Kicked and recommended Uncle Joe Sunday #18

I also destest the use of ' the Heartland' to describe the rural Midwest. Even more when those living there are called Celerity Sunday #20

That was always White Supremacy dog whistle. Iggo Sunday #47

There's nothing wrong with the term as they used it. "Fatherland" would be different Callie1979 Sunday #21

See post 32. niyad Sunday #34

Still much ado about nothing. Many words weren't used 25yrs ago. Callie1979 Sunday #51

So fighting psychological manipulation and propaganda is "making niyad Sunday #61

Your words. Never considered this word anything other than what it IS. Callie1979 Sunday #63

German "fatherland" and Russia's "motherland"... both make me cringe...as "homeland" does. QueerDuck Sunday #23

Actually, the only time I don't mind the word "homeland" is in the closing lyric of Edelweiss. QueerDuck Sunday #24

I agree rhiannon55 Sunday #68

When GW McIdiot created the Department of Homeland Security I thought ... aggiesal Sunday #25

Homeland WAS Nazi Germany Clouds Passing Sunday #26

Mainland is a better term. Kablooie Sunday #27

That would exclude Alaska and Hawaii Martin Eden Sunday #62

News radio in the car. BidenRocks Sunday #28

Like a wise man once said: Dave Bowman Sunday #30

Thank you for this great post Scubamatt Sunday #31

That term is not part of American political terminology prior to Bush JHB Sunday #32

Exactly. nt SunSeeker Sunday #40

Thank you. It bugs the hell out of me as well. niyad Sunday #33

ding. this. AllaN01Bear Sunday #35

Absolutely nailed it! You connected it/us to its insidious nature. N/T slumcamper Sunday #36

I agree with your sentiment and have thought that since 9/11. llmart Sunday #37

K & R SunSeeker Sunday #38

I agree NHvet Sunday #42

I agree! Americanme Sunday #44

"Homeland Security" has been a masturbatory term for American Nazis since day one. Iggo Sunday #46

the word "homeland" has much too much garbage attached to it to make it a descriptor of the United States. patphil Sunday #50

I've felt this way since they started using it. Sickens me. Raftergirl Sunday #52

Yup, too 'Nazi like' for me. Joinfortmill Sunday #54

Next Step Is Calling It the Fatherland. MineralMan Sunday #55

I agree 100% spanone Sunday #57

If my memory serves me well The Wizard Sunday #58

Well said 4bonhoffer. flashman13 Sunday #60

Amen! Marvin Jones Sunday #64

You're right Renew Deal Sunday #67

I learned something new today! ShazzieB Sunday #69

Code word for their fellow B.See Sunday #70

I also agree Ialwaysvote Sunday #71

The Un-united States of America (hopefully, a soon to be resolved) damifino10 Sunday #72

Current criteria for primarying Dems? MorbidButterflyTat Sunday #73

I agree, never liked the word homeland, it Nazism MacKasey Yesterday #74

Kick and rec.Pure propaganda. 58Sunliner Yesterday #75

The word "national" used to work just fine! colorado_ufo Yesterday #76

It irritates me that our representatives don't strategically weaponize language like Republicans. live love laugh Yesterday #77

We haven't been the United States since fox goptv got their FCC license & billionaires were allowed to bribe politicians yaesu Yesterday #78

Agreed. I've hated the term since Dubya first started using it. Orrex 20 hrs ago #80