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Bev54

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13. I don't mind if they are afraid to talk about it, as long as they feel shame that changes their behaviour.

Reply to summer_in_TX (Original post)

Sat Apr 12, 2025, 03:12 PM

Apr 2025

I don't have it in me anymore to baby them along.

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The Quiet Deprogramming of Trumpers Has Begun [View all] summer_in_TX Apr 2025 OP

That's a tough pill to swallow considering they are more likely upset about their money but not about anything else. chowder66 Apr 2025 #1

Yep Chi67 Apr 2025 #19

I think I can be coolly polite when trumper relatives/acquaintances engage me, but I won't engage them. CrispyQ Apr 2025 #30

I guess you didn't read the linked article? druidity33 Apr 2025 #50

Yes, I did read it and I said what I said. chowder66 Apr 2025 #56

We've arrived at peak Merica Skvngr Apr 2025 #61

For example, giving a cigarette to an ex smoker doesn't mean anything. taxi Apr 2025 #2

At this point I can't see much reason to care whether they love Trump or hate him. The damage has already Vinca Apr 2025 #3

I agree.. HorsesflyHigh Apr 2025 #7

Just keep telling them they were lied to. louis-t Apr 2025 #4

That seems like a good strategy. Blame the messenger rather than the dupe. erronis Apr 2025 #24

That's a great way to go about it! chowder66 Apr 2025 #42

I enjoy the FAFO posts as much as anyone Mountainguy Apr 2025 #5

Exactly! It comes down to which matters more, feeling morally superior femmedem Apr 2025 #11

Liberalism is the philosophy that people can change. forgotmylogin Apr 2025 #18

If the Trumpers are in search of an off ramp Alice Kramden Apr 2025 #6

Part of what enrages me is Hornedfrog2000 Apr 2025 #8

By a very well planned propaganda campaign and social media savvy. erronis Apr 2025 #26

For many, the brainwashing started with Reagan. Sky Jewels Apr 2025 #47

Don't give AKwannabe Apr 2025 #9

My sentiments exactly. Solomon Apr 2025 #63

This is why we are here JustAnotherGen Apr 2025 #10

Trump has embarrassed them Keepthesoulalive Apr 2025 #44

If an ex-trumper told me they have seen the light, birdographer Apr 2025 #12

I don't mind if they are afraid to talk about it, as long as they feel shame that changes their behaviour. Bev54 Apr 2025 #13

good luck. barbtries Apr 2025 #14

Wish we could ask them where they got their election news... SleeplessinSoCal Apr 2025 #15

Different kinds of sorry? PATRICK Apr 2025 #16

Yes. Crushed magas need to learn. Teach them. See my post #20. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2025 #22

Here's the problem. They have a button that can be pushed that will lead them down the same path. Baitball Blogger Apr 2025 #17

One of the biggest most important things we can do Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2025 #20

Thank you BdLP - that is a rich post that will take some time to digest properly. erronis Apr 2025 #29

Novel as they may be, seize all opportunities for communication. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2025 #31

No usedtobedemgurl Apr 2025 #33

Your post shows a preference for a surface analysis. It is understandable, but not productive or effective. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2025 #37

Yet you did not supply evidence to the contrary usedtobedemgurl Apr 2025 #45

You showed us the surface that we know so well. I tried deeper analysis. And you proposed no solutions Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2025 #48

No! usedtobedemgurl Apr 2025 #68

Thanks. That explains it, and I'm sorry about your traumatic experiences. I wish you well. . . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2025 #69

Thank you. H2O Man Apr 2025 #58

Do we REALLY all believe in the same things, though? ShazzieB Apr 2025 #66

Fair post. My take is that it is the same belief system +1, but the perceptions and reasoning are different Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2025 #70

Thanks for this thoughtful reply! ShazzieB Apr 2025 #75

I'm wondering whether the one MAGA cultist in my band is still in love with trump. mwb970 Apr 2025 #21

While Trump and Musk PATRICK Apr 2025 #25

Take care and thank you. Joinfortmill Apr 2025 #23

K&R. Dave Bowman Apr 2025 #27

While I agree we should welcome those who have "seen the light", I wouldn't trust them until they prove they can change. HeartsCanHope Apr 2025 #28

I married an (ex) evangelical and we shared some good times - until she found her bejesus again. erronis Apr 2025 #34

Thank you for this validation. HeartsCanHope Apr 2025 #39

People have a need for direction and a certain amount of control of the world around them. Unfortunately chowder66 Apr 2025 #43

"Trust but verify" as Reagan said. summer_in_TX Apr 2025 #84

I'm still bailing on the family 4th of July picnic. Mblaze Apr 2025 #32

I tead an article a couple of years ago WinstonSmith4740 Apr 2025 #35

Good luck,... hope you can mend the fence with your boys. magicarpet Apr 2025 #36

Thank you! summer_in_TX Apr 2025 #65

Post removed Post removed Apr 2025 #38

Tough but necessary IbogaProject Apr 2025 #40

The answer here (and all along)... BurnDoubt Apr 2025 #41

They are going to have to put some pants on... LuvLoogie Apr 2025 #46

all that bdamomma Apr 2025 #49

Nope, they're loving this Tickle Apr 2025 #51

Am I wrong for feeling like Resistance1 Apr 2025 #52

Am I wrong for the way that I feel? Resistance1 Apr 2025 #53

I suspect most of them will never vote for D. They're still going to vote for R but just another one. Meowmee Apr 2025 #54

Excuse me, but we're to blame for them voting for republicans? . Bread and Circuses Apr 2025 #55

Sorry, this isn't about some silly spat. Progressive dog Apr 2025 #57

I sort of get the let's reach out to them and convert them thing... Dem4life1970 Apr 2025 #59

I have a hard time empathizing with many of these types... EarthFirst Apr 2025 #60

With the shit they have shoved down my throat? William769 Apr 2025 #62

Nothing will change while Fox News is still operational. tavernier Apr 2025 #64

In trying to imagine my own reaction if the enormity of my mistake was beginning to hit me but I summer_in_TX Apr 2025 #67

It's explaining to a vampire that the person it just ate wasn't lunch... mikelewis Apr 2025 #71

When does the loud reprogramming start? Iggo Apr 2025 #72

Because being nice has been working so well... hay rick Apr 2025 #73

No, no, no Cirsium Apr 2025 #74

I have to agree blubunyip Apr 2025 #79

Well said Cirsium Apr 2025 #81

They were hateful racist classist misogynist bigots, right up until it hurt. Iggo Apr 2025 #80

THEY ARE NOT GOING TO WAKE UP! LT Barclay Apr 2025 #76

They'll regroup Cirsium Apr 2025 #82

Probably true blubunyip Apr 2025 #83

Neighbor down road. Duncanpup Apr 2025 #77

This is NOT happening at all . Trump has high approvals still JI7 Apr 2025 #78

There's a range of people who vote for any candidate, including Trump. summer_in_TX Apr 2025 #85