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Celerity

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16. Biden had far less perceived baggage than Clinton, and the misogyny factor would have went poof.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 04:38 PM
Dec 24

My choices for 2016 were, in order:

Obama 3rd term (Constitutionally barred from that)

Biden (didn't run)

Recently retired 4 Star Admiral William H. McRaven, commander of the United States Special Operations Command, superb public speaker, commanding presence, and he was the military leader who got bin Laden (did not run)

Martin O'Malley (dropped out)

After that I just voted for Clinton in the general.

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Biden must have been OK with Garland because he could have replaced him at anytime, or told him to crank it up. Silent Type Dec 24 #1
But you know that's not true Orrex Dec 24 #11
"a mistake that Biden openly acknowledged" Polybius Dec 24 #12
"Mistake" was the wrong word for me to use there Orrex Dec 24 #15
Ahh yes, I remember him saying something like that Polybius Dec 24 #17
God forbid we wouldn't want to be attacked 24/7 by right wing propaganda and every Republican in government Hassin Bin Sober Dec 24 #22
You've clearly got it all figured out, so paint us a picture. Orrex Dec 24 #23
they might even call us commies and terrorists and perophiles who murder children rampartd Dec 25 #33
Absolutely Cthulu on call Dec 25 #37
Sure Cirsium Dec 25 #29
While not dissing Garland, I believe we would've been better served by a more aggressive AG. n/t Dennis Donovan Dec 24 #2
Agree republianmushroom Dec 24 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Dec 24 #4
lol what silly nonsense. tritsofme Dec 24 #5
Or not running for the Dem Nomination in 2016 maxsolomon Dec 24 #6
Only one sitting VP was directly elected President in 150 years, and that was George HW Bush Polybius Dec 24 #13
Even so it still might have been a worse decision than Garland as AG. RockRaven Dec 25 #26
Think Obama and Clinton had an agreement RhapsodyFav Dec 25 #28
No. Running for reelection was Jose Garcia Dec 24 #7
The worst was not running in 2016. He would have likely defeated Clinton, then Trump. Celerity Dec 24 #8
Maybe Polybius Dec 24 #14
Biden had far less perceived baggage than Clinton, and the misogyny factor would have went poof. Celerity Dec 24 #16
I'm not saying Biden would have lost, I just don't know Polybius Dec 24 #19
Not a chance Biden could have defeated Clinton in the 2016 primaries, IMO. Just like in 2008, she had about half the Midwestern Democrat Dec 25 #36
Only once in the last 70 years has the same party won three elections in a row MichMan Dec 25 #31
well, Clinton was not the answer, and now here we all sit Celerity Dec 25 #35
Check DU around the time Biden was elected. Pretty sure the sense at DU RandomNumbers Dec 24 #9
a 'maga' that prosecuted over 1200 maga rioters bigtree Dec 24 #10
Thank you yet again Hekate Dec 24 #21
Even without Garland Blue_Tires Dec 24 #18
Jesus, people. Maybe give it a rest for one or two freaking days? You are all going to miss Biden when he's gone Hekate Dec 24 #20
Never, Garland deserves all the hate Sewa Dec 25 #24
Merry freaking Christmas to you, too. Felicitations of the season. Hekate Dec 25 #25
Can't argue with that, he was recommended to Obama for SCOTUS by a Republican. nt doc03 Dec 25 #27
My view remains qazplm135 Dec 25 #30
Garland is a wrecking ball. Bluethroughu Dec 25 #32
Running for re-election was the worst decision Biden ever made In It to Win It Dec 25 #34
At this point fuck optics Cthulu on call Dec 25 #38
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