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wnylib

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37. RE: not understanding people's accents.
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 04:13 PM
Jan 2025

I've posted before on DU about this funny family story.

My aunt was searching for census records of my paternal great-grandfather, Gottlieb Herd. He was from the German sector of Switzerland at Bern. She could not find him anywhere so she switched her computer search to Soundex for similar sounding names. She found him listed as Cutlip Hurt from Bear, Germany.

It was the right location in the US, with the right dates and spouse.

In a German accent, the "g" in his name would sound like a guttural "k." The "b" at the end of his first name would be softer than an English "b." The "d" at the end of his surname, Herd, would sound a lot like a "t." The pronunciation of "ber" in Bern would rhyme with hair. It would sound like bairn.

So, if great-grandpa said that he was German from Bern, the census taker concluded that he was from Bear, Germany. Except that there is no Bear, Germany, which would have been spelled as Baer if it did exist.

So, the mix up in pronunciation comes out as an amusing sort of malapropism in English. Cutlip Hurt from Bear, Germany. Well, if his lip was cut by a bear in Germany, yeah, it would hurt. LOL.

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So they want volunteers? House of Roberts Jan 2025 #1
I suppose it sells better than saying they're seeking dinosaurs. Hugin Jan 2025 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jan 2025 #30
Yep, if they want it done, better pay people for their skill and time. brush Jan 2025 #52
Volunteers that know how to read. If they still taught cursive and doc03 Jan 2025 #3
The documents are very difficult to marybourg Jan 2025 #5
It's also not just cursive, as we know it. wnylib Jan 2025 #8
Also there's deterioration in the ink and paper over marybourg Jan 2025 #10
I imagine many docs are palimpsests. nt Ilsa Jan 2025 #22
My Grandmother DeepWinter Jan 2025 #25
I have trouble reading my father's cursive - it was beautiful and heavily stylized. nt yellowdogintexas Jan 2025 #31
I do genealogy too and some of the old documents are almost impossible to read. Irish_Dem Jan 2025 #32
I've had trouble reading the handwriting of wnylib Jan 2025 #33
Yes try it in French/Gaelic/Latin. Irish_Dem Jan 2025 #34
RE: not understanding people's accents. wnylib Jan 2025 #37
I Use The Old "R" ProfessorGAC Jan 2025 #45
I can imagine that it's very difficult. old time cursive is very hard (for me) to read BlueWaveNeverEnd Jan 2025 #12
Interesting that you apparently believe cursive is not English. Voltaire2 Jan 2025 #53
I tried it once and they assigned me marybourg Jan 2025 #4
I did take a look at the information page. Hugin Jan 2025 #6
My ability to write in a cursive has diminished since I began using keyboards and touchscreens almost exclusively. sop Jan 2025 #7
It reads "For lo these many years." NameAlreadyTaken Jan 2025 #9
Eventually thinkingagain Jan 2025 #11
People who want or need to read cursive can learn to do so on their own. Mariana Jan 2025 #13
Won't need encryption anymore! Just handwrite your plan of attack in cursive erronis Jan 2025 #19
I will give it a shot Marthe48 Jan 2025 #14
People who can't read cursive William769 Jan 2025 #15
Yeah, but ... mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2025 #16
Yeah, it can be a bit challenging. But you adapt. Igel Jan 2025 #35
I also speak cursive Johonny Jan 2025 #17
You mean loopy? erronis Jan 2025 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author appalachiablue Jan 2025 #24
National 3auld6phart Jan 2025 #20
I doubt most people will be able to read older cursive Meowmee Jan 2025 #21
I love the old writing. Linda ladeewolf Jan 2025 #23
Thank you for posting this! Dem2theMax Jan 2025 #26
Too complicated for AI? no_hypocrisy Jan 2025 #27
pay per page... it'll get done. WarGamer Jan 2025 #28
Whut 😮 Blue_Tires Jan 2025 #29
Used to volunteer for Project Gutenberg. Igel Jan 2025 #36
Confused Language Geek Jan 2025 #38
Archives will not see your resume here KS Toronado Jan 2025 #39
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Welcome to DU. Many here enjoy volunteering. When I lived in DC, I volunteered at The allegorical oracle Jan 2025 #43
Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2025 #49
This is crowdsourcing research iemanja Jan 2025 #50
No pay equals No TBF. TBF Jan 2025 #41
So, You Are Saying RobinA Jan 2025 #42
No, I am saying that if you force me into a box and TBF Jan 2025 #44
There's A Middle Way ProfessorGAC Jan 2025 #46
"so why should the rest of us? " eShirl Jan 2025 #54
I'm fully in support of giving up capitalism and trying another way - TBF Jan 2025 #59
Who will fact-check my transcriptions? JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2025 #47
Seems like AI would be good at this Bonx Jan 2025 #48
Free human labor is much cheaper than training AI models. Intractable Jan 2025 #56
It is until it isn't. And then it's better and cheaper. Bonx Jan 2025 #58
I think I'll try this iemanja Jan 2025 #51
I think this is a great thing to take a crack at Alice B. Jan 2025 #57
Jesus, I'm a historian. A dying breed, as it were. róisín_dubh Jan 2025 #55
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