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karynnj

(60,012 posts)
59. I get the inclination to accept an election and to hope for a successful country
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 12:32 PM
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I imagine that Trump's win in PA and Senator Casey's loss may have seemed like a wakeup call for him. Could it be he sees his constituents wanting him to give Trump a chance. I'llI hope what Fetterman MEANT was that he hoped the US would be successful during the Trump presidency. Even Mitch McConnell suggested that Republican Senate institutionalist might temper some of the Trump goals.

Fetterman could have hoped that Trump would fail to get the vast majority of his extreme agenda through the Congress. This failure would be good for the country because the huge tax cuts, cuts to programs, tariffs, attacks on long term allies, and support for authoritarian governments are bad for the United States.

I imagine his hope is to position himself as someone they can negotiate with, not someone who will knee jerk accept positions he always disagreed with.

Fetterman was a hero here because of not being a regular politician, like Conor Lamb. He was called a populist, which he is. That does not make him a liberal, a Democratic socialist. He is absolutely not like Bernie Sanders, whose votes or positions have never surprised me. Vermont's local cable station has tapes of him speaking in the 1980s as mayor of Burlington. His basic values and goals never changed. Are there people from PA who have followed Fetterman who can say the same of him? Did he change from 2022 or did we at DU see what we wanted to see?

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WTF? bluestarone Sunday #1
And to think I was glad when he was elected Walleye Sunday #2
is his brain ok? samnsara Sunday #3
He probably caught junior's worms. Dave Bowman Sunday #7
Must be the cholesterol n/t AntiFascist Sunday #98
He should quit freaking out about Democrats trying to rein in the dick wad platoon. Autumn Sunday #4
This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Sunday #6
He's a merger between Joe Manchin and Sinema MagickMuffin Sunday #37
I always thought he was a disrespectful bum bedazzled Sunday #75
Agree. He's a show-boater Bread and Circuses Sunday #89
Post removed Post removed Sunday #5
Fetterman: "I never believed that it was about fascism... that's not a word that regular people use." (video) Dennis Donovan Sunday #8
This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Sunday #11
Glad you re-posted this Mike 03 Sunday #15
Doesn't he look like a dumbass, displacedvermoter Sunday #38
Who are these "regular people" I keep hearing about? Solly Mack Sunday #49
The unwashed masses, the great unhosed. Abolishinist Sunday #95
I'll get right on that after my shower. Solly Mack Sunday #96
White folks... Blue_Tires Sunday #114
TY.. Call me Anti "regular" Fetterman! Cha Sunday #108
"...that's not a word that regular people use..." Blue_Tires Sunday #109
Yes, we should chill out while the orange nazi burns our house down, his meds must be really kicking in. nt yaesu Sunday #9
BUT but we don't know if he is an arsonist or not dalton99a Sunday #12
Self preservation NCDem47 Sunday #10
Sinema did that qazplm135 Sunday #129
If Senator Fetterman wants to set a low bar for Trump, that's his prerogative Quiet Em Sunday #13
So it's ok to destroy democracy while.... Lovie777 Sunday #14
I make my own decisions, Senator Fetterman. greatauntoftriplets Sunday #16
One disappointing statement after another from this clown. La Coliniere Sunday #17
I hate this guy. His Schtick is indeed helping fascism take hold nini Sunday #18
No Fetterman, if Trump is successful kansasobama Sunday #19
Yeah, listen to the good Senator from PA Mike 03 Sunday #20
This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Sunday #22
Exactly... Blue_Tires Sunday #110
Yeah Fetterman is Not only Pumping Up Mump.. he's Cha Sunday #119
He's lost his mind. spanone Sunday #21
Sen. FetterManchin doubleplusgood Sunday #23
What I was thinking too. He is replacing Mansion's penchant for kissing GOP butt. GreenWave Sunday #26
For the last 2-3 generations, the Party has welcomed free agents Bluetus Sunday #82
Amen. keep_left Sunday #90
If Senator Fetterman is primaried and loses the primary we will lose that PA Senate seat. However, kelly1mm Sunday #93
Good point Bluetus Sunday #97
When he was first on the public stage, prior to the stroke, he seemed sharp and funny and allegorical oracle Sunday #113
Hard to say Bluetus Sunday #125
Co-signed Blue_Tires Sunday #111
!@@!@ $$%%!! MayReasonRule Sunday #24
That would be acceptable advice under normal circumstances John. bluesbassman Sunday #25
Adjudicated insurrectionist as well Alice Kramden Sunday #64
Just stay elected and remain caucusing with the Dems. aeromanKC Sunday #27
I've seen this story play out before Blue_Tires Sunday #115
DINO NameAlreadyTaken Sunday #28
What, is he looking to be more of a player in tRump's inner circle??? a kennedy Sunday #29
Post removed Post removed Sunday #30
Definitely seems something's wrong with him mvd Sunday #31
The leopard does not just eat your face spapeggy Sunday #32
Fettermam wants Trump to succeed in destroying American democracy? Martin Eden Sunday #33
Beyond brushing aside Trump being inherently evil, True Dough Sunday #34
"He hasn't even taken office yet"????? tanyev Sunday #35
Is there a word, a name for someone who comes within a hair of losing life/livelihood/voice hlthe2b Sunday #36
here's a word: weak orleans Sunday #69
"Quisling" Blue_Tires Sunday #112
His cognition was greatly impaired by that stroke. WhiteTara Sunday #39
The stroke could be a factor, or he's trying to keep hold of his home district TBF Sunday #81
Nah, I think he's got some really shitty advisors Blue_Tires Sunday #117
i hope the USA is successful, not individual politicians Takket Sunday #40
OK, Big John, you can sit down and chill. no_hypocrisy Sunday #41
DINO ? republianmushroom Sunday #42
I hope Shapiro primaries him in 2028. Nt Fiendish Thingy Sunday #43
I think he has bigger plans in 2028 Polybius Sunday #48
Shapiro is young, and has a long career in public service ahead of him. Fiendish Thingy Sunday #61
Perhaps a VP then Polybius Sunday #73
I'd rather see him replace Fetterman, and run for president later Fiendish Thingy Sunday #101
Go ahead and switch parties already. So sick of this Dino. brush Sunday #44
He should resign asm128 Sunday #77
If Senator Fetterman resigns, Governor Shapiro will appoint a temporary replacement but it pretty much a toss up kelly1mm Sunday #94
My wife and I contributed a lot of money to his senate campaign. Needless to say, we are very disappointed. Borogove Sunday #45
I'm sorry I got taken in by him. Crunchy Frog Sunday #46
I think Fetterman is panicking, delisen Sunday #47
That's not what any Repug said about President Biden. Kid Berwyn Sunday #50
Or Obama. Rush openly said he was rooting against his country. underpants Sunday #55
Is he happy with the bipartisan bill Trump edhopper Sunday #51
Retribution against all opponents, tax cuts for billionaires, dismantling the government, ... dalton99a Sunday #53
Simple slogans for simple minds. Solly Mack Sunday #52
Maybe trump will successfully deport Fetterman's wife back to Brazil. strongermessage Sunday #54
Yes, but how is he going to vote? ananda Sunday #56
I fear this means... regnaD kciN Sunday #71
Yes, this is sad beyond belief. ananda Sunday #85
I am all for my country. Too bad the President-elect is not. LoisB Sunday #57
I'm not surprised. Democrats in PA were flipping out talking about how awesome he was..almost helpisontheway Sunday #58
I get the inclination to accept an election and to hope for a successful country karynnj Sunday #59
New Guy Says We Oughtta... Drum Sunday #60
TYS! Oopsie Daisy Sunday #62
I don't want trump to fail either, but I'm expecting immense failure. Silent Type Sunday #63
Knowing what trump would consider success, yes, I do want him to fail. Think. Again. Sunday #86
Post removed Post removed Sunday #65
From his lips to Trump's ass. Ping Tung Sunday #66
WTF? If Trump is "successful" it means we commoners are severely screwed. Vinca Sunday #67
Oh, shut up, Fetterman. alarimer Sunday #68
What does success look like? Mz Pip Sunday #70
Definition of success is critical to which course I prefer. Bluethroughu Sunday #72
Let's see how Fetterman feels when Trump's ignorance, stupidity and avarice drags us into Baitball Blogger Sunday #74
ROOTING for TRUMP.. Escape Sunday #76
I don't need to root against them because I know it's coming. yourout Sunday #78
Infiltrators and posers are why Democrats aren't more successful. live love laugh Sunday #79
I think the Senator has been infected with Pennsylvania coal, oil and gas interests bucolic_frolic Sunday #80
Fascism is not a word regular people use? slightlv Sunday #83
Well, looks like trump Bettie Sunday #84
I guess fetterman is tired of having his wife and kids around? Think. Again. Sunday #87
I've made comments about a hoodie wearing Senator.... Bread and Circuses Sunday #88
He's surely been a huge disappointment... buzzycrumbhunger Sunday #91
He makes the mistake of conflating rooting for prosperity and health vs Trump's policies. nt DontBelieveEastisEas Sunday #92
F him. For the country to succeed (or not fail), trump MUST fail at his agenda. themaguffin Sunday #99
Regular people? Meowmee Sunday #100
It's perfectly appropriate to hope J_William_Ryan Sunday #102
That depends on what you call "success" Turbineguy Sunday #103
When have Republicans helped the country? C_U_L8R Sunday #104
Wow.. it's like he doesn't know the History. Cha Sunday #124
This is probably over the top but could Musk rainy Sunday #105
Possibly... Blue_Tires Sunday #116
Not touching this one... Blue_Tires Sunday #106
I wish he would shut his mouth. GentryDixon Sunday #107
In what altwernate universe is Fetterman lving in? GoreWon2000 Sunday #118
with all due respect F** *you DonCoquixote Sunday #120
He has a short memory blueseas Sunday #121
The minute I saw the hoodie Henry203 Sunday #122
What a disappointment he turned out to be BluenFLA Sunday #123
Wow he's become an ass BlueKota Sunday #126
I thought Fetterman was a better man Blue Owl Sunday #127
Dud Wifes husband Sunday #128
How often has Fetterman been on the Sunday talk shows? W_HAMILTON Sunday #130
Because that's what they DO. What they are. Cha Sunday #132
Sigh... "Successful" at What Big guy? His Project 2025.. Cutting Cha Sunday #131
Fetterman's advice is very normal. HOWEVER, these are *not normal* times.... Dem4life1970 Sunday #133
I have always admired Fetterman and he knows his constituents better question everything Sunday #134
FUCK Fetterman. Sky Jewels Sunday #135
Nice try, John. roamer65 Sunday #136
I'm watching Ayman and even Joe Walsh went off on fetterman ecstatic Sunday #137
Meet the new Manchin/Sinema. There must always be one turncoat to undermine Democrats efforts. ZonkerHarris Sunday #138
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