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Emrys

(8,053 posts)
5. At least since the 1980s, to my recollection
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 09:30 PM
Dec 13

It's a brave or stupid soul who tries to inject etymology into this sort of debate, but ...

The word woman is derived from the Old English word wīfmann ('woman-person'), which is formed from wīf (the source of wife), then meaning 'woman', and mann (the source of man), then meaning 'person, human', originally without connotations of gender. Man took on its additional masculine meaning in the Late Middle English period, replacing the now-obsolete word wer. This has created the present situation with man bearing a dual meaning—either masculine or nonspecific.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_spellings_of_woman


As a hangover from this, I've worked on books where the author and/or publisher wanted us to avoid using "man" in the sense of "mankind". "Humanity" might have been an alternative, but would have fallen foul of the same sensitivities.

It reminds me of a good-natured dispute I had with a young feminist in the 1980s, when she insisted the word "boisterous" was sexist because it was derived from the word "boy" and implied that females couldn't be rowdy and spirited and rough. Etymology didn't help me in that one either.

The same Wikipedia article quoted above goes on to observe, "The word womyn appeared as an Older Scots spelling of woman in the Scots poetry of James Hogg," so anyone unwise or unlucky enough to get into an argument with a MAGA type could point out that it dates back to the turn of the eighteenth/nineteenth centuries.

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