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Maddow: Trump loses on public health leadership as states leave his 'flock of quacks' behind - Rachel Maddow - MS NOW [View all]
As Donald Trump fills the leadership roles of the U.S. public health system with quacks and kooks, sane states are taking it upon themselves to employ actual experts with real public health administration experience to make sure the public has credible guidance even if that guidance is not coming from the federal government.
Dr. Debra Houry, former CDC official and new senior medical adviser to the California Department of Health, talks with Rachel Maddow about this new shift in public health authority as Donald Trump and his clown show are simply ignored. - Aired on 12/15/2025.
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