General Discussion

I do feel we misanthropic Green animal rights types are the most neutral when it comes to human wars.

Yes we are never very popular having no culture or group and mostly secretly only sympathising with the planet. We are also not particularly unpopular since we support whoever is getting clobbered more or clobbered in a specific instance. We just exist outside human war that way.

My sympathy was with Palestine in the war, because as horrific as Oct 7 was, that was in no way a proportionate response. And Palestine has been on the receiving end of unfair treatment for a long time. It wasn’t even good for Jewish people or Israel. Otoh it isn’t a reason to imply that every antisemitic attack for ever more is because of that. Nick Fuentes and MTG etc are not antiwar for any reason but antisemitism. Nor are various theocrats of any religion any good.

The dynamics of all these intragroup wars are making this accelerating nightmare worse and a gimme to these Trumpy grifters. I considered whether to shut up or not. But this is a dynamic destroying everything where it’s emotion driven for non malicious people and exploited by the war and terror machine. The war machine is controlled by various elites and the worst type of pushback is mob violence and stochastic terror like this. This fits the description of stochastic terror at any rate.

I have equal sympathy for all groups and equal lack of sympathy as well wrt violence. Really I do..it’s because I prefer animals yes but still ;-/.

King Lear comes to mind wrt the kinds of friends who support anything you do whichever group you belong to. Beware false friends. An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind..

And acts of violence should not be somehow justified and the math and numbers of this is tiresome. How about shooting for an amnesty re all intragroup hostilities at least on the left over backlash after backlash after backlash into eternity dredging up more and more history over current priorities like climate change?
No? War is better? Oh well..

I have reason to get how the internet and similar technologies manipulate emotions in the worst ways possible. Even Yasha Levine, a staunchly anti-war voice and one I respect a lot, has started focusing more on how the internet ends up stoking war rather than the reverse even when your are taking the left view. Or at least that’s how I interpreted it and it fit a thesis I had along the same lines that the disempowered persons seemingly left internet use can sometimes help the same war machine.

The point is not that having a position is bad but seeing how it manipulates reality should be understood with more sophistication than this in a web built by Palantir, Google and a bunch of defense contractors where the last thing they want is an end to any war.