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muriel_volestrangler

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87. Ironically, that has sold 4 times as many in China as in the USA

Thu Apr 3, 2025, 05:09 PM

Apr 3

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_CT5#Sales

The problem is that Americans are hooked on SUVs and pickups. With the fuel consumption problems they bring. And pedestrian fatalities.

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There are no midsize cars made by the big threee domestic automakers. [View all] DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2 OP

Are any of the big 3s cars actually entirely made in the USA? I would be surprised if Scrivener7 Apr 2 #1

Can't tell MichMan Apr 2 #4

There was a Stellantis dealer who said the average monthly payment on a new car will be $175.00 DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2 #7

$175?? mwmisses4289 Apr 2 #13

I meant an additional $175.00. Mea culpa. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2 #20

Ah, that makes more sense. Thanks for clarifying. mwmisses4289 Apr 2 #23

Nope, unless you have 775+ score, $5k down, and it's under $20k. haele Apr 2 #14

You are missing a 1 The Madcap Apr 2 #57

Mea culpa . I expained below. An additional $175.00 DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2 #58

I know The Madcap Apr 2 #60

The Correct Answer Is No ProfessorGAC Apr 2 #41

No Polybius Apr 2 #68

Cadillac sells one DetroitLegalBeagle Apr 2 #2

Would you say Cadillac is a luxury car? DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2 #6

Given that the average price of a new car is $48,641 I would say that model is not. MichMan Apr 2 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2 #9

Cadillac is a luxury brand. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2 #17

Sure, but its still a midsized car DetroitLegalBeagle Apr 2 #11

It's not the average price of a midsize car. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2 #18

It's a luxury mid-size sedan EdmondDantes_ Apr 2 #12

This is disingenuous DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2 #19

How? ; a midsize car refers to the size, not the price. MichMan Apr 2 #21

Because it's disingenuous to insist Cadillac isn't a luxury brand. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2 #25

Did you just call the MX-5 a mid-sized sedan? flvegan Apr 2 #28

Mea Culpa. I meant the Mazda 3, "Really..." DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2 #29

Ah, makes sense. Good car the 3, though I prefer the hatchback. flvegan Apr 2 #34

I was getting confused looking up the prices of several cars. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2 #37

2025 is officially the last year. flvegan Apr 2 #62

The CT4 is a compact, not a midsize car DetroitLegalBeagle Apr 3 #83

Why, do you own one? MichMan Apr 2 #35

It's a mid sized luxury car with an attendant price DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2 #42

49k gets you the most base CT5, which is a pretty lackluster car for the money according to reviews Mountainguy Apr 3 #77

Ironically, that has sold 4 times as many in China as in the USA muriel_volestrangler Apr 3 #87

Used car prices will surge. roamer65 Apr 2 #3

This Is Why We Drive A Mercedes Benz GLE 350 - Incredible Performance - Top Notch Safety - MayReasonRule Apr 2 #5

If the prices of new parts goes way up, their LRG will only refund in store credits what you paid for them previously MichMan Apr 2 #10

Time Will Tell... Unless They Change Their Policy... Price Changes Have Been Irrelevant. I Pay For Return Shipping. MayReasonRule Apr 2 #24

It does make a difference when they changed the policy a year ago MichMan Apr 2 #39

Right On... I Appreciate The Heads Up Y'all... It's Time For Me To Do Returns And Do Maintenance MayReasonRule Apr 2 #51

People can't believe it when I tell them I pour the used oil back into the bottles and return it MichMan Apr 2 #53

I Know Right! They Look At Me Like "What The Fuck You Talkin' 'Bout Willis?!!" MayReasonRule Apr 2 #55

You mean midsize *sedans*, right? keep_left Apr 2 #15

Truth or not? ILikePie92 Apr 2 #16

AI says no. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2 #27

So Does Motortrend ProfessorGAC Apr 2 #43

AI says the parts are 65-70% US made DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2 #44

I Saw That Too ProfessorGAC Apr 2 #45

AI? ILikePie92 Apr 2 #64

I bought my current car a few years ago dsc Apr 2 #22

In any case the Malibu and Chrysler 300 have been discontinued. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2 #26

It was closer but still noticeably more pricey and frankly not as good a car dsc Apr 2 #30

Thats what I thought. At times it hard to buy American. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2 #32

It is and that is a shame dsc Apr 2 #36

Focus is a bit small and I believe it has been discontinued too. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2 #40

yep dsc Apr 2 #46

K-5s are nice. The dealer loaned me one when my Optima was in the shop. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2 #47

It is a nice car dsc Apr 2 #48

And the 10 year 100,000 mile drive train warranty is nice. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2 #49

yep it is dsc Apr 2 #52

Enjoy your car. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2 #54

I am doing that thanks dsc Apr 2 #56

My 2017 Subaru Legacy is awesome JanMichael Apr 2 #31

We have a gmc 2002, 325,000 and going strong questionseverything Apr 2 #33

I think it will go up to 200k pretty easy maybe more JanMichael Apr 2 #38

Corporate average fuel economy Jose Garcia Apr 2 #50

My new-to-me midsize Prius gets an average of slightly above 50 mpg. n/t Ms. Toad Apr 3 #75

Priuses are built in Japan Jose Garcia Apr 3 #80

Your point? Ms. Toad Apr 3 #84

This might spell the end The Madcap Apr 2 #59

I'm driving a 2017 Honda Fit I bought second hand in 2018. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2 #61

Bonus perk for manuals shanti Apr 3 #85

Hell, I don't even bother to lock it most of the time. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 3 #86

The most "American Made" mid-size sedan in the USA is the Toyota Camry. WarGamer Apr 2 #63

Not necessarily. US and Canada content is combined together per NHTSA labeling standards MichMan Apr 2 #65

Allow BYD in without tariffs, radius777 Apr 2 #66

US auto workers are just going to have to work for Chinese wages if they want to compete, right? MichMan Apr 2 #67

I'm fan of free trade, NAFTA was great IMO. radius777 Apr 2 #69

Your opinion might be different if it was your job being outsourced to China, Mexico, India or Vietnam. MichMan Apr 2 #73

They will be replaced by F*elon's robots sooner or later. Justice matters. Apr 2 #71

Who are the big three these days? Polybius Apr 2 #70

Ford, GM, and Stellantis DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2 #72

Stellantis is no longer domestic MichMan Apr 2 #74

I work for them Jack Bone Apr 3 #76

I can see why given the Charger EV MichMan Apr 3 #81

Ford disagrees ... marble falls Apr 3 #78

If you consider cars made in China for sale in the Middle East as domestic, sure MichMan Apr 3 #82

Wow NJCher Apr 3 #79