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39. So I aked AI about the crazy
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 11:26 AM
Yesterday

According to U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio, the logic behind this "crazy" phrasing is that the U.S. chose to be the aggressor specifically to prevent a predicted attack on its own troops.
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Here is the breakdown of why the administration used this specific term:

The "Proactive" Part: The U.S. launched strikes on Iranian leadership and missile sites before any American assets had been hit.
The "Defensive" Part: Rubio argued that intelligence showed Iran had already "pre-positioned" missiles to strike U.S. bases the moment Israel began its own planned attack. By striking first, the U.S. claimed it was "defending" its personnel from an "imminent" threat.
Avoiding "Absorbing a Blow": The core of the argument is that waiting to be attacked would have resulted in "more casualties and more deaths". Rubio stated the U.S. would not "sit there and absorb a blow" when it knew a strike was coming.

Critics, including some members of Congress and international legal experts, have called this a "war of choice" disguised as defense, noting that the "imminent threat" was based on a prediction of how Iran might react to a third party (Israel).
Do you want to know more about how Congress is reacting to this "proactively defensive" justification?

Secretary of State Marco Rubio Remarks to Press
Mar 2, 2026 — SECRETARY RUBIO: There absolutely was an imminent threat, and the imminent threat was that we knew that if Iran was attacked – and...
U.S. Department of State (.gov)
U.S. embassy in Riyadh hit by drones - CNBC
Mar 2, 2026 — "We knew that if Iran was attacked, and we believed they would be attacked, that they would immediately come after us," Rubio told...
CNBC
Rubio: 'There absolutely was an imminent threat' from Iran - AOL
Mar 2, 2026 — Ashleigh Fields. Mon, March 2, 2026 at 2:59 PM PST. 0. Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Monday said Iran posed an “imminent threa...
AOL.com

Then it gets worse Even AI isn't buying the logic,.
The "Line of Immunity": Rubio also introduced a broader justification: he claimed the U.S. had to strike now because in 18 months, Iran would have reached a "line of immunity" where their missile and drone technology would be too advanced to stop. This logic suggests the U.S. should strike anyone who might become too powerful to be easily defeated in the future.

Makes us the bully - AI agrees. Redefining Aggression.

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Stratospheric genius dalton99a Yesterday #1
Soooo..if Greenland comes under attack by anyone,we should start bombing Bengus81 Yesterday #2
Rubio, "We went proactively in a defensive way." Botany Yesterday #3
And there is no way to repair this amount of stupid. joshdawg Yesterday #40
That line got me too. yellow dahlia Yesterday #43
Genuine Gibberish Botany Yesterday #53
Trump had a huge rash, so we needed a distraction Johonny Yesterday #4
Moses Mike too. They've got their story ....and they're sticking with it underpants Yesterday #5
So what you're saying is... D_Master81 Yesterday #10
Yyyyyep underpants Yesterday #11
Sounds like the plot of the movie Minority Report. surfered Yesterday #6
It really does PatSeg Yesterday #15
Indeed. yellow dahlia Yesterday #45
On some level I always thought that PatSeg Yesterday #52
Well said! yellow dahlia Yesterday #54
Such a good movie PatSeg Yesterday #57
I'm a little cynical, but. yellow dahlia Yesterday #59
I guess I'm cynical as well PatSeg Yesterday #69
Exactly. We have so much information at our fingertips. yellow dahlia Yesterday #71
Sometimes I am like a kid in a candy shop PatSeg Yesterday #74
Exactly. I was a bit of a research junkie before, now I need a self help group. yellow dahlia Yesterday #75
Ha, ha, ha! PatSeg Yesterday #77
Hill Street Blues Redux no_hypocrisy Yesterday #7
It is too early to start drinking, and I clearly have not had enough niyad Yesterday #8
I feel you orangecrush Yesterday #14
On second thought, and more reading, I thought, "so what if it is too early". niyad Yesterday #19
Coming with you! orangecrush Yesterday #22
Yayyyyyy niyad Yesterday #23
I like cinnamon pancakes orangecrush Yesterday #28
Those are good. So are the chocolate ones. niyad Yesterday #29
You're not alone PatSeg Yesterday #16
I hear you. yellow dahlia Yesterday #46
A most excellent point. There are drinking smilies, but you are correct, niyad Yesterday #49
I said recently - owning a liquor store is a safe industry, right now. yellow dahlia Yesterday #55
So very true.. niyad Yesterday #60
It's 2003 all over again D_Master81 Yesterday #9
Yes, except Trump didn't even pretend PatSeg Yesterday #21
MAGat logic BumRushDaShow Yesterday #12
It's a done deal orangecrush Yesterday #13
" ... so we hit them back first." nt eppur_se_muova Yesterday #17
Remember, Trump was the kid who invented the game of "Make the Baby Cry" to get others to throw rocks at a baby Attilatheblond Yesterday #27
I heard the story about throwing rocks. I didn't know the whole story. yellow dahlia Yesterday #47
Read that it was his mom who outed him on that one Attilatheblond Yesterday #67
Sadist, at a young age. yellow dahlia Yesterday #72
Smart people generally hide that they are smart. Stupid people don't have that option. twodogsbarking Yesterday #18
I guess you can't be a part of the regime without having flunked logic class and being an excellent liar. sinkingfeeling Yesterday #20
That's stupid with this gang has no boundaries Clouds Passing Yesterday #24
So let's make sure we have this straight: Ol Janx Spirit Yesterday #25
We attacked due to a combination of Arab money, and Epstein files. patphil Yesterday #26
George Orwell could not have stated it better. Wag Wag Wag the dog! flashman13 Yesterday #30
Marco Rubio might actually have something. chouchou Yesterday #31
Authentic trumpist jibberish... Wounded Bear Yesterday #32
How long did it take to cook up this bullshit talking point? Three,four days Bengus81 Yesterday #33
Jeezus. Joinfortmill Yesterday #34
But, but question everything Yesterday #35
5D Checkers sleroy49 Yesterday #36
I think you're right. calimary Yesterday #65
Do these people understand the words they use?? lastlib Yesterday #37
Wow. That IS stupid. mwb970 Yesterday #38
So I aked AI about the crazy Historic NY Yesterday #39
Honestly, I'd prefer not to get chatbot output in response to my posts EarlG Yesterday #41
Game on. Marcuse Yesterday #42
Can we just fire all the Murdoch republicans already? Initech Yesterday #44
"...proactively in a defensive way." Gets me - every time I see it. yellow dahlia Yesterday #48
A person has to be truly ignorant to support these clowns. CaptainTruth Yesterday #50
So no justification MW67 Yesterday #51
I see an individual who sold his soul. calimary Yesterday #56
"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit." ― W.C. Fields Totally Tunsie Yesterday #58
And he thinks he's paving, or better yet, smoothing the way for his own run. calimary Yesterday #61
The absurd is now government policy sarisataka Yesterday #62
More preemptive Republican wars in the middle east. mzmolly Yesterday #63
Wow. What logic. Figarosmom Yesterday #64
He meant to say, "Israel." Kid Berwyn Yesterday #66
This is.... MarcoZandrini Yesterday #68
Pre-taliation? AleksS Yesterday #70
"Proactive defense" -- You mean OFFENSE? Qutzupalotl Yesterday #73
A true clown car malaise Yesterday #76
.. BlueWaveNeverEnd Yesterday #78
K&R LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #79
Shouldn't their little red hats be changed to Make Israel Great Again? MIGA? Rhiagel Yesterday #80
Full victim mentality on display! Aussie105 Yesterday #81
Mission accomplished! Aussie105 23 hrs ago #82
Pooptin damifino10 20 hrs ago #83
Pre-emptive strikes are the deal of the day! Aussie105 15 hrs ago #84
Rubio didn't sell his soul to the Devil... GiqueCee 9 hrs ago #85
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