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80. The flaws that were shown required the machines to be connected. Here's a StarLink story:

Wed Jan 8, 2025, 11:30 AM

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https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/nevada/articles/2024-11-12/fact-focus-election-officials-knock-down-starlink-vote-rigging-conspiracy-theories#google_vignette

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In my fucked up brain I still just can't buy that the election was legitimate. [View all] Botany Jan 8 OP

Legit or not doesn't really matter anymore. BlueTsunami2018 Jan 8 #1

It matters. Not to turn the election over. OnionPatch Jan 8 #85

It's probably too late to avoid it. BlueTsunami2018 Jan 8 #87

We lost, is how it happened HereForTheParty Jan 8 #179

Just curious, how and why are you sure? What makes KPN Jan 8 #186

If there is any way they could have done it OnionPatch Jan 9 #197

What you said!! Charging Triceratops Jan 8 #2

truth dosent matter to them at all. they dont give a hoot hoot hoot, AllaN01Bear Jan 8 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author onecaliberal Jan 8 #27

They also never mention... Wuddles440 Jan 8 #34

Nor the subsidies n/t rasputin1952 Jan 8 #67

Anyone who would orchestrate an insurrection, is totally capable of stealing Emile Jan 8 #3

Absolutely yellow dahlia Jan 8 #12

It was an amateurish insurrection that failed miserably (while damaging lives and the People's property). . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 8 #42

It was but it showed others what he was willing to do whopis01 Jan 8 #84

Well stated post. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 8 #86

We must hold those who legit voted Trump accountable. The Grand Illuminist Jan 9 #206

Elon Musk apparently got caught rigging the German election next month for the ATF Nazis to win. Meadowoak Jan 8 #81

Wow, I missed that piece of information! I hope they have evidence of the method used. liberalla Jan 8 #93

This is interesting. Do you have links so we can assess credibility of what Macron might have exactly said? Bernardo de La Paz Jan 8 #95

Here - He accused Musk of meddling through Twitter/X Wiz Imp Jan 8 #177

Thanks, that is what I thought it was. Interference is not "rigging", which the earlier poster used Bernardo de La Paz Jan 9 #192

Yep. Interference is what Russia did in the 2016 US elections (and the 2 elections since) Wiz Imp Jan 9 #195

Sorry but that is BS - he didn't rig an election that hasnt even happened yet Wiz Imp Jan 8 #173

Maybe it's time to consider the fact that we are a country full of morons, racists, and selfish pricks? dem4decades Jan 8 #4

Who believe in Jay-BEEZus Christ Botany Jan 8 #10

Repubs will take credit for that manufacturing plant. Just wait and see. Ohioboy Jan 8 #24

Even though Rep. Balderson whose district the plant is in no doubt voted against the Chips Act .. Botany Jan 8 #30

But, but he's oooold... rubbersole Jan 8 #28

it was considered since the founding of our government cadoman Jan 8 #44

Riiiiight.. whathehell Jan 8 #66

I agree with you... Think. Again. Jan 8 #5

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 8 #6

Nobody is going to give you the answers you seek. Kaleva Jan 8 #7

I remain malaise Jan 8 #8

"Doubting" is an appropriate stance at this time. I am slightly vaguely doubtful myself Bernardo de La Paz Jan 8 #46

I've mentioned numerous inconsistencies in other threads Blue_Tires Jan 8 #9

Ugly indeed. yellow dahlia Jan 8 #15

Sometimes I wish we would have put a huge $$$$$ reward up KS Toronado Jan 8 #52

Yes, I have as well ScratchCat Jan 8 #82

I like logic. yellow dahlia Jan 8 #165

The fix was in DENVERPOPS Jan 8 #98

Maybe it's not your brain that's yellow dahlia Jan 8 #11

Yup it's the same reason why they stole every swing state spapeggy Jan 8 #18

But the SAME THING happened in 2020. Look at GA; Callie1979 Jan 8 #25

Where were Ivanka's voting machines deployed? Why did Muak all but guarantee victory in the swing states? live love laugh Jan 8 #13

And wasn't Musk's Star Link in contact to the central tabulators in all the swing states? Botany Jan 8 #17

NO. Star Link wasnt connected to ANY voting equipment. Callie1979 Jan 8 #23

I have read that voting personnel praised Star link for increasing connectivity Botany Jan 8 #49

The flaws that were shown required the machines to be connected. Here's a StarLink story: Callie1979 Jan 8 #80

I agree this is fishy IbogaProject Jan 8 #36

he cant do jack diddley. he aint sworn in yet. AllaN01Bear Jan 8 #16

You're not the only one. I'm right there with you. liberalla Jan 8 #19

"And how many racist, sexist, and mouth breathing dumb fucks does this country really have?" Ray Bruns Jan 8 #20

I feel the same way and BonnieJW Jan 8 #21

Star link was NOT connected to ANYTHING Callie1979 Jan 8 #22

It was not a legitimate win. Irish_Dem Jan 8 #26

Disinformation won. rubbersole Jan 8 #35

IMHO the stolen/blackmail top securtiy secrets documents won/gave him another term. nt bonniebgood Jan 8 #162

One of my many many pet peeves. yellow dahlia Jan 8 #166

Evidence? Bernardo de La Paz Jan 8 #40

They are not taking our democracy from us,... magicarpet Jan 8 #47

..... forgot the butler emoji.... magicarpet Jan 8 #51

I said the same thing. yellow dahlia Jan 8 #167

The Deepest State tees up internationalist change? bucolic_frolic Jan 8 #29

Yeah, Trump stole the election Farmer-Rick Jan 8 #31

Evidence ? . (speculation and innuendo are not evidence) . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 8 #39

There's plenty of evidence Farmer-Rick Jan 8 #70

Post the plentiful evidence, w sources. Show it. You can't show evidence fr credible sources, I'm sure. .nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 8 #71

Can you show credible evidence Farmer-Rick Jan 8 #73

YOU said it was plentiful. Post the plentiful evidence you claim to have seen. Democrats have integrity Bernardo de La Paz Jan 8 #74

Many countries do routine audits of election results Farmer-Rick Jan 8 #91

How are you sure there were not routine audits in this election? Bernardo de La Paz Jan 8 #94

Probable cause is evidence Farmer-Rick Jan 8 #133

No. The standard refers to the evidence because the evidence has to come first Bernardo de La Paz Jan 8 #135

You obviously didn't read most of what I wrote Farmer-Rick Jan 8 #139

I read it all. You can't make sense of what I wrote because you make accusations and speculations on no evidence. nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 8 #142

Facts (evidence) first, then Probable Cause, then more facts, then charges. Bernardo de La Paz Jan 8 #141

You really, really want to believe Trump won Farmer-Rick Jan 8 #145

No, and there you go again with the CHEAP tactic of trying to tell me what I am thinking. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 8 #146

I'm just stating what your behavior shows Farmer-Rick Jan 8 #149

And you are recommending your own posts. How cheap is that? Bernardo de La Paz Jan 8 #150

I read the whole of your post more than twice. Probable cause is a conclusion from evidence, not the other way around Bernardo de La Paz Jan 8 #144

You do not win the argument by Farmer-Rick Jan 8 #147

There is no evidence to conclude probable cause. You have presented none because you have none. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 8 #148

Just read the original post Farmer-Rick Jan 8 #151

The original post presents NO evidence, names, or sources. I called the poster out on it too in post #37. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 8 #152

Not to worry Farmer-Rick Jan 8 #154

Circumstantial evidence is still evidence. yellow dahlia Jan 8 #175

It would be nice if the poster gave even circumstantial evidence, but not even that. They gave nothing Bernardo de La Paz Jan 9 #193

The evidence is all over Farmer-Rick Jan 9 #196

"The evidence is all over" Unladen Swallow Jan 9 #207

It's not that I can't Farmer-Rick Jan 10 #216

Audits are routinely done during certification/nt Abnredleg Jan 8 #129

Yes, but they do not audit results of elections Farmer-Rick Jan 8 #134

What do you think is "auditing the results" and how are you sure that was not done? Bernardo de La Paz Jan 8 #137

No, they audit the results Abnredleg Jan 8 #143

Which states and elections? Farmer-Rick Jan 8 #153

You made the allegation: Ball is in your court. But you have no evidence, no names, no sources. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 8 #155

All the swing states, for a start Abnredleg Jan 8 #156

He didn't steal the election. He bought it! DaveDuhRave Jan 8 #48

Occam's razor says this is easier to do, doesn't risk prison time & doesn't require huge coverup/concealment. .nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 8 #97

We are a big choir. yellow dahlia Jan 8 #169

I've been thinking this for a long time Chicagogrl1 Jan 8 #32

Probably because they only had speculation and no credible evidence Bernardo de La Paz Jan 8 #38

Right. You're doing a great job pushing back on this nonsense. Wiz Imp Jan 8 #185

We just talk ourselves out of everything, don't we? hadEnuf Jan 8 #163

How many provisionals? counted provisionals, uncounted provisionals, scared by reports of violence, ... Festivito Jan 8 #33

If you don't have real evidence, then this kind of speculation doesn't serve you well Bernardo de La Paz Jan 8 #37

I have done election work for 20 years and something about the election doesn't pass my smell test Botany Jan 8 #43

Sure. But sometimes some things stink without being rotten. All the same continue to be alert Bernardo de La Paz Jan 8 #50

If it was stolen, DV1 Jan 8 #41

Me either. Unfortunately, we don't know how they did it. travelingthrulife Jan 8 #45

That's exactly how I see it. Kid Berwyn Jan 8 #53

Watch how fast "they" push the scam that is Crypto. Botany Jan 8 #54

...and Project 2025 Kid Berwyn Jan 8 #55

Prepare for incoming!!! Hope22 Jan 8 #56

I don't think you are fucked up at all. hadEnuf Jan 8 #57

But..but..but...the lady!!! Hope22 Jan 8 #58

I agree with you Andy823 Jan 8 #59

Never underestimate the hate and stupidity of the American electorate. yourout Jan 8 #60

What's fucked up is that you think your brain is fucked up to thinks these things. Clouds Passing Jan 8 #61

No conspiracy. Just morons, idiots, racists, white nationalist neo-nazis, dominionists, and misogynists. Oopsie Daisy Jan 8 #62

Starlink Jughead Jan 8 #63

No, not enough said Abnredleg Jan 8 #130

So we know the Chinese have been hacking the government since at least October right? questionseverything Jan 9 #209

The Chinese have hacked networks connected to the Internet Abnredleg Jan 9 #210

It's only the reporting page that needs hacked questionseverything Jan 9 #211

That is very incorrect Abnredleg Jan 9 #212

Thats like Southern_gent Jan 11 #220

Not fucked up at all! ananda Jan 8 #64

It was just too damn easy INdemo Jan 8 #65

100% agreed relayerbob Jan 8 #68

I am the same way! Initech Jan 8 #69

Never under estimate the STUPIDITY of the "joe rogan" American public. Add to that the racism, sexism, and bigotry that JohnSJ Jan 8 #72

My feelings exactly kimbutgar Jan 8 #75

Oh Well... Mr.Bee Jan 8 #76

So...when we lose it's rigged just like they claimed four years ago? Bengus81 Jan 8 #77

As he said in Georgia.... Hope22 Jan 8 #107

Yeah it's disappointing to lose ZRB Jan 8 #78

The polls continually had it as a close race, even when Biden was our nominee. Omnipresent Jan 8 #79

There's no way he won 7 swing states legitimately - TBF Jan 8 #83

The bullet ballot BS was just that - BS Wiz Imp Jan 8 #88

You do realize that the bullet ballot theory was immediately disproven right? EdmondDantes_ Jan 8 #89

you do realize NJCher Jan 8 #96

No there really isn't. The other stuff was primarily based on feels EdmondDantes_ Jan 8 #174

What a joke NJCher Jan 8 #187

You're only repeating yourself NJCher Jan 9 #194

Spot on, Botany dlilafae Jan 8 #90

I agree. Grumpy Old Guy Jan 8 #92

It's not a stretch to distrust a proven liar and a cheat and a Russian Asset... suegeo Jan 8 #99

I still hate George W. Bush. He also stole his office. suegeo Jan 8 #112

I'm sorry, but did you just say Unladen Swallow Jan 9 #208

re your NJCher Jan 8 #100

Trust me I have lived with myself my whole life and I'm a dumb ass .. Botany Jan 8 #101

Botany.......... Upthevibe Jan 8 #102

I just toss it on top of the pile... stillcool Jan 8 #103

The election was stolded!!! Bonx Jan 8 #104

I guess..... Lokee11 Jan 8 #105

It it was stolen.. Escape Jan 8 #106

I think the same vankuria Jan 8 #108

Google France and Elon election interference Linda ladeewolf Jan 8 #109

I have seen stories that Musk and Vlad have interfered with other elections in the past. Botany Jan 8 #111

My thoughts on this are I 100% know something happened. bluestarone Jan 8 #110

Agreed. yellow dahlia Jan 8 #178

If any of this is true, this logic demands that Biden and Harris are complicit in the "theft" tritsofme Jan 8 #113

It was legit sarisataka Jan 8 #114

I have noticed this trend at DU for a long time. totodeinhere Jan 11 #219

Turns out that running a fair election is actually quite difficult. Aussie105 Jan 8 #115

I think a lot of stuff went on, but too many people stayed home. valleyrogue Jan 8 #116

Recommended. H2O Man Jan 8 #117

Magic isn't pulling a rabbit out of a hat - it's manipulating perceptions. alittlelark Jan 8 #118

Neither can I. Just can't shake it. But, for now, we move on. Joinfortmill Jan 8 #119

Greg Palast 90-percent Jan 8 #120

Lots of good questions but no answers Hassler Jan 8 #121

I will say this. OldBaldy1701E Jan 8 #122

And in contesting the 2020 election "they" got a hold of the voting machines and tabulators hardware and software. Botany Jan 8 #125

Republicans ALWAYS throw up a smoke screen to accuse other people of doing what they themselves are actually doing. hadEnuf Jan 8 #168

Their MO, from the recess yard...appropriately. yellow dahlia Jan 8 #181

Totally agree gopiscrap Jan 8 #123

I'm with you DingleBerryNW Jan 8 #124

How did it get by every Democratic elections expert? ibegurpard Jan 8 #126

You are not alone... Bluethroughu Jan 8 #127

From the point of view re Republican voter disenfranchisement B.See Jan 8 #128

100% Agree yankee87 Jan 8 #131

We the People will never know the extent of AI and propaganda from other countries that soaked into millions of voters Evolve Dammit Jan 8 #132

What was drumpf and little johnson's 'little secret"???? tazcat Jan 8 #136

Of Course He Stole It DET Jan 8 #138

I asked the same questions. yellow dahlia Jan 8 #183

I hate indulging in such conspiracy theories, but in the back of my mind I just... the nelm Jan 8 #140

The "stolen election" was a smoke screen. hadEnuf Jan 8 #172

Back in 2020 The Wizard Jan 8 #157

If trump just won in every swing state and every other state stayed that same DetroitLegalBeagle Jan 8 #158

In 2920, I got flyers from both campaigns asking me to vote by mail Kaleva Jan 8 #180

I've wondered for years about the "shy Trump voter" phenomenon in polls AdamGG Jan 8 #159

I suggest Iowa maga are more gaslightable than Mass maga; more susceptible to fears about Deep State. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 8 #160

Good point AdamGG Jan 8 #161

Yes. What if the polls were not wrong? yellow dahlia Jan 8 #184

Do you mean the polls that on average were right where the election was? EdmondDantes_ Jan 10 #217

Agree Meowmee Jan 8 #164

I feel the same. Control-Z Jan 8 #170

The hardest thing for me to understand is the lower turnout of Democratic voters. 3catwoman3 Jan 8 #171

We aren't election deniers. That's trump's schtick. Groundhawg Jan 8 #176

And yet, this thread Unladen Swallow Jan 9 #201

I am not convince it was legit. NOT AT ALL vapor2 Jan 8 #182

I think he stole 2016 and tried in 2020. 58Sunliner Jan 9 #188

I could not understand how samplegirl Jan 9 #189

Nothing wrong w your brain that I can see, Botany. I have the same questions & more. Hekate Jan 9 #190

We lost. I for one will take the loss graciously. William769 Jan 9 #191

Indeed. Patton French Jan 9 #198

Me either. Those bullet ballots probably came from the same print shop as the fake elector documents. Vinca Jan 9 #199

Could someone PLEASE give more info: "What was Musk doing compiling a d-base list of votes that could be brought in..." ._. Jan 9 #200

As near as I can tell and or guess Musk bought (not registered? I'll give you $100 to register. Musk) .... Botany Jan 9 #204

This message was self-deleted by its author ._. Jan 9 #213

Watch how fast that "they" push the total scam that is Crypto now. The Crypto boys were in on the steal. Botany Jan 9 #215

This message was self-deleted by its author ._. Jan 10 #218

If you make politics your religion, your brain will have difficulty processing contrary information Jose Garcia Jan 9 #202

My brain has always had difficulties in processing information. Botany Jan 9 #203

You don't think that the election was legitimate because you don't want to believe that Trump totodeinhere Jan 9 #205

This message was self-deleted by its author ._. Jan 9 #214