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Bluetus

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97. Yes, it is possible. Very out of character.

Tue Dec 23, 2025, 04:23 PM

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That's all that I am saying.

Let's take a different item in the news. The MAGA people were all over Minnesota this week, with a claim that the Medicaid fraud in Minnesota is "up to $9 bn."

Do we accept that just because a person said it? I hope not. We look for evidence. And we apply a :reasonableness test" to the claim. It is reasonable that, in a state that processed $18Bn in Medicaid claims, HALF of them would be fraud?

The national rate is only 5%, and that includes simple errors as well as fraud, so the actual fraud rate is something lower than 5%. Is it likely that Minnesota would have a fraud rate 10x to 20x greater than the country on average?

It is possible. But certainly not very likely, given other things we know.

Let's not be like the MAGA mob.

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