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MadameButterfly

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73. proof

Tue Jan 14, 2025, 11:46 AM

Jan 14

How would this person know that "he has proof why Trump stole classified documents"? Smith's office didn't engage in leaking of information so how would anyone know what they did and didn't have proof of?

That is the first post of yours I was responding to. It's about whether Smith has proof. Where am I wrong?

This thread (starting with 3.) is responding to Smith claiming he has proof. I omit the word "saying" because you think that word negates the whole point. Of course it must go to court to be proven to the public, but if Smith says he can do that, am I going to believe him or Trump?

I never engaged in a debate about whether Smith's claim was a public statement or not because I don't care. So it you think you've won on that score, have fun with it.

But I don't take kindly to being accused of spreading misinformation (when I haven't) so I'm done engaging with you now or in the future.

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Remember The Server at Trump Tower Connected To Russian Alfa Bank [View all] gab13by13 Jan 11 OP

The greatest crime in US history was covered up but a large number of people, Irish_Dem Jan 11 #1

Jack Smith made the statement gab13by13 Jan 11 #3

It is not hard to figure why and what Trump stole. Irish_Dem Jan 11 #12

All of the above but Putin might have just blackmailed him MadameButterfly Jan 11 #30

This may have been part of it yes. Irish_Dem Jan 11 #32

Agreed. As I said, all of the above. However I want to know what Jack Smith MadameButterfly Jan 11 #34

Yes I think Smith has a lot of evidence. Irish_Dem Jan 11 #36

Smith was in The Netherlands before he became the Special Counsel. wnylib Jan 12 #58

I agree, he needs to go back to Europe. Irish_Dem Jan 12 #60

If you know the president has been turning US spies over to Putin MadameButterfly Jan 13 #63

Yes but there is a dangerous downside to releasing this information. Irish_Dem Jan 13 #65

I believe this is why his previous compromising of spies MadameButterfly Jan 13 #70

Since when DENVERPOPS Jan 11 #41

Lets say THAT on facebook and see if it johnnyfins Jan 11 #18

I had not heard that, but I would question the validity of the statement without evidence. Wiz Imp Jan 11 #22

Jack Smith himself said it. MadameButterfly Jan 11 #31

When and where? Link please. Wiz Imp Jan 11 #35

MSNBC. Probably Chris Hayes MadameButterfly Jan 12 #61

So in other words, you have no proof Jack Smith himself said it. Wiz Imp Jan 12 #62

Oh come on MadameButterfly Jan 13 #64

If it was so well known he said it, then why can't I find a single reference to it on a google search? Wiz Imp Jan 13 #66

I don't know why you can't find it MadameButterfly Jan 13 #67

You're arguing a point I never contested. Wiz Imp Jan 13 #68

What is your point MadameButterfly Jan 13 #69

I made my point Wiz Imp Jan 13 #71

proof MadameButterfly Jan 14 #73

Wrong again. I started by saying I was skeptical that Jack Smith ever made such a statement Wiz Imp Jan 14 #74

I've always thought so because, Captain Zero Jan 11 #26

We should all be watching DENVERPOPS Jan 11 #42

If Garland prevents the release of both, yellow dahlia Jan 11 #38

Most? Americans simply don't care. Can't be bothered to. Evolve Dammit Jan 12 #47

More than 70 million Americans absolutely care! nt Trueblue Texan Jan 12 #51

I get that, but it is not a majority. Half the republic can't even be bothered to vote. Evolve Dammit Jan 12 #53

There is a copy somewhere. Jack has it. Joinfortmill Jan 12 #56

In 4 years, did Biden release even one report of any of these activities? Bluetus Jan 11 #14

Yep. No one wants us to see the raw ugly truth about Trump's many crimes past and present. Irish_Dem Jan 11 #15

And when the Dems go along with these cover-ups Bluetus Jan 11 #23

Dems might say it is highly classified. Irish_Dem Jan 11 #24

We have to stop playing with one hand tied behind our back Bluetus Jan 11 #25

I know playing nice has lost us our democracy, national security, financial and healthcare well being. Irish_Dem Jan 11 #27

I heard an Interview on Progress/XM this morning. Bluetus Jan 11 #28

For the love of god, making nice is a gd losing strategy. Irish_Dem Jan 11 #29

by the time we get four years from now DENVERPOPS Jan 11 #43

Yes the victors get to write their version of the truth and create a new reality. Irish_Dem Jan 12 #48

Even without the cover-ups Blue_Tires Jan 11 #39

Also remember the INTERPETER on that russian phone call? bluestarone Jan 11 #2

The one whose notes were confiscated? Evolve Dammit Jan 12 #49

The complete, unabridged Starr Report, Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr's investigation of President Bill Clinton, sop Jan 11 #4

In that same train of thought gab13by13 Jan 11 #5

You want to do that, so they can catch typos and simple mistakes for you. . . . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 11 #10

I hope Jack Smith kept a copy DENVERPOPS Jan 11 #44

Yup. Joinfortmill Jan 12 #57

Much Like DENVERPOPS Jan 12 #59

Excellent comparison johnnyfins Jan 11 #19

Cannon's injunction expires tomorrow Fiendish Thingy Jan 11 #6

Post removed Post removed Jan 11 #7

When I misremember I admit it. gab13by13 Jan 11 #8

I think that was semi-independently or whatever looked into and found lacking. Bernardo de La Paz Jan 11 #9

Question: Could President Biden release any of the reports that aren't released by other means? JHB Jan 11 #11

He needs to do it under immunity MadameButterfly Jan 11 #33

New Yorker: "Was There a Connection Between a Russian Bank and the Trump Campaign?" Botany Jan 11 #13

Do tell. dchill Jan 11 #21

Not enough is heard about McGonigle. yellow dahlia Jan 11 #40

This country has shown at all levels Trump can do whatever he wants. spudspud Jan 11 #16

And don't forget Deutsche Bank's loans to bankrupt tsf... rubbersole Jan 11 #17

Question: johnnyfins Jan 11 #20

President Trump's staggering record of uncharged crimes republianmushroom Jan 11 #37

K & R SunSeeker Jan 12 #45

Yes, I remember Meowmee Jan 12 #46

That Alfa Bank story was througly debunked in 2016 ... TomWilm Jan 12 #50

Alwayys said: SayItLoud Jan 12 #52

All those retired somnolent politicians and nobody interrogated Trump when he was right there. Tetrachloride Jan 12 #54

Yup. We have a big problem Joinfortmill Jan 12 #55

Alfa Bank is special. Kid Berwyn Jan 13 #72