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mike_c

(36,520 posts)
11. I fear that democrats have permanently alienated a large constituency.
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 07:10 PM
Feb 17

Whether rightly or wrongly, working class people in their twenties and thirties feel helpless and hopeless about their prospects, particularly economic progress and social mobility. I especially recall a conversation I overheard among a group of young men in Arizona last spring. They were agonizing about voting for Trump, but all agreed that dems had disappointed them to the point of being non-starters (Biden was still the dem candidate at the time). They were particularly angry about stagnant wages, and none of them being able to afford living alone or with a partner despite working full time+. My first thought was like "kids these days cannot manage their expectations," but honestly-- I moved out of my parent's house in my mid-teens, and lived alone or provided a home for my family by my early twenties. I was a high school dropout with a silver tongue but not much actual work experience. It was tough, but I wonder if I could do it at all today?

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Ken - you need to start over with a new message. dchill Feb 17 #1
I'm reluctant to consider a NYT LuvLoogie Feb 17 #3
But do you deny the need for a new message? dchill Feb 17 #4
The only message the the MSM will let through LuvLoogie Feb 17 #9
Yep, the message to women to lie to their husbands worked great. quaint Feb 18 #15
Yeah I suppose that didn't have as much an effect on on "suburban moms" LuvLoogie Feb 18 #17
It resonated with the suburban Latinas around me. quaint Feb 18 #19
about 66% of Hispanic women and 56% of Hispanic men voted for Kamala LuvLoogie Feb 18 #21
Getting a good message out through the msm is nearly impossible unblock Feb 18 #16
There are tricks in getting a given creator on TikTok out to more people LuvLoogie Feb 18 #18
Very helpful tips! unblock Feb 18 #20
It definitely does. LuvLoogie Feb 18 #22
Republicans are a disciplined phalanx. Gum Logger Mar 2 #32
NYT again.... Lovie777 Feb 17 #2
To be fair the piece isn't really advocating any particular course of action Shrek Feb 17 #5
The headline writers are never our friends Lulu KC Feb 18 #14
it's smearing the party name and implies we don't have a course of action (nt) cadoman Feb 25 #29
To connect with workers, empower them financially. bucolic_frolic Feb 17 #6
Forced to save with what money Pull_Left Feb 25 #28
I don't really see many problems with the party, keeping unauthorized people (Musk) away from vote counting machines SheilaAnn Feb 17 #7
The remodeling is near complete C_U_L8R Feb 17 #8
Since the msm is doing the job inadequatelya major effort to inform people living inside the right wing information silo CentralMass Feb 17 #10
I fear that democrats have permanently alienated a large constituency. mike_c Feb 17 #11
I went back and looked at my old wages in today's dollars somsai Feb 17 #12
My Suggestions. Please read. usonian Feb 18 #13
Excellent article... Martin is wrong. WarGamer Feb 24 #23
We had a real chance to harness the anger and turn it into energy for bold and exciting initiatives. Nanjeanne Feb 24 #24
imho the only thing Dems dont do as well as repugs is lie, cheat and steal.. samnsara Feb 25 #25
Surely not popular observation bucolic_frolic Feb 25 #26
The NYT's is still a thing? SalamanderSleeps Feb 25 #27
Careerists and their consultants are doing fine. Passages Feb 27 #30
It does seem as if the careerists and consultants have a stranglehold on the party. yardwork Feb 28 #31
Own a radio network. Gum Logger Mar 2 #33
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