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In reply to the discussion: Garland's Decisions For 2 Investigations [View all]Fiendish Thingy
(18,800 posts)46. Still quite inaccurate
"We shit on you, insulted you, name-called and swarmed you FOR YEARS and insisted the DOJ was going to do something. Ok, it never happened, andnow we know it won't, but there's no way we're going to admit we were wrong
Your statement still frames the argument as DOJ did nothing , and those of us defending reality know that is factually inaccurate, that DOJ did indeed do something (investigate and prosecute Trump) despite obstruction and delays from both career staff and the courts.
Then you double down and call those who point out this observable, measurable reality (DOJ did indeed investigate and prosecute Trump) apologists. The defense of reality requires no apologies.
If anyone is acting as an apologists, it is those who completely ignore (and apparently accept and forgive) the indisputable, critical role the courts, especially SCOTUS played in enabling Trump to evade justice. No matter who the AG was - Schiff, Kirschner, Weissman, Yates, you pick - the delays and obstruction by the courts and the ultimate outcome - no trial before the election - would have been the same.
I am fully expecting your reply to move the goalposts (yes, Garland and DOJ did something, but it was slow, incompetent and not aggressive enough, etc.) I can only have a discussion with you based on your actual words , which is why I have quoted you in my reply.
P.S. I dont think Ive ever insulted anyone personally- I have ridiculed the errors in their arguments and questioned their motivation for spreading provably false information, but did not insult or call them names. Believe it or not, we all wanted to see Trump behind bars.
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Of course. They're doing secret things behind the scenes and it's not a Law & Order episode.
Scrivener7
20 hrs ago
#58
So it is only for the people who disagree with you. Somehow, that doesn't surprise me at all.
Scrivener7
20 hrs ago
#60
Are you talking about DOJ's non-public actions during the early part of the investigation?
Fiendish Thingy
19 hrs ago
#62
Walk me through how Garland, or any AG of your choosing, could have circumvented the courts' obstruction
Fiendish Thingy
19 hrs ago
#70
If you've been here since 2003, surely you've seen the pushback on gab's Garland bashing
Fiendish Thingy
Monday
#14
Fact. We are now on the road to a fascist dictatorship. Fact. The actual criminals now have full power and have
hadEnuf
21 hrs ago
#45
Sorry, Garland concentrated on putting away a few small fish while trying not to look "political" to the big fish.
hadEnuf
19 hrs ago
#61
Too bad you weren't around to advise the civil rights leaders when they called out injustices in the 50's and 60's.
58Sunliner
20 hrs ago
#49
If Biden felt it was such a mistake to pick Garland, why didn't he fire him a couple of years ago?
TheRickles
Monday
#17
Because it would have looked awful with a pending investigation against Hunter.
SunSeeker
Monday
#21
If you think about that question in terms of political reality, you'll have your answer
Orrex
18 hrs ago
#71
He could have urged Garland to retire in order to spend more time with him family.....
TheRickles
18 hrs ago
#73
I was a Garland supporter for the first year or two. What a major, total disappointment he is, even derelict.
MLAA
Monday
#29