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Cirsium

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27. Context

Sat Mar 29, 2025, 06:21 PM

Mar 29

For those who have no idea what this thread is about...

California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) took a swing at his own party Friday evening, claiming Democrats have become too “toxic” and “judgmental.” Newsom, in an appearance on “Real Time with Bill Maher,” was asked about other Democrats’ criticism of the party and those who have questioned the governor for bringing GOP guests on his new podcast, “This Is Gavin Newsom,” calling it “platforming.”

“I mean, this idea that we can’t even have a conversation with the other side … or the notion we just have to continue to talk to ourselves or win the same damn echo chamber, these guys are crushing us,” he continued, referencing Republicans who have seen better numbers in recent elections.

“The Democratic brand is toxic right now,” the governor said, adding later that “we talk down to people. We talk past people.” The governor also gave a nod to recent guests on his show, which some have viewed as controversial including former White House adviser Steve Bannon and Turning Point USA co-founder Charlie Kirk.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/newsom-today-toxic-democratic-party-124216551.html

Oh, and it's the Democratic party, not the Democrat party.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] Sogo Mar 29 OP

He is just playing the "game" kevink077 Mar 29 #1

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 29 #9

I'm not. The goal is to win!! And if this is what it takes to get independents and recent Repub voters back Pisces Mar 29 #2

Or maybe he's just trying to win Kimberly back. NoRethugFriends Mar 29 #3

Oh, snap! Sogo Mar 29 #4

That's just nasty. His actual wife is a fine and stable human being & the mother of his children Hekate Mar 29 #59

Okay NRF, you win today's funniest post award... your prize is in the mail and should arrive shortly!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 29 #67

That hasn't worked Cirsium Mar 29 #26

As Bernie has shown us, not only does triangulation not work, it hurts our standing with most Americans... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 29 #33

The bench is deep Cirsium Mar 29 #38

Yes! So deep, Newsom doesn't even come close to being in my top 20 potential Democratic nominees for 2028... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 29 #44

Youtuber Tennessee Brando has also lost a lot of respect for Newsome RazorbackExpat Mar 29 #68

Yeah, Gov. Newsom had my respect for that too, but if you listen to his podcast, I hardly recognize the guy. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 29 #70

Prescient? cachukis Mar 29 #54

More than likely, tho I could be wrong... I do think most voters prefer politicians who stick with their principles... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 29 #61

Politicians need voters. Beyond the base. cachukis Mar 29 #62

Absolutely, BUT what is NOT needed is voters at the EXPENSE of the base!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 29 #63

As much as it pains me to admit, I'm not confident cachukis Mar 29 #65

Sorry, but I'm not sure I understand your point. Maybe it's just me, but would appreciate if you'd please clarify, thx! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 29 #66

He is trolling for donors for '28 and it is going to turn off more people than it attracts. He is not trustworthy. mahina Mar 29 #5

100%! Sad to see how far Newsom, with his new positions, has fallen politically in the eyes of his Democratic base. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 29 #45

It's "Democratic Party"... PCIntern Mar 29 #6

As a Democrat, I prefer to think of myself as a noun rather than an adjective. Sogo Mar 29 #10

It's Democratic Party. Kingofalldems Mar 29 #13

Post removed Post removed Mar 29 #17

An individual in the Democratic party is a Democrat. Emile Mar 29 #16

Wow, condescension and intimidation here at DU. Sogo Mar 29 #20

Nope. Kingofalldems Mar 29 #22

"DEMOCRAT party" is condensension Skittles Mar 29 #47

This is a hardcore Dem discussion board Arazi Mar 29 #57

It's Democratic Party. SalviaBlue Mar 29 #18

Entry level of what? Sogo Mar 29 #21

Grammar. Scrivener7 Mar 29 #41

Yes Meowmee Mar 29 #55

I am a Democrat, phylny Mar 29 #36

Brush up on your grammar. The "parts of speech" part. It's "Democratic party." Scrivener7 Mar 29 #40

I am a Democrat, and my party is the Democratic Party Hekate Mar 29 #60

Great point. H2O Man Mar 29 #19

Just burns my ears hearing Democrat party. a kennedy Mar 29 #23

It's telling. H2O Man Mar 29 #73

It is Democratic Party ornotna Mar 29 #35

Absolutely! The latter term you cite has historically been used as a dis by Rethuglycons so why would we perpetuate it?! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 29 #64

He's playing for 2028 while making sure he has no shot at winning. tman Mar 29 #7

There Rebl2 Mar 29 #14

Same. That gut feeling never lies. tman Mar 29 #24

Yep. I had the same vibes about John Edwards. nt Blasphemer Mar 29 #52

He's a rich boy CountAllVotes Mar 29 #29

french laundry story? do tell (or is there a link & i could just read about it) nt orleans Mar 29 #46

Didn't realize Rebl2 Mar 29 #49

A certain slickness? And I say moonscape Mar 29 #50

Few better than Jerry Brown!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 29 #72

Sad, ain't it?! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 29 #69

... Prairie Gates Mar 29 #8

It makes him look like an opportunist karynnj Mar 29 #11

I totally agree with you. Sogo Mar 29 #12

Yes!! Tim Walz by FAR is my favorite choice among the State Governors for 2028. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 29 #71

Makes him look like a slimy politician pinkstarburst Mar 29 #15

Trump supporters think he's genuine, tells it like it is, is honest, isn't a politician. betsuni Mar 29 #30

What Newsom is doing might hurt him during the Primary JI7 Mar 29 #25

He's shooting himself in the foot. Scrivener7 Mar 29 #42

Context Cirsium Mar 29 #27

I'm so sick of people saying the Democratic brand is toxic. Initech Mar 29 #31

You got it Cirsium Mar 29 #39

Well, Newsom was dumb enough to marry KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE. viva la Mar 29 #28

As a Californian, he is no Jerry Brown and never will be IMHO, and JohnSJ Mar 29 #32

Jerry Brown CountAllVotes Mar 29 #34

Disappointed in anyone calling us the "Democrat Party"... regnaD kciN Mar 29 #37

Perhaps it's time to stop being triggered by "Democrat" vs. "Democratic". Buns_of_Fire Mar 29 #43

I tend to agree. Abolishinist Mar 29 #53

We are going through the process of separating out which people are loyal to American ideals and to constitutional lees1975 Mar 29 #48

Democrat Party? RandySF Mar 29 #51

It's name is the Democratic Party. SocialDemocrat61 Mar 29 #56

Ummm. Link? Please? Hekate Mar 29 #58

Democrat party? mcar Mar 29 #74