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38. Ego-driven greed. Believe he wants to eventually rule the planet.

Sat Dec 21, 2024, 09:13 AM

Dec 21

Was depressed by a telephone conversation with one of my longest friends, yesterday. She and her husband are wealthy and voted for TSF in 2016 and 2020, but went for Harris this year. I was so pleased.

Now, however, she and her husband are all-in for Musk and the "advice" he's giving to this admin. She believes Musk is a certifiable genius. My counterpoints were ignored. She and her husband are educated, intelligent -- yet blind, imo. The only rationale I can figure is that they believe their family's wealth will grow if Musk is influencing policy. And maybe she's right.

Sad to sell the nation out for your personal gain.

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Everyone has an Achilles heel. What is Musk's? [View all] Irish_Dem Dec 21 OP

Greed kills its host. NameAlreadyTaken Dec 21 #1

Musk is addicted to drugs, money, and power. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #2

I think his biggest addiction is himself. dchill Dec 21 #29

Yes this is his obvious narcissistic personality disorder. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #33

Overreach might be his downfall. yardwork Dec 21 #78

Yes good point. His grandiose ambition exceeds his talents and abilities. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #81

There used to be a group of docs who analyzed the deaths of historical figures. yardwork Dec 21 #87

(lack of) self-awareness C_U_L8R Dec 21 #3

Yes he also appears to be mentally ill. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #5

musk is ketamine. rampartd Dec 21 #19

Yes, Trump's crime syndicate is full of drug addicts/substance abusers. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #21

i didn't even think of the "date rape" stuff rampartd Dec 21 #23

Yes I noticed all the date rape drugs right away on the WH drug list. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #30

Trump knows drug addicts are easy to control jmowreader Dec 21 #146

Guess Trump is going to need a huge White House drug list again. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #147

And yet they claim to protect the country from drugs coming in over the border wnylib Dec 21 #64

Every accusation is a confession. yardwork Dec 21 #89

The psychology of that is interesting. wnylib Dec 21 #97

Similar mentality goes into their homophobia and why at this point we kinda assume the loudest ones AZJonnie Dec 21 #110

I think that is especially evident in JD Vance's wnylib Dec 21 #114

I'm not sure what's up with Vance but he's definitely miserable. yardwork Dec 21 #119

He probably can't stop comparing himself spapeggy Dec 21 #122

I didn't know that Vance was raised Catholic. wnylib Dec 21 #125

Could be. I'm glad that your friend Joe found happiness and his authentic self. yardwork Dec 21 #126

Yes, I was happy for Joe when I ran into him. wnylib Dec 21 #128

I have read he's on the spectrum, so to speak. Texin Dec 21 #63

no doubt rampartd Dec 21 #68

I agree, rampartd, that we are all "on the spectrum" somewhere. Bumbles Dec 21 #70

A touch of the 'tism, yes. Also paranoid, drug addict, narcissistic sociopath. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #74

Not good qualities for a President to have. COL Mustard Dec 21 #73

Yes, they are bad and dangerous leaders. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #141

The truth. 2naSalit Dec 21 #4

Yes Musk is out of touch with reality. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #6

His trans daughter seems to strike a nerve. Vinca Dec 21 #7

Good point. His hatred of her is pathological. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #9

Musk ha 12 children (so far). I don't think one trans child is going to drive him crazy. Martin68 Dec 21 #50

Drugs GusBob Dec 21 #8

Dupes OK. Means more people think Musk being a drug addict is his major weakness. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #10

Ok how bout this one? GusBob Dec 21 #11

Very interesting. All the women he has hurt may start blabbing. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #12

What's that saying about a woman scorned? GusBob Dec 21 #13

Good point. He may push them too far. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #15

But how can that weakness be used to bring him down? wnylib Dec 21 #67

First you do the psych profile. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #75

I don't know enough about Musk to identify his weaknesses. wnylib Dec 21 #93

People on this thread are identifying his weaknesses. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #100

The recent refusal of House Republicans to give in to the wnylib Dec 21 #107

Good point. Musk is running into some political brick walls. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #116

Either there is a power vacuum that Musk is trying to push himself into wnylib Dec 21 #120

Both. Power brokers pushing Musk into a power vacuum. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #121

Here's what can bring him down: Eyeball_Kid Dec 21 #113

Those things could take him down, but wnylib Dec 21 #115

I agree, his ego is tied into everything you list. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #142

Mars is just a grift. harumph Dec 21 #149

Maybe his need to control combined with his insecurity about his parenting Mike 03 Dec 21 #14

Yes. Musk's mental illness is on display with his parenting issues. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #17

What you describe is a younger version of Mr. Trump. wnylib Dec 21 #71

His stock superpatriotman Dec 21 #16

Yes, Musk's enormous ego is tied to his net worth. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #18

yep dtTwitch Dec 21 #22

How do we take down his stock? Irish_Dem Dec 21 #24

Collectively crash the stock market, a la 2007 to 2009. Celerity Dec 21 #40

He has a lot more than TSLA. Lucky Luciano Dec 21 #46

Most of Musk's wealth comes from government contracts. yardwork Dec 21 #94

Bingo! jmbar2 Dec 21 #103

His ignorance of American history is a big flaw. That should should be exploited. Walleye Dec 21 #20

Yes good point. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #25

Many Americans claiming to be patriots do not understand the basic principles of our philosophy Walleye Dec 21 #27

Or they don't care. Or they no longer want a democracy. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #34

I keep thinking of the schemes of Pinky and the Brain Walleye Dec 21 #37

If this was a movie it would be fascinating. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #47

THIS is what we're up against. yardwork Dec 21 #95

...and more than a few of them are in Congress. dchill Dec 21 #35

we dont talk enough about hard drugs in high places. mopinko Dec 21 #26

I think many of the narcissistic world leaders think they have just the right drugs to make them superior to everyone Walleye Dec 21 #28

true. mopinko Dec 21 #31

Which explains their hatred for straight arrow, Boy Scout, Joe Biden Walleye Dec 21 #32

Very good point mopinko. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #42

When was that recent hearing where the Republicans turned up drunk? yardwork Dec 21 #96

Gaetz, Boebert, MTG? Irish_Dem Dec 21 #98

Found it. It was last May. They were drinking in the hearing room itself. yardwork Dec 21 #99

Thanks. What happens when regular people show to work drunk and are disruptive? Irish_Dem Dec 21 #102

Well, I would be fired. yardwork Dec 21 #117

Hitler was as high as kite through WWII. Ocelot II Dec 21 #51

yup. mopinko Dec 21 #53

Yes in Hitler's speeches he sounds psychotic and/or drugged to the hilt. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #77

Blitzed Pachamama Dec 21 #84

Being stupid enough to make common cause with trump. Paladin Dec 21 #36

Billionaires think their vast wealth protects them from everything. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #44

It's starting to look like Trump might be the one who needs protection from the muskrat. wnylib Dec 21 #80

Ego-driven greed. Believe he wants to eventually rule the planet. allegorical oracle Dec 21 #38

Yes Musk is now talking about buying the UK elections too. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #52

Taking on too many things at the same time. The Madcap Dec 21 #39

I believe he is bipolar with manic episodes. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #76

I could never The Madcap Dec 21 #86

He likes to fly everywhere. 58Sunliner Dec 21 #41

Believing he can trust Trump? boonecreek Dec 21 #43

This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Dec 21 #45

Sewth Efrica DFW Dec 21 #48

Musk's (non)relationship with his trans daughter seems to be a sore point for him. sop Dec 21 #49

Yes, Musk's view of his child is pathological, quite crazy and paranoid. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #55

Putin would Traildogbob Dec 21 #54

The Icarus Factor no_hypocrisy Dec 21 #56

Narcissism Wicked Blue Dec 21 #57

Something we don't know about but Putin might nuxvomica Dec 21 #58

Zero Imagination Kid Berwyn Dec 21 #59

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 21 #60

he has an inflated view of himself azureblue Dec 21 #61

It is his vanity nowforever Dec 21 #62

His biggest Achilles heel will ultimately stealing the anointed one's sunshine Norbert Dec 21 #65

All the detritus he's discarded on his way to the top bucolic_frolic Dec 21 #66

As you said Irish Dem, Musk's enormous ego is tied to his net worth. Bumbles Dec 21 #69

His praetorian guard DBoon Dec 21 #72

Hubris endless summer Dec 21 #79

The same ones as Trump's. They are very much alike Ocelot II Dec 21 #82

Yes they have the same psychopathology. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #140

Musk is not as smart as people, including himself, think. MineralMan Dec 21 #83

This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Dec 21 #92

Mainly that he is a really unlikable prick. Happy Hoosier Dec 21 #85

Good point. He is an obnoxious SOB. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #105

Achilles Heel: His government contracts predicated on his lie on his citizenship application. ancianita Dec 21 #88

Yes on all your points. But rich, powerful white males are exempt from US laws, rules and customs. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #111

Okay, then. If what you say is true, then there's no reason to even ask whether he has an "Achilles heel," is there. ancianita Dec 21 #123

You are right and wrong about my thought process. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #135

Fine. Then both things can be true. ancianita Dec 21 #148

Looks like the U.S. Military agrees with me about his being a national security threat. ancianita Dec 21 #130

Just CYA, they still give Musk military contacts. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #133

Nah. They bother with this because they have evidentiary cause for prosecuting and taking over his contracts ancianita Dec 21 #134

ha ha Irish_Dem Dec 21 #136

Everything ancianita Dec 21 #150

Musk will eventually self-destruct Pachamama Dec 21 #90

Definately his ego - very thin skin on that one alittlelark Dec 21 #104

Good analysis. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #109

his ego RainCaster Dec 21 #91

Yes this makes him quite vulnerable. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #108

He's a quick study but doesn't have time to know important details flamingdem Dec 21 #101

He is also so grandiose he doesn't think he needs the details. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #106

He's a pedo Arthur_Frain Dec 21 #112

Musk got the anti-porn prohibition killed in the new bill. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #118

His fragile ego. He cannot handle anyone being less than obeisance. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Dec 21 #124

Yes, like Trump. Classic narcissistic personality disorder. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #132

How was Musk's parents view of him and his view of his parents. How was he raised? debm55 Dec 21 #144

We know his mother seems to be narcissistic as well. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #145

Possibly the Orange Anuses malignant narcissism? CentralMass Dec 21 #127

Yes Musk is too stupid to realize that Trump poses a threat to him. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #137

Dependence on Chinese suppliers? n/t AntiFascist Dec 21 #129

Yes Musk does not realize that China, Russia, and Trump could turn on him at any moment. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #138

He drew to an inside straight and got it, now he thinks he's a genius localroger Dec 21 #131

Good assessment. Musk knows the price of everything, but the value of nothing. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #139

Drugs Emrys Dec 21 #143

If he keeps screwing up, he may make some powerful enemies. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #152

His ego is not his amigo. Bluethroughu Dec 21 #151

Yes hubris may be his downfall. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #153

Definately hope so. Bluethroughu Dec 21 #155

Ketamine to get over that his Mommy didn't love him enough! kimbutgar Dec 21 #154

He is used to his staff, politicians, and the rich fawning over him. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #157

Dunning Kruger Effect, he know doubt thinks he knows best based off a little bit of information. Took out LIDAR from ... uponit7771 Dec 21 #156

He is impaired because of his narcissistic personalty disorder. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #159

Jumping up with his arms in the air when his shirt is too short? dgauss Dec 21 #158