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gulliver

(13,940 posts)
8. Nazis used "fatherland," I thought
Sun Mar 15, 2026, 11:46 AM
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But I agree it is the same sort of jingoistic thing as "homeland." It's just one of many gifts George W. Bush gave Bin Laden and Islamism in general.

Would the citizens of the country be more united if many weren't using the word "homeland" to try to force some holier-than thou patriotism? I think so. It's similar to folks who believe themselves to be on the left using the word "unhoused" instead of "homeless." The word choices project vanity and create divisiveness. Language is important.



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DURec leftstreet Sunday #1
The homeland for this country is actually England Blues Heron Sunday #2
Well, some of my relatives were already here. txwhitedove Sunday #29
Golly Dave Id Sunday #48
I've always thought so The Blue Flower Sunday #3
The first time he used it, I was like... ybbor Sunday #19
Exactly my reaction relayerbob Sunday #22
yes, GWB ingrained this jingoism with "Dept of Homeland Security". Welcome to Bari Weiss's CBS. thesquanderer Yesterday #79
Doesn't seem very "united" luv2fly Sunday #4
Homeland even predated the Germans ITAL Sunday #5
Its from the 1660s The Revolution Sunday #53
And, sadly, it stuck Joinfortmill Sunday #56
"Die Heimat," German for The Homeland, is now the name of Germany's far-right neo-Nazi political party Ocelot II Sunday #6
Fatherland! usonian Sunday #7
Nazis used "fatherland," I thought gulliver Sunday #8
They used "die Heimat," the homeland, more frequently. Ocelot II Sunday #9
Interesting. It does seem they used both a lot. gulliver Sunday #12
I agree: PCIntern Sunday #10
Thank you I completely agree. AltairIV Sunday #11
100% CONCUR. But Hey---Dubya IS The Grandson Of Pro-Nazi Prescott. ColoringFool Sunday #13
Hear! Hear! EarthFirst Sunday #14
I hated that Nazi phrasing from its start IbogaProject Sunday #15
How about "The Fatherland" instead? Martin Eden Sunday #16
How about Motherland? BattleRow Sunday #39
Like "Mother Russia", maybe JustABozoOnThisBus Sunday #41
For a guy who nods off in meetings,amazing he still "woke". BattleRow Sunday #45
Собачий свисток Jilly_in_VA Sunday #65
And Trump said he wasn't going to learn that damn Spanish language! BattleRow Sunday #66
Too Russian. AZ8theist Sunday #43
England is the Motherland nt meow2u3 Sunday #49
Mothers would not behave like these... Martin Eden Sunday #59
Always sounded weird to me. Creepy even. paleotn Sunday #17
Kicked and recommended Uncle Joe Sunday #18
I also destest the use of ' the Heartland' to describe the rural Midwest. Even more when those living there are called Celerity Sunday #20
That was always White Supremacy dog whistle. Iggo Sunday #47
There's nothing wrong with the term as they used it. "Fatherland" would be different Callie1979 Sunday #21
See post 32. niyad Sunday #34
Still much ado about nothing. Many words weren't used 25yrs ago. Callie1979 Sunday #51
So fighting psychological manipulation and propaganda is "making niyad Sunday #61
Your words. Never considered this word anything other than what it IS. Callie1979 Sunday #63
German "fatherland" and Russia's "motherland"... both make me cringe...as "homeland" does. QueerDuck Sunday #23
Actually, the only time I don't mind the word "homeland" is in the closing lyric of Edelweiss. QueerDuck Sunday #24
I agree rhiannon55 Sunday #68
When GW McIdiot created the Department of Homeland Security I thought ... aggiesal Sunday #25
Homeland WAS Nazi Germany Clouds Passing Sunday #26
Mainland is a better term. Kablooie Sunday #27
That would exclude Alaska and Hawaii Martin Eden Sunday #62
News radio in the car. BidenRocks Sunday #28
Like a wise man once said: Dave Bowman Sunday #30
Thank you for this great post Scubamatt Sunday #31
That term is not part of American political terminology prior to Bush JHB Sunday #32
Exactly. nt SunSeeker Sunday #40
Thank you. It bugs the hell out of me as well. niyad Sunday #33
ding. this. AllaN01Bear Sunday #35
Absolutely nailed it! You connected it/us to its insidious nature. N/T slumcamper Sunday #36
I agree with your sentiment and have thought that since 9/11. llmart Sunday #37
K & R SunSeeker Sunday #38
I agree NHvet Sunday #42
I agree! Americanme Sunday #44
"Homeland Security" has been a masturbatory term for American Nazis since day one. Iggo Sunday #46
the word "homeland" has much too much garbage attached to it to make it a descriptor of the United States. patphil Sunday #50
I've felt this way since they started using it. Sickens me. Raftergirl Sunday #52
Yup, too 'Nazi like' for me. Joinfortmill Sunday #54
Next Step Is Calling It the Fatherland. MineralMan Sunday #55
I agree 100% spanone Sunday #57
If my memory serves me well The Wizard Sunday #58
Well said 4bonhoffer. flashman13 Sunday #60
Amen! Marvin Jones Sunday #64
You're right Renew Deal Sunday #67
I learned something new today! ShazzieB Sunday #69
Code word for their fellow B.See Sunday #70
I also agree Ialwaysvote Sunday #71
The Un-united States of America (hopefully, a soon to be resolved) damifino10 Sunday #72
Current criteria for primarying Dems? MorbidButterflyTat Sunday #73
I agree, never liked the word homeland, it Nazism MacKasey Yesterday #74
Kick and rec.Pure propaganda. 58Sunliner Yesterday #75
The word "national" used to work just fine! colorado_ufo Yesterday #76
It irritates me that our representatives don't strategically weaponize language like Republicans. live love laugh Yesterday #77
We haven't been the United States since fox goptv got their FCC license & billionaires were allowed to bribe politicians yaesu Yesterday #78
Agreed. I've hated the term since Dubya first started using it. Orrex Yesterday #80
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