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In reply to the discussion: I would like to ask all the people who refused to vote for Hillary Clinton [View all]karynnj
(60,811 posts)However, the same could be said of 2000, where Gore actually won but the Supreme Court awarded it to Bush. While 911 would possibly still have happened, the response would have been different.
Had Kerry won in 2004, which could have happened if everyone who went out to vote for him could have easily and expeditiously voted in Ohio, he would have nominated 2 Supreme Court justices, not named Roberts and Alito. This would have changed the Citizens United decision and by 2008 the Supreme Court would have been 5/4 in our favor even counting Kennedy as conservative when he was really a swing vote.
You could even look at 2008. Clinton winning the Presidency would likely have changed history. How I don't know. I don't know if Clinton/ (rumored to be Bayh) would have passed healthcare. Would we still have ended up with 60 Senators even briefly? Would having Senator Obama available to run in a later open primary have made us stronger now?
You could even go back and consider whether 1992 could have led to a better result with a President Jerry Brown, Tom Harkin, Paul Tsongus (if he did not have cancer) or Mario Cuomo if he had opted to run. With Perot attacking as a libertarian and Bush looking very weak, it most likely was a Democratic year.
What I still can not intellectually or emotionally understand is how Trump won after everything we knew.