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Smart Elections Report on Drop-Off Ballots Just Released! [View all] NJCher Dec 17 OP

Bring the smelling salts! I feel faint! dchill Dec 17 #1

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The Electoral College finished the count yesterday Polybius Dec 18 #7

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I did see number 3 Polybius Dec 18 #39

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I'm sorry Polybius Dec 18 #44

How would immunity give him the power to force recounts? FBaggins Dec 18 #25

Which laws would you like Joe to violate? tritsofme Dec 18 #110

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You said you want Joe to "use" his immunity. The only way to do that is to violate federal laws tritsofme Dec 18 #118

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Let the Putin/Musk et al investigations begin NJCher Dec 17 #3

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But what about hard evidence? Polybius Dec 18 #38

Begin BoRaGard Dec 19 #140

From article: dchill Dec 17 #4

K&r questionseverything Dec 18 #5

All of what you posted required physical access to the server Abnredleg Dec 18 #47

You need to show how it COULDN'T have happened. dchill Dec 18 #62

No - I don't have the burden of proof Abnredleg Dec 18 #66

Neither do I. dchill Dec 18 #67

On the Internet that is true Abnredleg Dec 18 #70

DU is not a fucking court of law. dchill Dec 18 #72

I didn't say it was Abnredleg Dec 18 #73

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Actually it's only the reporting page a " hacker" would have to breach questionseverything Dec 18 #84

No Abnredleg Dec 18 #86

You are 2 funny, like you personally oversee every reporting page in the nation questionseverything Dec 18 #89

Vote counting is done with bipartisan observers Abnredleg Dec 18 #90

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Kick. Rec. Bookmark. Hekate Dec 18 #6

Everyone who is still suffering from total disbelief that this could have possibly happened for real BComplex Dec 18 #8

Then why didn't the Democratic Party counter this? Where arthritisR_US Dec 18 #14

Marc Elias KNOWS how it was stolen, but his law firm is putting out a million fires. It's up to the Democratic party BComplex Dec 18 #30

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I'm not sure I understand the point of spreading misinformation about Marc. He's never embraced these denialist tritsofme Dec 18 #109

He most certainly has discussed the many ways in which the republicans stole the election. BComplex Dec 18 #121

Feel free to post a link. He's certainly never endorsed the sort of conspiracy theories in the OP. tritsofme Dec 18 #126

So your theory is the guy famous for fighting for voter rights EdmondDantes_ Dec 18 #125

Are you all ok with this and going to let it stand? arthritisR_US Dec 18 #15

I have written to all the top democrats and insisted that a formal and forensic audit should be done BComplex Dec 18 #31

Very true, but it's frustrating beyond the pale what he's got arthritisR_US Dec 18 #46

Audits are done as part of certification Abnredleg Dec 18 #48

Ok, I am seriously disturbed by this. REALLY fucking disturbed. I trust every poster in this thread (here is a current Celerity Dec 18 #9

Looks like evidence of votes not being counted and called questionseverything Dec 18 #17

Bullet ballot voting was within historical norms Abnredleg Dec 18 #49

These rates in the OP for Trump dropoff are vastly higher than what your link shows. Celerity Dec 18 #54

The OP is breaking votes out by party Abnredleg Dec 18 #59

I am not satisfied it is simply due to party break-out. Those Trump drop off rates are crazy high, certainly not within Celerity Dec 18 #124

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so is the takeaway that votes were taken from Harris somehow in these states? (nt) cadoman Dec 18 #10

The numbers do not rule that out. dchill Dec 18 #13

is a statistical abnormality evidence of fraud? tfg claimed the same cadoman Dec 18 #29

If that argument is logical to you NJCher Dec 18 #33

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The difference is Georgia was hand counted so we had some physical proof tfg lost questionseverything Dec 18 #107

The voting machines were secure when that guy was in charge of the election in 2020. Trump fired him before BComplex Dec 18 #58

Wisconsin would need less than 9 votes per precinct to change result questionseverything Dec 18 #18

No Abnredleg Dec 18 #60

Thank you! Bookmarked to read tomorrow. Silver Gaia Dec 18 #11

Why wasn't this information out there the day after the election? arthritisR_US Dec 18 #12

The official numbers don't come out right away questionseverything Dec 18 #19

A timely manner? You have an autocratic coming into office arthritisR_US Dec 18 #20

I just mean they did a huge amount of work quickly questionseverything Dec 18 #24

It was Abnredleg Dec 18 #50

Aside keepthemhonestO Dec 18 #104

I don't see any sign anyone in the party is going to do anything Meowmee Dec 18 #16

"I don't need your votes. I have enough votes. You'll never have to vote again." Uh huh. Scrivener7 Dec 18 #26

And by accusing democrats of programming the voting machines to count extra votes for Biden, he has admitted BComplex Dec 18 #32

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This is the debunked bullet ballot argument Abnredleg Dec 18 #52

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"just" calling it NJCher Dec 18 #81

I show up with the same argument that Harris and the Democtratic Party makes Abnredleg Dec 18 #85

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Definition of a fair election NJCher Dec 18 #98

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Or this. Musk's 5yo tells us what his dad is doing Babajida Dec 19 #127

Leads me to wonder if there is a "Deeper State" outside the State bucolic_frolic Dec 18 #27

Would it be rude to say "Duh?" dchill Dec 18 #61

Yes but such an entity has never been specified bucolic_frolic Dec 18 #69

What happens if this is proved beyond all doubt... MiHale Dec 18 #28

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Why do you suppose all of those parties are silent and not championing these ridiculous conspiracy theories? tritsofme Dec 18 #113

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It's pretty simple. They are not gullible enough to fall for silly conspiracy theories. tritsofme Dec 19 #131

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You asked why actual credible parties are not seeking "injunctive relief" tritsofme Dec 19 #136

What is a "drop-off" vote, Pew Research says they're people who don't vote consistently in every election I'm thinking uponit7771 Dec 18 #34

It's the difference between votes for President and down ballot races Abnredleg Dec 18 #43

Ah, ... I heard they were called bullet ballots uponit7771 Dec 18 #55

They've repackaged the bullet ballot argument /NT Abnredleg Dec 18 #57

What they are saying is the senate race had many more votes than the presidential race questionseverything Dec 18 #83

They only came to that conclusion because they ignored the idea that split ticket voting occurs MichMan Dec 18 #102

Ok, this is a data point FHRRK Dec 18 #35

I don't understand this... LeftInTX Dec 18 #45

It's undervoting Abnredleg Dec 18 #53

Oh........ LeftInTX Dec 18 #56

You said, as you go down the list there are more undervotes questionseverything Dec 18 #87

Which 4 states are you referring to? MichMan Dec 18 #103

You need to read the material you are disputing questionseverything Dec 18 #106

Which is a completely disingenuous analysis that proves absolutely nothing MichMan Dec 18 #108

We are free to disagree questionseverything Dec 18 #112

All I want for Christmas is the DoJ to investigate this. redqueen Dec 18 #51

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"What part of the spectrum of Ds does that originate from?" Sympthsical Dec 18 #65

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If reality feels mean, I don't know what to tell you Sympthsical Dec 18 #78

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I think it would be nice if NJCher Dec 18 #82

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It's the chicken wire and charcoal fluid of statistics Sympthsical Dec 18 #117

Agreed DET Dec 18 #76

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I agree keepthemhonestO Dec 18 #105

Numbers they provide don't make any sense when compared with actual state results MichMan Dec 18 #64

They cherry-picked to maximize suspicion Sympthsical Dec 18 #68

Sorry, I don't admire anyone who manipulates and misrepresents data to fit their agenda and rile up gullible people MichMan Dec 18 #71

I meant I admire your attempt Sympthsical Dec 18 #74

Of course the election results were manipulated. SheltieLover Dec 18 #101

I won't say they were obviously manipulated but questionseverything Dec 18 #111

I'm definitely convinced SheltieLover Dec 19 #133

I agree it certainly looks like it was stolen and I agree it's past time for hand counts questionseverything Dec 19 #137

That was the exact argument Trumpers made four years ago. It's not any stronger today. tritsofme Dec 19 #132

Don't underestimate the number of gullible people out there MichMan Dec 18 #114

Duck Typing Metaphorical Dec 18 #122

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Shitler kept insisting that the election was stolen from him. love_katz Dec 19 #128

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What is disheartening Babajida Dec 19 #129

What would you like Democrats to fight against? Reality? tritsofme Dec 19 #134

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