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Kaleva

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63. It can be an arduous journey

Thu Dec 19, 2024, 04:30 PM

Dec 19

And it could still fail. There's no guarantee.

Some people have lost their lives fighting for civil rights, the right to unionize, gay rights , protesting the Vietnam War and so on. Other examples are people like Nelson Mandela who spent years in prison

The point I'm trying to make is that history shows that often it takes a great deal of effort and sacrifice in order to overcome obstacles. I'm not seeing that with the gun issue. There are a few that are really trying but they are just a few.

Kudos to you for your efforts. If you are still trying, I do wish you the best and hope you succeed.

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BS BS BS "unexpected and unacceptable" school shooting, says Dane [View all] niyad Dec 16 OP

Killing school children is perfectly acceptable in the USA. Irish_Dem Dec 16 #1

I think many of us, a majority even, do care biophile Dec 16 #3

If people REALLY cared they would look into why guns are continue to be a scourge. kerry-is-my-prez Dec 16 #5

For those of us who do care, we could be louder and united wnylib Dec 16 #6

No. We do not care enough to do anything about the problem. Irish_Dem Dec 16 #7

its a clear majority that do not care Cosmocat Dec 18 #30

Machine guns banned in the 30s Golm1kate Dec 16 #11

Welcome to our DU family. niyad Dec 16 #16

Assault weapons have been banned before - TBF Dec 16 #19

And back then President Clinton had the support of all the living former presidents to get AWB passed Rhiannon12866 Dec 18 #22

True, but legalizing 'bump stocks' have essentially brought machine guns back Blappy Dec 17 #21

Well, they think we need guns to fight a tyrannical government. Omnipresent Dec 18 #26

The idiots just voted in their tyrannical government without TBF Dec 18 #34

I really don't think he wants to strengthen the second amendment... Omnipresent Dec 18 #35

Society cares more about shooting CEO's instead of shooting kids. ... aggiesal Dec 16 #15

Not all of us think that gun rights PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 17 #20

The only thing needed to get real mercuryblues Dec 16 #2

Best response winner! Clouds Passing Dec 18 #33

This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Dec 18 #36

Completely expected and totally acceptable in order to save the precious. Iggo Dec 16 #4

They are too busy solving the non-existent Hassler Dec 16 #8

Do something? AverageOldGuy Dec 16 #9

We are the only country in the world with this problem... Bluethroughu Dec 16 #10

And incoming president Fuckface isn't going to do jack shit about it. Initech Dec 16 #12

They are not there to hurt him, he said before he incited an insurrection. Bluethroughu Dec 16 #13

And we have folks here who cheered that murder Kaleva Dec 18 #24

I don't know anything I read, had people cheering on gun murder. Bluethroughu Dec 18 #25

Well of course it was "unexpected." After all, dobleremolque Dec 16 #14

Yeah real protection and good educatioanal bs Figarosmom Dec 16 #18

I agree Figarosmom Dec 16 #17

My guess is that few here are trying to do something about it Kaleva Dec 18 #23

I find it offensive that you seem to be trying to blame DUers for the lack of Congressional action. Think. Again. Dec 18 #27

Where would civil rights be if MLK waited for elected officials to act? Kaleva Dec 18 #39

I do, I know personally that many DUers are very active in all sorts of activism and support on all sorts of issues... Think. Again. Dec 18 #40

What are they doing? Regarding gun control? Kaleva Dec 18 #41

Perhaps your disappointment in DUers would be better placed in the GUN CONTROL FORUM. Think. Again. Dec 18 #44

I'm not disappointed. Just stating an observation Kaleva Dec 18 #45

I'm sorry you feel that only the actions you are aware of matter. Think. Again. Dec 18 #46

I prefer to live in a fact based world supported by evidence Kaleva Dec 19 #52

That's nice. But as I mentioned... Think. Again. Dec 19 #53

Provide links to the ones you are aware of Kaleva Dec 19 #54

Thank you for your input. Think. Again. Dec 19 #55

Anytime! I've been here for 16 years now. Kaleva Dec 19 #57

I am curious about what your own answer to those quesions would be. niyad Dec 18 #28

Other then occasionally donating to Moms Demand Action, nothing Kaleva Dec 18 #42

So, are you basing your comments on your own actions, or admitted lack thereof? niyad Dec 18 #47

Look at what DUers do during elections Kaleva Dec 18 #48

That is merely a very judgmental assumption and assertion on your part. niyad Dec 18 #49

If you have evidence that DUers are working hard on the gun control issue.. Kaleva Dec 19 #50

"Absence of evidence is not proof of evidence of absence." Unlike niyad Dec 19 #58

But you know what you've been doing Kaleva Dec 19 #59

Don't you DARE try switching this to me. YOU are the one who claimed to be niyad Dec 19 #62

I'm not all seeing so just tell me what you've done. Kaleva Dec 19 #64

Read your posts again, and 58 and 62. niyad Dec 19 #65

If you've done nothing, that's fine. Just say so and we'll be on our way. Kaleva Dec 20 #66

Few anywhere are trying to do something about it sarisataka Dec 18 #37

I see talk but very little action. Kaleva Dec 18 #43

I think the problem is that the average DU'er is not in the position to be able to do something. haele Dec 19 #61

It can be an arduous journey Kaleva Dec 19 #63

School children get thoughts and prayers. Guns get protective legislation. keithbvadu2 Dec 18 #29

Horrifically true. niyad Dec 18 #31

Joe The Plumber: 'Your Dead Kids Don't Trump My Constitutional Rights' To Have Guns keithbvadu2 Dec 18 #32

DO SOMETHING to stop this horror!!! republianmushroom Dec 18 #38

"Few anywhere are trying to do something about it including the so-called gun safety organizations." J_William_Ryan Dec 19 #51

K&R SheltieLover Dec 19 #56

America doesn't care enough about their own white children ThePartyThatListens Dec 19 #60