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This message was self-deleted by its author (Original Post) dalton99a Sunday OP
WTF? bluestarone Sunday #1
And to think I was glad when he was elected Walleye Sunday #2
is his brain ok? samnsara Sunday #3
He probably caught junior's worms. Dave Bowman Sunday #7
Must be the cholesterol n/t AntiFascist Sunday #98
He should quit freaking out about Democrats trying to rein in the dick wad platoon. Autumn Sunday #4
This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Sunday #6
He's a merger between Joe Manchin and Sinema MagickMuffin Sunday #37
I always thought he was a disrespectful bum bedazzled Sunday #75
Agree. He's a show-boater Bread and Circuses Sunday #89
Post removed Post removed Sunday #5
Fetterman: "I never believed that it was about fascism... that's not a word that regular people use." (video) Dennis Donovan Sunday #8
This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Sunday #11
Glad you re-posted this Mike 03 Sunday #15
Doesn't he look like a dumbass, displacedvermoter Sunday #38
Who are these "regular people" I keep hearing about? Solly Mack Sunday #49
The unwashed masses, the great unhosed. Abolishinist Sunday #95
I'll get right on that after my shower. Solly Mack Sunday #96
White folks... Blue_Tires Sunday #114
TY.. Call me Anti "regular" Fetterman! Cha Sunday #108
"...that's not a word that regular people use..." Blue_Tires Sunday #109
Yes, we should chill out while the orange nazi burns our house down, his meds must be really kicking in. nt yaesu Sunday #9
BUT but we don't know if he is an arsonist or not dalton99a Sunday #12
Self preservation NCDem47 Sunday #10
Sinema did that qazplm135 Sunday #129
If Senator Fetterman wants to set a low bar for Trump, that's his prerogative Quiet Em Sunday #13
So it's ok to destroy democracy while.... Lovie777 Sunday #14
I make my own decisions, Senator Fetterman. greatauntoftriplets Sunday #16
One disappointing statement after another from this clown. La Coliniere Sunday #17
I hate this guy. His Schtick is indeed helping fascism take hold nini Sunday #18
No Fetterman, if Trump is successful kansasobama Sunday #19
Yeah, listen to the good Senator from PA Mike 03 Sunday #20
This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Sunday #22
Exactly... Blue_Tires Sunday #110
Yeah Fetterman is Not only Pumping Up Mump.. he's Cha Sunday #119
He's lost his mind. spanone Sunday #21
Sen. FetterManchin doubleplusgood Sunday #23
What I was thinking too. He is replacing Mansion's penchant for kissing GOP butt. GreenWave Sunday #26
For the last 2-3 generations, the Party has welcomed free agents Bluetus Sunday #82
Amen. keep_left Sunday #90
If Senator Fetterman is primaried and loses the primary we will lose that PA Senate seat. However, kelly1mm Sunday #93
Good point Bluetus Sunday #97
When he was first on the public stage, prior to the stroke, he seemed sharp and funny and allegorical oracle Sunday #113
Hard to say Bluetus Sunday #125
Co-signed Blue_Tires Sunday #111
!@@!@ $$%%!! MayReasonRule Sunday #24
That would be acceptable advice under normal circumstances John. bluesbassman Sunday #25
Adjudicated insurrectionist as well Alice Kramden Sunday #64
Just stay elected and remain caucusing with the Dems. aeromanKC Sunday #27
I've seen this story play out before Blue_Tires Sunday #115
DINO NameAlreadyTaken Sunday #28
What, is he looking to be more of a player in tRump's inner circle??? a kennedy Sunday #29
Post removed Post removed Sunday #30
Definitely seems something's wrong with him mvd Sunday #31
The leopard does not just eat your face spapeggy Sunday #32
Fettermam wants Trump to succeed in destroying American democracy? Martin Eden Sunday #33
Beyond brushing aside Trump being inherently evil, True Dough Sunday #34
"He hasn't even taken office yet"????? tanyev Sunday #35
Is there a word, a name for someone who comes within a hair of losing life/livelihood/voice hlthe2b Sunday #36
here's a word: weak orleans Sunday #69
"Quisling" Blue_Tires Sunday #112
His cognition was greatly impaired by that stroke. WhiteTara Sunday #39
The stroke could be a factor, or he's trying to keep hold of his home district TBF Sunday #81
Nah, I think he's got some really shitty advisors Blue_Tires Sunday #117
i hope the USA is successful, not individual politicians Takket Sunday #40
OK, Big John, you can sit down and chill. no_hypocrisy Sunday #41
DINO ? republianmushroom Sunday #42
I hope Shapiro primaries him in 2028. Nt Fiendish Thingy Sunday #43
I think he has bigger plans in 2028 Polybius Sunday #48
Shapiro is young, and has a long career in public service ahead of him. Fiendish Thingy Sunday #61
Perhaps a VP then Polybius Sunday #73
I'd rather see him replace Fetterman, and run for president later Fiendish Thingy Sunday #101
Go ahead and switch parties already. So sick of this Dino. brush Sunday #44
He should resign asm128 Sunday #77
If Senator Fetterman resigns, Governor Shapiro will appoint a temporary replacement but it pretty much a toss up kelly1mm Sunday #94
My wife and I contributed a lot of money to his senate campaign. Needless to say, we are very disappointed. Borogove Sunday #45
I'm sorry I got taken in by him. Crunchy Frog Sunday #46
I think Fetterman is panicking, delisen Sunday #47
That's not what any Repug said about President Biden. Kid Berwyn Sunday #50
Or Obama. Rush openly said he was rooting against his country. underpants Sunday #55
Is he happy with the bipartisan bill Trump edhopper Sunday #51
Retribution against all opponents, tax cuts for billionaires, dismantling the government, ... dalton99a Sunday #53
Simple slogans for simple minds. Solly Mack Sunday #52
Maybe trump will successfully deport Fetterman's wife back to Brazil. strongermessage Sunday #54
Yes, but how is he going to vote? ananda Sunday #56
I fear this means... regnaD kciN Sunday #71
Yes, this is sad beyond belief. ananda Sunday #85
I am all for my country. Too bad the President-elect is not. LoisB Sunday #57
I'm not surprised. Democrats in PA were flipping out talking about how awesome he was..almost helpisontheway Sunday #58
I get the inclination to accept an election and to hope for a successful country karynnj Sunday #59
New Guy Says We Oughtta... Drum Sunday #60
TYS! Oopsie Daisy Sunday #62
I don't want trump to fail either, but I'm expecting immense failure. Silent Type Sunday #63
Knowing what trump would consider success, yes, I do want him to fail. Think. Again. Sunday #86
Post removed Post removed Sunday #65
From his lips to Trump's ass. Ping Tung Sunday #66
WTF? If Trump is "successful" it means we commoners are severely screwed. Vinca Sunday #67
Oh, shut up, Fetterman. alarimer Sunday #68
What does success look like? Mz Pip Sunday #70
Definition of success is critical to which course I prefer. Bluethroughu Sunday #72
Let's see how Fetterman feels when Trump's ignorance, stupidity and avarice drags us into Baitball Blogger Sunday #74
ROOTING for TRUMP.. Escape Sunday #76
I don't need to root against them because I know it's coming. yourout Sunday #78
Infiltrators and posers are why Democrats aren't more successful. live love laugh Sunday #79
I think the Senator has been infected with Pennsylvania coal, oil and gas interests bucolic_frolic Sunday #80
Fascism is not a word regular people use? slightlv Sunday #83
Well, looks like trump Bettie Sunday #84
I guess fetterman is tired of having his wife and kids around? Think. Again. Sunday #87
I've made comments about a hoodie wearing Senator.... Bread and Circuses Sunday #88
He's surely been a huge disappointment... buzzycrumbhunger Sunday #91
He makes the mistake of conflating rooting for prosperity and health vs Trump's policies. nt DontBelieveEastisEas Sunday #92
F him. For the country to succeed (or not fail), trump MUST fail at his agenda. themaguffin Sunday #99
Regular people? Meowmee Sunday #100
It's perfectly appropriate to hope J_William_Ryan Sunday #102
That depends on what you call "success" Turbineguy Sunday #103
When have Republicans helped the country? C_U_L8R Sunday #104
Wow.. it's like he doesn't know the History. Cha Sunday #124
This is probably over the top but could Musk rainy Sunday #105
Possibly... Blue_Tires Sunday #116
Not touching this one... Blue_Tires Sunday #106
I wish he would shut his mouth. GentryDixon Sunday #107
In what altwernate universe is Fetterman lving in? GoreWon2000 Sunday #118
with all due respect F** *you DonCoquixote Sunday #120
He has a short memory blueseas Sunday #121
The minute I saw the hoodie Henry203 Sunday #122
What a disappointment he turned out to be BluenFLA Sunday #123
Wow he's become an ass BlueKota Sunday #126
I thought Fetterman was a better man Blue Owl Sunday #127
Dud Wifes husband Sunday #128
How often has Fetterman been on the Sunday talk shows? W_HAMILTON Sunday #130
Because that's what they DO. What they are. Cha Sunday #132
Sigh... "Successful" at What Big guy? His Project 2025.. Cutting Cha Sunday #131
Fetterman's advice is very normal. HOWEVER, these are *not normal* times.... Dem4life1970 Sunday #133
I have always admired Fetterman and he knows his constituents better question everything Sunday #134
FUCK Fetterman. Sky Jewels Sunday #135
Nice try, John. roamer65 Sunday #136
I'm watching Ayman and even Joe Walsh went off on fetterman ecstatic Sunday #137
Meet the new Manchin/Sinema. There must always be one turncoat to undermine Democrats efforts. ZonkerHarris Sunday #138

bluestarone

(18,405 posts)
1. WTF?
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 10:59 AM
Sunday

Holy shit!!

Walleye

(36,390 posts)
2. And to think I was glad when he was elected
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:00 AM
Sunday

samnsara

(18,300 posts)
3. is his brain ok?
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:02 AM
Sunday

Dave Bowman

(3,857 posts)
7. He probably caught junior's worms.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:08 AM
Sunday

AntiFascist

(12,976 posts)
98. Must be the cholesterol n/t
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 02:54 PM
Sunday

Autumn

(46,660 posts)
4. He should quit freaking out about Democrats trying to rein in the dick wad platoon.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:02 AM
Sunday

I don't think it will be too long till he changes parties.

Response to Autumn (Reply #4)

MagickMuffin

(17,201 posts)
37. He's a merger between Joe Manchin and Sinema
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:50 AM
Sunday


Talks and acts like Joe, dresses like Sinema.

I was disappointed when the Senate relaxed the dress code for Fetterman. I think it shows disrespect for the office.


bedazzled

(1,856 posts)
75. I always thought he was a disrespectful bum
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 01:47 PM
Sunday

Ugh

Bread and Circuses

(235 posts)
89. Agree. He's a show-boater
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 02:20 PM
Sunday

Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Dennis Donovan

(27,401 posts)
8. Fetterman: "I never believed that it was about fascism... that's not a word that regular people use." (video)
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:09 AM
Sunday
Aaron Rupar
Fetterman says Trump has "political talent that's undeniable" and adds, "I never believed that it was about fascism ... that's not a word that regular people use."
Video in tweet below
10:23 AM · Dec 22, 2024





https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3ldvpxmqb3k2n

Response to Dennis Donovan (Reply #8)

Mike 03

(17,361 posts)
15. Glad you re-posted this
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:20 AM
Sunday

It's frankly unbelievable.

Luckily, we have people here at DU who have followed his career pretty closely and have surmised what could possibly be going on.

displacedvermoter

(3,226 posts)
38. Doesn't he look like a dumbass,
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:51 AM
Sunday

And sounds like one, too...

Jeezus, we are in dire times.

Solly Mack

(93,207 posts)
49. Who are these "regular people" I keep hearing about?
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 12:16 PM
Sunday

Are the rest of us irregular?

Abolishinist

(2,070 posts)
95. The unwashed masses, the great unhosed.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 02:47 PM
Sunday

Wear your irregularity proudly!

Solly Mack

(93,207 posts)
96. I'll get right on that after my shower.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 02:50 PM
Sunday

Blue_Tires

(56,725 posts)
114. White folks...
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 03:55 PM
Sunday

Cha

(305,853 posts)
108. TY.. Call me Anti "regular" Fetterman!
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 03:32 PM
Sunday
Has he no memory of Jan6?!

So he voted for TSF? Mump?

This whole thing needs to be Bookmarked!!

Blue_Tires

(56,725 posts)
109. "...that's not a word that regular people use..."
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 03:38 PM
Sunday

Signed,

All the so-called "regular" working class Midwestern white folks who have been calling Dems "Commies," "Marxists," "Socialists," and "Stalinists" the last 40+ years... 😒

yaesu

(8,354 posts)
9. Yes, we should chill out while the orange nazi burns our house down, his meds must be really kicking in. nt
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:10 AM
Sunday

dalton99a

(84,881 posts)
12. BUT but we don't know if he is an arsonist or not
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:14 AM
Sunday

and if he is, we don't know if he is going to burn down OUR house


NCDem47

(2,593 posts)
10. Self preservation
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:11 AM
Sunday

Senses the mood of his constituents from this past election and is leaning into that. While I get go-along-to-get-along, his openess to Trump is really going against Democratic values.

qazplm135

(7,528 posts)
129. Sinema did that
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 08:22 PM
Sunday

How'd it work out for her?

He's the one overreacting to one election.

Quiet Em

(1,184 posts)
13. If Senator Fetterman wants to set a low bar for Trump, that's his prerogative
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:17 AM
Sunday

But I'm not going to ignore Trumps vast history of sexism, racism, fraud, cons, complete lack of empathy, cruelty, bad behavior, and ignorance.

I set my bar a lot higher.

Lovie777

(15,211 posts)
14. So it's ok to destroy democracy while....
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:18 AM
Sunday

People are suffering.

I’m not going to chill out.

greatauntoftriplets

(177,006 posts)
16. I make my own decisions, Senator Fetterman.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:21 AM
Sunday

La Coliniere

(1,066 posts)
17. One disappointing statement after another from this clown.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:23 AM
Sunday

He thinks he represents the average working Joe, yet he presents himself as an unemployed 20 year old who lives in his parent’s basement playing video games all day and not recognizing it’s time to change his underwear. Seems to be following in the Manchin, Sinema, Lieberman tradition of political appeasement. His political calculations are simply wrong and quite perplexing.

nini

(16,740 posts)
18. I hate this guy. His Schtick is indeed helping fascism take hold
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:23 AM
Sunday


I get some elected officials have to walk a thin line, but crossing that line to this extent is way over it.

kansasobama

(1,546 posts)
19. No Fetterman, if Trump is successful
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:23 AM
Sunday

Democracy fails. Hitler was successful at first, then what happened?

Mike 03

(17,361 posts)
20. Yeah, listen to the good Senator from PA
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:26 AM
Sunday

We really need to chill out. Go take a CBD THC gummy. Have a martini, or three or four. Take a hot shower. Or a cold shower. Tear off your clothes and roll in the snowbank. Tear your hair out.



Seriously, I really feel for the people of Pennsylvania who broke their asses and donated every extra cent they could find to get this person elected. Many of us here in Arizona who supported Kyrsten Sinema truly know what some of you might be going through, and it's an atrocious feeling.

Response to Mike 03 (Reply #20)

Blue_Tires

(56,725 posts)
110. Exactly...
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 03:39 PM
Sunday

Cha

(305,853 posts)
119. Yeah Fetterman is Not only Pumping Up Mump.. he's
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 04:08 PM
Sunday

Insulting those who worked so hard to get him in the Senate.


Wow. "Chill out".. is that what the Good Germans did in the 1930s?

And LOOK At the SCOTUS, Fetterman!!!!!!!

How you feeling about E Jean Carroll, Fetterman?!

Don't Gaslight me, bro.

spanone

(137,662 posts)
21. He's lost his mind.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:27 AM
Sunday

doubleplusgood

(955 posts)
23. Sen. FetterManchin
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:30 AM
Sunday

GreenWave

(9,442 posts)
26. What I was thinking too. He is replacing Mansion's penchant for kissing GOP butt.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:41 AM
Sunday

Bluetus

(290 posts)
82. For the last 2-3 generations, the Party has welcomed free agents
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 02:01 PM
Sunday

Somebody is always eyeing the "Manchin position". Sinema was going for it, but she was such a flake, she set herself up to lose in a primary.

So, up steps Fetterman. Time to start preparing someone to take him out in 2028. It is never too soon when we are talking about Party loyalty. If Fetterman sees that there is a serious effort to push him out, he will behave himself. But frankly, I'm sick of the guy already.

I hope whomever is chosen as the DNC chair understands that we have to make discipline a priority. There are times that a Senator or Rep needs a "conscience vote" because of the makeup of the state or district. But there is no such excuse for what Fetterman is doing.

keep_left

(2,524 posts)
90. Amen.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 02:21 PM
Sunday

kelly1mm

(5,413 posts)
93. If Senator Fetterman is primaried and loses the primary we will lose that PA Senate seat. However,
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 02:37 PM
Sunday

I think there is a good chance he does not run again for medical reasons.

Bluetus

(290 posts)
97. Good point
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 02:52 PM
Sunday

I have probably known 100 people who suffered significant strokes. There is only one I can think of who had a serious stroke and made a recovery to improving health. I play sports with him. He was a college football athlete and always kept himself in good shape. His stroke was atypical, involving an aneurysm in an artery that was not really operable. He received his lat rights, but rallied. Today, he has his full speech and mental capabilities as before. And he has returned to sports at a diminished, but still enjoyable level. The aneurysm is still there and he could drop dead at any moment, but he is really the exception.

I would expect Fetterman to have a steady decline.

allegorical oracle

(3,393 posts)
113. When he was first on the public stage, prior to the stroke, he seemed sharp and funny and
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 03:50 PM
Sunday

like a ideal candidate. Was he faking it? Or should his change be blamed on medical issues? If someone holds tried/true beliefs, it shouldn't be so easily shaken. But then, I've never been with someone who had a stroke.

He is worrisome, 'tho.

Bluetus

(290 posts)
125. Hard to say
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 06:45 PM
Sunday

People change for many reasons, but I don't recognize this version of Fetterman.

There is a sickness in this country now. There is a podcast I listened to regularly. It was a panel of guys that covered a diverse range of interesting topics. I felt like they had a balanced, fact-based view of the topics and I appreciated that. To the extent that truth has a liberal bias, I considered them fairly progressive-minded. Their program was not overtly political, but when their topics interested with political events, they were not afraid to make political commentary that was factual and on point.

Since the election, several of the guys have sounded considerably more MAGA. I found this disappointing because I considered them intelligent, well-grounded people. I don't expect they to become crusaders against Trumpism, but there is no reason for them to show such deference to the MAGA way of thinking.

We are seeing this Overton Window effect EVERYWHERE now.

Blue_Tires

(56,725 posts)
111. Co-signed
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 03:40 PM
Sunday

MayReasonRule

(1,934 posts)
24. !@@!@ $$%%!!
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:34 AM
Sunday


If I said I had even a shred of respect for the individual under discussion I would be lying.

bluesbassman

(19,902 posts)
25. That would be acceptable advice under normal circumstances John.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:39 AM
Sunday

However we’ve never had a convicted felon, adjudicated sexual offender, multiple bankrupted businessman who won an election with the blatantly corrupt help of a billionaire who is now acting as his chief advisor and mouthpiece, and is using that perch to literally bully sitting members of Congress concerning life and death affecting legislation.

And you want us all to “chill out”? Let me put thi as delicately as I can: FUCK ALL THE WAY OFF!

Alice Kramden

(2,432 posts)
64. Adjudicated insurrectionist as well
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 12:56 PM
Sunday

As judged in the state of Colorado

aeromanKC

(3,492 posts)
27. Just stay elected and remain caucusing with the Dems.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:41 AM
Sunday

Other than that, I don't care.

Blue_Tires

(56,725 posts)
115. I've seen this story play out before
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 03:58 PM
Sunday

He's almost certainly going to say sooner or later that "the party has left him behind" or "became too woke" and declare himself an independent thinking it will save his seat

NameAlreadyTaken

(1,644 posts)
28. DINO
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:43 AM
Sunday

a kennedy

(32,321 posts)
29. What, is he looking to be more of a player in tRump's inner circle???
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:44 AM
Sunday

I just can not believe him. That stroke he had really did a number on his noodle. 🤬 🤬 🤬

Response to dalton99a (Original post)

mvd

(65,529 posts)
31. Definitely seems something's wrong with him
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:45 AM
Sunday

Have no idea if it could be the stroke. Not a doctor. But he’s been seriously depressed before and I wonder if something is just not right. Maybe he just fooled us all, which would be so disappointing.

spapeggy

(55 posts)
32. The leopard does not just eat your face
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:45 AM
Sunday

It shows its spots first

Martin Eden

(13,559 posts)
33. Fettermam wants Trump to succeed in destroying American democracy?
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:45 AM
Sunday

Last edited Sun Dec 22, 2024, 02:51 PM - Edit history (1)

Turning the United States into a fascist theocracy?

And a kleptocracy that rewards billionaire donors while cutting the safety net so many folks depend on?

Weaponizing the Justice Dept against political opponents and the free press?

Allowing polluting industries to spew more cancerous toxins and greenhouse gases into our environment?

Deporting 11 million immigrants who have become vital to our economy?

Sparking trade wars, abandoning our allies, and coddling autocrats like Putin and Orban?

Setting back human and gender rights with more SCOTUS appointments?


BECAUSE ALL THE ABOVE is Trump's agenda, and his measure of SUCCESS.

True Dough

(20,835 posts)
34. Beyond brushing aside Trump being inherently evil,
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:47 AM
Sunday

he's not acknowledging Orange Mussolini's cognitive decline, which is likely to accelerate. It only gets worse from here, but thanks for the cheery message, John.

tanyev

(44,733 posts)
35. "He hasn't even taken office yet"?????
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:49 AM
Sunday

He was in office for four catastrophic, corrupt and mind-numbingly incompetent years! And that was WITH so-called traditional Republican guardrails attempting to keep him focused on the things they wanted to accomplish.

Did some men in black do a giant memory wipe of the entire country while a few of us happened to be in a shielded room?

hlthe2b

(106,752 posts)
36. Is there a word, a name for someone who comes within a hair of losing life/livelihood/voice
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:49 AM
Sunday

to stroke and thereafter receiving the unqualified support of millions of people and one's organized political party while many others (and one's opponent) write you off. And that word must take in someone who beyond the former is embraced and succeeds among those who supported you until one day, you are challenged by those now in power who are diametrically opposed to everything you and your supportive millions stood for. Given that, you decide to turn the back and instead gratuitously deride all that you once embraced, so that you can now avoid criticism directed at yourself.

What is a word for that person? I'll leave that an open question lest anyone take my comment in a manner not acceptable to DU. But, I'd encourage all to ponder that question and how that impacts us all going forward.

orleans

(35,242 posts)
69. here's a word: weak
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 01:03 PM
Sunday

or spineless
or disrespectful
or ungracious
or disloyal
or suck up
(heading into swear words now so i'll stop)

Blue_Tires

(56,725 posts)
112. "Quisling"
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 03:49 PM
Sunday

WhiteTara

(30,222 posts)
39. His cognition was greatly impaired by that stroke.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:54 AM
Sunday

Not only that, he's an insult to the Senate with his hoodie and shorts.

TBF

(34,745 posts)
81. The stroke could be a factor, or he's trying to keep hold of his home district
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 01:59 PM
Sunday

We'll see what happens going forward - unfortunately we may have our new Joe Manchin.

Blue_Tires

(56,725 posts)
117. Nah, I think he's got some really shitty advisors
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 04:06 PM
Sunday

Telling him to take a huge step to the right if he wants to keep his seat....

Either that or Melon Husk has bought him off 👎

Takket

(22,659 posts)
40. i hope the USA is successful, not individual politicians
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:54 AM
Sunday

and i would love it if drumpf makes the USA successful. I also hope to win the lottery and wake up looking like a Greek God, but those two things are only slightly more likely than likely than drumpf making the USA successful.

no_hypocrisy

(49,193 posts)
41. OK, Big John, you can sit down and chill.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:54 AM
Sunday

The rest of us will be busy.

republianmushroom

(18,179 posts)
42. DINO ?
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:55 AM
Sunday

Fiendish Thingy

(18,801 posts)
43. I hope Shapiro primaries him in 2028. Nt
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:59 AM
Sunday

Polybius

(18,354 posts)
48. I think he has bigger plans in 2028
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 12:13 PM
Sunday

But that would work too, I really like Shapiro.

Fiendish Thingy

(18,801 posts)
61. Shapiro is young, and has a long career in public service ahead of him.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 12:42 PM
Sunday

Regardless of their deep bench of qualified candidates, unless there is a significant shift in the party’s internal workings, I don’t think the Dems will nominate anyone other than a straight white male Christian in 2028.

Polybius

(18,354 posts)
73. Perhaps a VP then
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 01:23 PM
Sunday

Gavin/Shapiro works for me.

Fiendish Thingy

(18,801 posts)
101. I'd rather see him replace Fetterman, and run for president later
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 03:00 PM
Sunday

He’s young, and would definitely beat Fetterman in a primary.

brush

(58,018 posts)
44. Go ahead and switch parties already. So sick of this Dino.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 12:02 PM
Sunday

He wants trump to be successful in deporting thousands, cutting SS and Medicare/Medicaid, jailing the J6 Committee members, What?

We've seen this movie already with Manchin and Sinema.

asm128

(238 posts)
77. He should resign
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 01:49 PM
Sunday

So Shapiro can appoint someone who is actually a Democrat.

I'm sick that I donated and voted for this guy.

kelly1mm

(5,413 posts)
94. If Senator Fetterman resigns, Governor Shapiro will appoint a temporary replacement but it pretty much a toss up
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 02:44 PM
Sunday

if we keep that seat in the Special Election.

Borogove

(46 posts)
45. My wife and I contributed a lot of money to his senate campaign. Needless to say, we are very disappointed.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 12:03 PM
Sunday

I had a feeling that he might be another one of those obnoxiously authentic, look-at-me clowns. Sadly, it appears that my suspicions were correct.

Crunchy Frog

(27,117 posts)
46. I'm sorry I got taken in by him.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 12:09 PM
Sunday

I didn't donate (didn't have the money) but I wanted to, and was definitely rooting for him. I need to stop being such a sucker.

delisen

(6,575 posts)
47. I think Fetterman is panicking,
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 12:12 PM
Sunday

He is trying to hold it together. Hope he makes it.

Kid Berwyn

(18,339 posts)
50. That's not what any Repug said about President Biden.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 12:16 PM
Sunday

They worked round the clock to oppose his every good work.

underpants

(187,333 posts)
55. Or Obama. Rush openly said he was rooting against his country.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 12:23 PM
Sunday

edhopper

(35,041 posts)
51. Is he happy with the bipartisan bill Trump
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 12:16 PM
Sunday

successfully killed. What success does he hope for Trump?

dalton99a

(84,881 posts)
53. Retribution against all opponents, tax cuts for billionaires, dismantling the government, ...
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 12:20 PM
Sunday

Last edited Sun Dec 22, 2024, 01:01 PM - Edit history (1)

Solly Mack

(93,207 posts)
52. Simple slogans for simple minds.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 12:19 PM
Sunday

strongermessage

(299 posts)
54. Maybe trump will successfully deport Fetterman's wife back to Brazil.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 12:21 PM
Sunday

My wife and I contributed to his campaigns and actually met him on a few occasions when we lived in PA. In hindsight, I wish I had supported Malcolm Kenyatta or Conor Lamb.

ananda

(30,931 posts)
56. Yes, but how is he going to vote?
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 12:24 PM
Sunday

I mean, WTF!

regnaD kciN

(26,642 posts)
71. I fear this means...
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 01:16 PM
Sunday

…he’ll be voting to confirm Hegseth, Patel, Gabbard, RFK the Lesser, etc.

ananda

(30,931 posts)
85. Yes, this is sad beyond belief.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 02:14 PM
Sunday

I had so much hope in him when he was first elected.

What a shame.

LoisB

(9,020 posts)
57. I am all for my country. Too bad the President-elect is not.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 12:25 PM
Sunday

helpisontheway

(5,277 posts)
58. I'm not surprised. Democrats in PA were flipping out talking about how awesome he was..almost
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 12:25 PM
Sunday

like Democrats in NY did for that crooked mayor..🤮 I’m pro democrat all the way but I’m sick of voting for democrats in name only.

karynnj

(60,012 posts)
59. I get the inclination to accept an election and to hope for a successful country
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 12:32 PM
Sunday

I imagine that Trump's win in PA and Senator Casey's loss may have seemed like a wakeup call for him. Could it be he sees his constituents wanting him to give Trump a chance. I'llI hope what Fetterman MEANT was that he hoped the US would be successful during the Trump presidency. Even Mitch McConnell suggested that Republican Senate institutionalist might temper some of the Trump goals.

Fetterman could have hoped that Trump would fail to get the vast majority of his extreme agenda through the Congress. This failure would be good for the country because the huge tax cuts, cuts to programs, tariffs, attacks on long term allies, and support for authoritarian governments are bad for the United States.

I imagine his hope is to position himself as someone they can negotiate with, not someone who will knee jerk accept positions he always disagreed with.

Fetterman was a hero here because of not being a regular politician, like Conor Lamb. He was called a populist, which he is. That does not make him a liberal, a Democratic socialist. He is absolutely not like Bernie Sanders, whose votes or positions have never surprised me. Vermont's local cable station has tapes of him speaking in the 1980s as mayor of Burlington. His basic values and goals never changed. Are there people from PA who have followed Fetterman who can say the same of him? Did he change from 2022 or did we at DU see what we wanted to see?

Drum

(9,891 posts)
60. New Guy Says We Oughtta...
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 12:40 PM
Sunday

Oopsie Daisy

(4,555 posts)
62. TYS!
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 12:44 PM
Sunday

Silent Type

(7,324 posts)
63. I don't want trump to fail either, but I'm expecting immense failure.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 12:47 PM
Sunday

Think. Again.

(19,040 posts)
86. Knowing what trump would consider success, yes, I do want him to fail.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 02:15 PM
Sunday

Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Ping Tung

(1,423 posts)
66. From his lips to Trump's ass.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 12:59 PM
Sunday

Vinca

(51,233 posts)
67. WTF? If Trump is "successful" it means we commoners are severely screwed.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 01:00 PM
Sunday

I've had it with Fetterman. Send him his official MAGA knee pads and find someone to primary him.

alarimer

(16,644 posts)
68. Oh, shut up, Fetterman.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 01:03 PM
Sunday

We do NOT want Trump to succeed because that would suck for everyone. Except maybe for sucking suckups like you Why don't you just turn GOP already, you traitor?

Mz Pip

(27,935 posts)
70. What does success look like?
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 01:04 PM
Sunday

If tariffs causing inflation, and the deportation of millions of people is what success looks like, I’m for failure.

Bluethroughu

(5,988 posts)
72. Definition of success is critical to which course I prefer.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 01:19 PM
Sunday

If he went all out and did the opposite of everything he planned, he'd have a great historic last term, or he can continue to be the puppet of the ultra wealthy that hate him the most, but love he is the face of their plan.

He's to stupid to understand the difference.

Baitball Blogger

(48,422 posts)
74. Let's see how Fetterman feels when Trump's ignorance, stupidity and avarice drags us into
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 01:46 PM
Sunday

a war, or the euphemistic equivalent.

Escape

(72 posts)
76. ROOTING for TRUMP..
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 01:48 PM
Sunday

Is rooting AGAINST America.

And Rooting for Trump is rooting against honesty, decency, fairness, truth, compassion and common sense.

Keep talking Mr Fetterman. We can see you.

yourout

(8,132 posts)
78. I don't need to root against them because I know it's coming.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 01:50 PM
Sunday

For basically my whole lifetime Republicans have crashed the economy every time they're in office.

Democrats clean up the mess and get things straightened out and then Republicans come in and within 3 years run us into a ditch again.

live love laugh

(14,549 posts)
79. Infiltrators and posers are why Democrats aren't more successful.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 01:53 PM
Sunday

You never hear that Democrats do this crap to Republicans.

bucolic_frolic

(47,572 posts)
80. I think the Senator has been infected with Pennsylvania coal, oil and gas interests
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 01:55 PM
Sunday

slightlv

(4,439 posts)
83. Fascism is not a word regular people use?
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 02:07 PM
Sunday

I suggest he's been sitting in high places for a while, then. What a disappointment he is. He could be a real leader in bringing democracy to the forefront. Instead he's doing exactly what Timothy Snyder said NOT to do... giving in at the start. I had more respect for the man. One thing that never surprises me is the cowardice in the face of bullies.

Bettie

(17,389 posts)
84. Well, looks like trump
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 02:09 PM
Sunday

has another certain vote in the senate.

Think. Again.

(19,040 posts)
87. I guess fetterman is tired of having his wife and kids around?
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 02:17 PM
Sunday

Bread and Circuses

(235 posts)
88. I've made comments about a hoodie wearing Senator....
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 02:19 PM
Sunday

And I don’t want to be reprimanded.

I’ve suspected that he likes the attention and his constituents, who are Felon-voters. Rather than explain to them how dangerous those ideas and actions are for the democracy, he parrots some verbiage.
Indeed, he displays the same half-baked ideas of that crowd in some ways. Which is odd.
Reminds me of a certain VT Senator who grandstands.

Both the VT and hoodie Senators seem to speak on behalf of progressive policies and then manage to flip the table over.

I’d watch the guy very closely.

I am a supporter of Democrats, President Biden and our constitution.

buzzycrumbhunger

(910 posts)
91. He's surely been a huge disappointment...
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 02:22 PM
Sunday

WTF happened to him?!

DontBelieveEastisEas

(1,203 posts)
92. He makes the mistake of conflating rooting for prosperity and health vs Trump's policies. nt
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 02:33 PM
Sunday

themaguffin

(4,232 posts)
99. F him. For the country to succeed (or not fail), trump MUST fail at his agenda.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 02:55 PM
Sunday

Meowmee

(6,110 posts)
100. Regular people?
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 02:59 PM
Sunday

Wth… awful. Courageous people do call out fascism and authoritarians.

J_William_Ryan

(2,262 posts)
102. It's perfectly appropriate to hope
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 03:08 PM
Sunday

Trump fails in his pursuit of reckless governance and irresponsible public policy – such as mass deportations, ending birthright citizenship, repealing the ACA, and corporate deregulation.

To note but a few.

Turbineguy

(38,501 posts)
103. That depends on what you call "success"
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 03:14 PM
Sunday

C_U_L8R

(45,764 posts)
104. When have Republicans helped the country?
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 03:15 PM
Sunday

I can’t think of a single time. Mostly they just fuck things up, as they prove over and over again. And we’re supposed to give the idiots a chance? Give me a break.

Cha

(305,853 posts)
124. Wow.. it's like he doesn't know the History.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 06:45 PM
Sunday

rainy

(6,233 posts)
105. This is probably over the top but could Musk
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 03:20 PM
Sunday

be bribing congress persons like Fetterman into going against the Democrats?

Blue_Tires

(56,725 posts)
116. Possibly...
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 04:01 PM
Sunday

Just like how the GOP paid for that woman in the North Carolina State Legislature and the mayor of Houston (?) to switch parties...

Blue_Tires

(56,725 posts)
106. Not touching this one...
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 03:22 PM
Sunday

Last time I spoke out about Fetterman, all my posts got reported and removed by the mods...

So anything he says or does is 100% fine with me 🤐

GentryDixon

(3,024 posts)
107. I wish he would shut his mouth.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 03:24 PM
Sunday

GoreWon2000

(1,080 posts)
118. In what altwernate universe is Fetterman lving in?
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 04:07 PM
Sunday

tRump is America's Hitler with the same Nazi platform that he and his anti-democracy sexist, racist magas will start imposing on our country on 1/20/25.

DonCoquixote

(13,728 posts)
120. with all due respect F** *you
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 04:48 PM
Sunday

Last edited Sun Dec 22, 2024, 07:34 PM - Edit history (1)

That as the line the gop used on us back when we could have ripped Bush and Cheney a new one. The GOP deifntion of success..no social security, war with Iran, is worse than many failures...Fetterman, F*** U

blueseas

(11,611 posts)
121. He has a short memory
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 05:14 PM
Sunday

Was he not around in 2016 and does he not hear prez Musk speak earlier?

Henry203

(178 posts)
122. The minute I saw the hoodie
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 05:42 PM
Sunday

and shorts I knew he was a phony.

BluenFLA

(166 posts)
123. What a disappointment he turned out to be
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 05:51 PM
Sunday

Note to Fetterman: See how Sinema lost her supporters, you have four years to think about this.

BlueKota

(3,727 posts)
126. Wow he's become an ass
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 06:50 PM
Sunday

Blue Owl

(54,915 posts)
127. I thought Fetterman was a better man
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 06:51 PM
Sunday

Wifes husband

(94 posts)
128. Dud
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 07:09 PM
Sunday

Other than him being a Democrat, not impressed. Big mouth slob

W_HAMILTON

(8,569 posts)
130. How often has Fetterman been on the Sunday talk shows?
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 08:25 PM
Sunday

Why does it seem like these shows only cozy up to Democrats once said Democrat shows s/he is willing to go after fellow Democrats as much (if not more) than Republicans?

Cha

(305,853 posts)
132. Because that's what they DO. What they are.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 08:37 PM
Sunday

Not anyone's imagination.. the US Corp does NOT care about Democracy for the American People Or Fucking Reality.

Only Manipulating what they want for Ratings and Tax cuts. Well they got it Again... They should have been careful what they wish for. IMFO

Cha

(305,853 posts)
131. Sigh... "Successful" at What Big guy? His Project 2025.. Cutting
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 08:26 PM
Sunday

Social Security for us Americans? Cancelling Health Care for Americans.. Letting Russia take Over Ukraine? Do you care about them? I know Putin, Mump, & Vance do NOT!

Dem4life1970

(541 posts)
133. Fetterman's advice is very normal. HOWEVER, these are *not normal* times....
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 09:14 PM
Sunday

There is nothing normal about a POTUS ordering an attack on the US Capitol

There is nothing normal about a POTUS participating in a fake elector scheme

There is nothing normal about a POTUS potentially selling (or giving away) TOP SECRETS to America's adversaries

There is nothing normal about a POTUS lining his and his family's pockets while in office, compromising himself and national security, instead of putting his assets in a blind trust (as every President since Nixon has done).

There is nothing normal about a POTUS calling his political opponents "The Enemy Within" and the First Amendment "The enemy of the people."

There is nothing normal about a POTUS putting criminal incompetents in charge of Government Departments

There is nothing normal about a POTUS saying that immigrants are "poisoning the blood of our country"

I would call Fetterman Neville Chamberlain, but even Neville Chamberlain had the decency to dress appropriately.

Here's a picture of Neville Chamberlain "chilling out":

question everything

(49,079 posts)
134. I have always admired Fetterman and he knows his constituents better
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 09:27 PM
Sunday

Interesting, though: almost all the posts here would be hidden. I suppose this is what legal eagles would describe as “nullifying the jury.”

(Not me. In the almost 21 years that I have been here I rarely alerted and rarely voted to hide. I consider this a discussion board).


Sky Jewels

(8,827 posts)
135. FUCK Fetterman.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 10:03 PM
Sunday

I never, ever trusted that asswipe.

With "allies" like him, who needs enemies?

roamer65

(37,230 posts)
136. Nice try, John.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 10:06 PM
Sunday

I have been slashing spending since the election and I fully intend to have the job completed by Jan 20th.

The goal in my mind is another Great Recession.

F U John.

ecstatic

(34,514 posts)
137. I'm watching Ayman and even Joe Walsh went off on fetterman
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:12 PM
Sunday

He said it's obvious that fetterman doesn't view trump as a threat to democracy.

ZonkerHarris

(25,421 posts)
138. Meet the new Manchin/Sinema. There must always be one turncoat to undermine Democrats efforts.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:18 PM
Sunday
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