General Discussion

Nixie

(17,581 posts)

46. Total fiction. Do they not see analysis of how people actually vote??

Reply to betsuni (Reply #8)

Wed Apr 2, 2025, 02:02 AM

Apr 2

We are mocked and ridiculed over socialism. Not “third way” and their other rabbit holes.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

1 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

betsuni

111 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Democrats still misunderstand working-class voters - to their peril [View all] KPN Apr 1 OP

how do repukes help with "stagnant wages and higher prices" Skittles Apr 1 #1

Exactly. I thought Kamala Harris and Tim Walz did a decent job of talking about Redleg Apr 1 #6

well said Skittles Apr 1 #7

As Thomas Frank observed... regnaD kciN Apr 2 #66

The secret to the GOP is that they create fake national issues Johonny Apr 1 #13

YUP Skittles Apr 1 #15

The opinion piece wasn't about "Repukes". KPN Apr 2 #47

but it's only DEMS who are advised to "understand working class voters" Skittles Apr 2 #69

The article is about how out of tune the Third World KPN Apr 2 #71

I suggest, in this time, many of the voters we relied upon cachukis Apr 2 #77

The majority of working class voters are xenophobes and are mad about high prices. LonePirate Apr 1 #2

I don't buy that. Yeah, the majority of Trump voters, but not the majority of working class voters or even voters. KPN Thursday #89

Third Way BS mcar Apr 1 #3

I had to scroll to the end of the article to see the author. sheshe2 Apr 1 #19

And talking about both sides of their mouths mcar Apr 1 #25

That too. sheshe2 Apr 1 #26

When was Sanders EVER 'third way'?? THAT was the CLINTONS! Jack Valentino Thursday #95

The article itself did that. KPN Apr 2 #48

If working class voters can't get behind the only party capable of saving our democracy because they got their feelings ImNotGod Apr 1 #4

Does "working class" mean non-union? SharonClark Apr 1 #5

Around 90% of workers in the US aren't in unions DetroitLegalBeagle Apr 1 #23

Wrong, This is fiction. betsuni Apr 1 #8

Indeed it is. A lot of these anti-Democratic Party Op-Ed's are. emulatorloo Apr 1 #32

Total fiction. Do they not see analysis of how people actually vote?? Nixie Apr 2 #46

BRAVO !!! This is exactly right. But ... Bluetus Apr 1 #9

nonsense Skittles Apr 1 #10

In that case, you must surely agree completely with this Third Way report. Bluetus Apr 1 #20

WTF Skittles Apr 1 #21

Trump is implementing every page of P2025 Bluetus Apr 1 #36

OF COURSE HE IS Skittles Apr 1 #38

We have lost the media and the courts largely BECAUSE Bluetus Apr 1 #40

IT IS WELL KNOWN WHAT WE STAND FOR Skittles Apr 1 #42

Please leave black folks out of it Keepthesoulalive Apr 2 #72

It is just a fact, not an accusation. Bluetus Apr 2 #73

Those numbers have been disputed Keepthesoulalive Apr 2 #74

I certainly didn't mean to imply that black men were the primary reason for our losses Bluetus Apr 2 #76

Grifters tend to be charismatic Keepthesoulalive Apr 2 #79

I agree. Dems need to be a lot more direct in calling out the grifters Bluetus Apr 2 #83

People will be in the streets protesting Keepthesoulalive Apr 2 #85

That starts in a big way this Saturday Bluetus Apr 2 #86

Op-Ed is fact-free garbage. P.S.most DU'ers are not going to praise Trump for his shit anti-democratic "plan" emulatorloo Apr 1 #34

I have no idea what you are talking about. That is certainly nothing remotely like what I suggested. Bluetus Apr 1 #37

Fact: the economy and economic condition of Americans is better under Democratic administrations. betsuni Apr 1 #41

That misses the point. Bluetus Apr 1 #43

You mean yelling empty populist promises, lies. Democratic policy is raising taxes on wealthy and betsuni Apr 2 #67

People want a plan, not a string of random rhetoric Bluetus Apr 2 #75

The Democratic plan is government that works for economic and social equality. Republicans know this. betsuni Friday #104

That's not a plan. That's an aspiration. Bluetus Friday #105

The Internet Recovery Act was not an "actionable plan?" You make me laugh. emulatorloo Saturday #108

I don't know what the "Internet Recovery Act" is Bluetus Saturday #110

This message was self-deleted by its author emulatorloo 17 hrs ago #111

They didn't "sell" them. They lied about them. Needy Amin denied that he'd even heard of Project 2025. hatrack Apr 2 #50

'Bold Ideas' and 'Heritage Foundation' is an oxymoron. Fascism isn't a 'bold idea.' emulatorloo Saturday #107

THANK YOU Skittles Apr 1 #39

Biden also spoke about the failure of trickle down wryter2000 Apr 2 #56

Biden did, Hillary "Trumped-up trickle-down economics" and Harris and the Democratic Party. betsuni Apr 2 #68

Hillary: "Trumped-up trickle down," Biden "Trickle-down economics never works" Harris calls it a failure. betsuni Apr 2 #70

Thanks. KPN Friday #97

Too many Dems think progress is achieved and elections won in the 90 days before an election Bluetus Friday #106

A lot to digest, some I agree with and some I don't Raven123 Apr 1 #11

Third Way again? Iggo Apr 1 #12

+1 leftstreet Apr 1 #18

The Sons Of Lieberman can go fuck themselves . . . . hatrack Apr 2 #51

The Op Ed actually is very critical of Third Way. In fact, KPN Apr 2 #52

Well, I think this solution supports the status quo. walkingman Apr 1 #14

The Op Ed actually agrees with you 100% with the KPN Apr 2 #55

The 3rd wheel group is the out of touch politicians kacekwl Apr 1 #16

That's the point being made in the Op Ed exactly. KPN Apr 2 #57

and republicans do????? CatWoman Apr 1 #17

The Op Ed was focused on the Democratic Party, granted. KPN Apr 2 #58

Fuck Third Way. They're part of the problem. nt Rob H. Apr 1 #22

Exactly! And pretty much what the Op Ed actually KPN Apr 2 #59

This not "the Democrats" ibegurpard Apr 1 #24

Read the full article. I think the author agrees with you fully. KPN Apr 2 #61

You are showing outstanding patience Lulu KC Thursday #92

Trying! KPN Friday #98

econobabble Tetrachloride Apr 1 #27

repub front group third way demands dems outreach to racist, sexist and homophobic republicans lol nt msongs Apr 1 #28

Thanks, LOL! keep_left Apr 1 #30

The article is actually very critical of Third Way KPN Apr 2 #63

Third Way are a bunch of useless idiots alarimer Apr 1 #29

Yup. And that's basically what the OP says KPN Apr 2 #65

I am so friggen sick of this trope.3rd Way is a Republican play to keep splitting anti-Republican sentiment. OAITW r.2.0 Apr 1 #31

Yup. I don' t know about trope, but I always viewed it as more R than D. KPN Friday #99

I've been a cynic of 3rd ways since I paid attention and voted. At least Maine figured it out with Ranked Choice Voting. OAITW r.2.0 Friday #102

Listening to LBJ's last interview with Cronkite Comrade Citizen Apr 1 #33

The real answer is uniting the 99%... Blasphemer Apr 1 #35

3rd way is a loser Blue Full Moon Apr 2 #44

Yup. Thats exactly what the article was about and saying. KPN Friday #103

Basically they'll cause so much chaos and pain flamingdem Apr 2 #45

Working class MAGAT morons orangecrush Apr 2 #49

Sometimes I think they believe college graduates outnumber average working people? kentuck Apr 2 #53

We're supposed to appeal to struggling working class folks wryter2000 Apr 2 #54

That is exactly the point of the article. The author agrees with you on this. Did you read it fully? KPN Thursday #87

Workers feel ignored. Kid Berwyn Apr 2 #60

Exactly ... and the article makes that point in my rteading. It's highly critical of 3rd Way -- as it should be. KPN Thursday #90

Confusion about the Guardian article vs Third Way thought crime Friday #100

The biggest problems Democrats have is failing to tell people what they've done. Look at all the good Vinca Apr 2 #62

My surprise at this NPR show illustrates the point, I think. LAS14 Apr 2 #64

Total BS Dlpger61 Apr 2 #78

This is tiring. RandySF Apr 2 #80

I work so I am working class Meowmee Apr 2 #81

Funny how Most Black Working Class People Don't Fall For It Aepps22 Apr 2 #82

It's a crazy chicken... appmanga Apr 2 #84

That's a fair statement. At the same time, it ignores a couple of things: the fact that the Democratic Party generally KPN Thursday #88

The hugbox isn't going to take this well. ObscurePiton Thursday #91

Hugbox? Lulu KC Thursday #93

Bullshit. Many working class voters apparently don't know the difference between right and wrong. GulfofMexico Thursday #94

"Hopefully, we as a party can be open minded and embrace this view rather than berate it as anti-D Party." OR B.See Thursday #96

Third Way crap NoRethugFriends Friday #101

A silver lining: the Democrats-ignore-working-class BS is so obviously BS that it really has to stop. betsuni Saturday #109