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FascismIsDeath

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49. Trump is a thousand times worse than W would ever even have wanted to be.

Sun Jan 4, 2026, 04:02 PM

Jan 4

I remember the fiery hatred I use to have for Bush. After Trump, that has lessened a LOT. The one things I could never forgive though was lying to the whole country to get us into war in Iraq and the torture programs his administration engaged in. And that was the only thing, in my eyes, that Trump had going for him over Bush.... after these recent actions though, I think Trump will no longer have that going for him either, making Bush better than him in every single way.

Don't get me wrong, Bush was still a terrible president with an atrocious record on foreign policy, the economy and to some extent, civil rights. He failed badly when Katrina hit but that was mostly incompetence, not intentional evil (I don't think). But he wasn't a racist. He respected our institutions. He wasn't cruel for the sake of being cruel. He wanted humane immigration reform. He valued things like fighting the AIDS epidemic in Africa. He was a dumb, run of the mill, old school conservative. Gun to head, if I had to choose 4 more years of Bush vs 3 more of Trump, I'd go with the former.

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Does any sane person believe we can survive intact as a nation for three more years? [View all] kentuck Jan 4 OP

I believe Trump is itching to drop a nuke, anywhere. C_U_L8R Jan 4 #1

Me, too. I suspect it would be on Iran and then we're really going to be in trouble. Vinca Jan 4 #4

As a child, he found joy stomping on ant hills C_U_L8R Jan 4 #13

Too bad he didn't grow up where they were fire ants raccoon Jan 4 #55

Maybe Los Angeles, New York, or Chicago. milestogo Jan 4 #20

He especially hates cities like San Francisco. red dog 1 Jan 4 #56

I think part of the reason every country on earth hasn't pursued it's own nuclear weapons is because they believed ToxMarz Jan 4 #15

I was sure he was going to do it when he got in the first time. I still think it's possible mucifer Jan 4 #52

That could be his last choice to stay in office bluestarone Jan 4 #60

I keep thinking as soon as they Tree Lady Jan 4 #61

Even people who have watched authoritarians PatSeg Jan 4 #2

It's happened even faster in the past actually LostOne4Ever Jan 4 #17

No one is coming to save us dlk Jan 4 #3

The U.S. is teetering... BH liberal Jan 4 #5

Trump is not the problem, he's only the symptom Random Boomer Jan 4 #21

Yes he is just the snake oil salesman. Irish_Dem Jan 4 #28

And that authoritarian mindset is the mindset of the oldigarchs. They must be taxed out of existence but I am not in2herbs Jan 4 #38

At this point, the symptom prevents effective addressing of the causes, and must be removed for the USA to heal 0rganism Jan 4 #40

Europe in the 1800s might be prime evidence bucolic_frolic Jan 4 #6

We need to party like it's... BH liberal Jan 4 #7

LOL popsdenver Jan 4 #24

A la Fargo? The Roux Comes First Jan 4 #54

Nah popsdenver Jan 4 #59

I did not think so edhopper Jan 4 #8

We survived 8 years of W Bluestocking Jan 4 #9

Yes, we somehow did. Katinfl Jan 4 #22

W was probably the dumbest POTUS ever, until Drumpf came along. red dog 1 Jan 4 #57

Trump is a thousand times worse than W would ever even have wanted to be. FascismIsDeath Jan 4 #49

We will not survive three more years. CrispyQ Jan 4 #10

Spot on! BH liberal Jan 4 #11

I agree with you BUT those emotions must be stronger against the olldigarchs than they are against MAGA. None of what in2herbs Jan 4 #39

I agree. What disaster awaits us? yellow dahlia Jan 4 #45

Bullies get their noses squashed. Baitball Blogger Jan 4 #12

Because if they have them DetroitLegalBeagle Jan 4 #34

I am not sure you will survive until the midterms, if there are any midterms. Bev54 Jan 4 #14

Good point. yellow dahlia Jan 4 #46

"if there are any midterms" red dog 1 Jan 4 #58

Germany survived 12 years of Hitler Kennah Jan 4 #16

No it didn't liberalgunwilltravel Jan 4 #18

Yes ... Kennah Jan 4 #31

I think you mean under 12 years... haele Jan 4 #33

I'm Not Sure RobinA Jan 4 #43

I'm not saying it will be good. Humans survived Toba. Kennah Jan 4 #50

I believe Greg_In_SF Jan 4 #19

Wish I could share your optimism. Katinfl Jan 4 #23

Pure evil.... Humanityfirst Jan 4 #25

no. balkanization is the BEST outcome for the rest of trump's life. rampartd Jan 4 #26

If putin's agent orange keeps doubling his net worth every year like he did this year by grifting he will be untouchable yaesu Jan 4 #27

We got bdamomma Jan 4 #29

"Trump is not the problem, he's only the symptom" J_William_Ryan Jan 4 #30

Define "intact" Martin Eden Jan 4 #32

Good points. yellow dahlia Jan 4 #47

I think that it is clear that the mango Malefactor can and do whatever he wants both domestically and around the globe CentralMass Jan 4 #35

It is already destroyed Soaps Jan 4 #36

The Supreme Court can make the fucker a King, but they can't fix the impending doom of his failing health. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Jan 4 #37

Other much older countries than us, have been torn apart MerryBlooms Jan 4 #41

We will be lucky if it's only 3 more years... Ferrets are Cool Jan 4 #42

Catastrophic climate change will make today's problems seem small Kaleva Jan 4 #44

Yup yellow dahlia Jan 4 #48

The nation will be intact. We will all be in the same fucking cesspit together. RockRaven Jan 4 #51

only 3 years and 2 weeks... almost there! WarGamer Jan 4 #53

I've posted here before about a former high schooler who is full fledged QAnon. hamsterjill Jan 4 #62

"ThIs iS wHAt i VOteD fOr!" Efilroft Sul Jan 4 #63

Let's see....if tump invades all these countries: Chipper Chat Jan 4 #64

I don't believe Trump will last another three years. He will be removed from office before then--- Jack Valentino Jan 4 #65

Vote while we still can. Joinfortmill Jan 4 #66