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generalbetrayus

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Wed Mar 26, 2025, 05:58 PM Mar 2025

I recently chatted with my older brother, a Naval Academy graduate, about the Signal chat reported in the Atlantic. [View all]

He graduated from the Naval Academy a long time ago and flew an A-7 attack bomber over North Vietnam for six weeks late in the war.

This is what he had to say:
"So first, The Atlantic erred in calling it info from a War Plan. They do exist but are very high level and don’t have the level of combat detail that Hegseth posted. That info would be typical of the details of a Strike Plan. With the media calling it a War plan, the actors can truthfully deny they released details of a War Plan. Regarding the actual details, they sound typical of a Strike Plan. I'm appalled that (1) they were talking about all this on an unsecured (even if encrypted in transmission) communications and (2) they claim the info was not classified and that if it had been revealed in realtime would not have endangered the mission or the operators making the attacks. Total BS."

"[His] expertise: 20 years Navy officer (pilot); 20 years working with DoD on defense issues; TS clearance with some compartment access at times."

I am posting his message with his permission.

Additional information from my brother received after I made this post:
"TW, those texts should still be classified, not as critical now that time has passed, but still by knowing when the F-18s launched and when they struck, given the constraints of the cruising water in the area one could get a pretty good idea of where the carrier was. Not good…."

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Yes, the bottom line is that air crews were placed in danger. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #1
Only if Goldberg had gone public. Igel Mar 2025 #3
I am dumbfounded by your comment: "a quick game of telephone." Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #5
We cannot know that classified (not merely confidential) information was not released. TomSlick Mar 2025 #6
"No confidential information was released outside the members of the group..." FullySupportDems Mar 2025 #7
Completely wrong. This easily could have resulted in a military disaster for the US. Wiz Imp Mar 2025 #12
The fact that Goldberg was mistakenly shown the information is totally irrelevant Wiz Imp Mar 2025 #13
I talked to both my kids mercuryblues Mar 2025 #15
Reply my brother sent me in regard to your last statement: generalbetrayus Mar 2025 #16
Huh? nini Mar 2025 #20
Thank god my Dad was a pilot in WW2. I'd be terrified if he was in the military now. kerry-is-my-prez Mar 2025 #14
People will not sign up for your own leaders sending you into an ambush. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #19
Thank you for posting, general Leghorn21 Mar 2025 #2
My only quibble is the expectation/blame being placed on Goldberg/Atlantic Ms. Toad Mar 2025 #4
Yeah, it's like the BS argument that rightwingers KPN Mar 2025 #9
HumInt, if it exists, could have been compromised as well. Ilsa Mar 2025 #8
The much bigger problem is that this group of incompetents feel free to use insecure communication devices -- erronis Mar 2025 #10
But, her emails.... Dem4life1970 Mar 2025 #11
Indeed. calimary Mar 2025 #17
Goldberg obviously waited until he deemed enough time had passed haele Mar 2025 #18
I've held a clearance for 40 years... Happy Hoosier Mar 2025 #21
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