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Populist Reform of the Democratic Party
Showing Original Post only (View all)"Conspiracy theory" is a way overused term. [View all]
Calling something--anything--a "conspiracy theory" has become a one-second method of discrediting that thing. If you believe everything is exactly as government and politicians and their surrogates describe it, I think you are either lying or far too naive to be taken seriously.
No matter how cynical you become, it's never enough to keep up.Lily Tomli
Can distrust be taken to a ridiciulous extreme? Yes. Duh. Almost anything can be taken to a ridiculous extreme (good gelato being one of very few exceptions). When it gets to the point at which people find it necessary to prove they exist, cynicism and doubt just may have gone too far. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cogito_ergo_sum
This post does not attempt to draw a line between healthy cynicism and paralyzing doubt, but to attempt a definition of a conspiracy because I have recently been seeing the term misused here over and over.
First, let's get this straight: a conspiracy requires more than one person or entity. If I believe that a single corporation has covered up or denied some danger created by its products, I may have a theory. That theory may be correct or off the wall. Either way, it simply cannot be a conspiracy theory. I simply suspect a single corporation of wrongdoing.
It's also not a "conspiracy theory" if the theory does not include conspiring. Sometimes, several people or companies simply decide to do something quite independently of each other.
We don't usually accuse people of conspiring to do good deeds, but people absolutely do conspire to do good deeds all the time. Is the last part of that sentence a conspiracy theory on my part? No, it's fact, not theory.
After that, the definition of a conspiracy gets murky (for me, anyway).
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conspiracy
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con·spir·a·cy (kən-spîr′ə-sē )
n. pl. con·spir·a·cies
1. An agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act.
2. A group of conspirators.
3. Law An agreement between two or more persons to commit a crime or accomplish a legal purpose through illegal action.
4. A joining or acting together, as if by sinister design: a conspiracy of wind and tide that devastated coastal areas
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/conspiracy
The third definition is clear enough, but the first is not. Our society seeks to outlaw most things that are significantly wrongful and/or subversive. So, why isn't "illegal" enough?
So many things can be deemed "wrongful." For example, if I happen to know something signifcant, negative or positive, about a politician and I decide to keep that information to myself, I have a hard time believing a criminal case would exist against me, even if the information is likely to swing an election. Does it become more "wrongful" because two people know the information and agree with each other to keep silent? And, if I suspect those two people of having information they agreed not to disclose, is that a conspiracy theory? If so, why?
How about insignificant things, like conspiring to throw someone a surprise party? How about if the conspirators know the guest of honor hates surprise parties?
I don't know the answers to all the questions, but I do know that conspiracies do exist. Maybe not as many as some people think, but they exist. And maybe we should not be so quick to dismiss the idea that conspiracies exist or, for that matter, to whip out Occam's Razor. But, let's save the term conspiracy for something more significant and malevolent than, say, a surprise party.
Oh, and labeling something a "conspiracy theory" does not disprove it, even if you are using the term correctly.
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The assassination of JFK was the only time the term was used most of my life, it is a symbol of the
orpupilofnature57
Sep 2015
#1
The only time? I've seen it used on DU alone in all kinds of contexts other than the assassination.
merrily
Sep 2015
#2
Oh I agree, and what gets lost is identifying the implements of Usurping by author ty in Bail-outs,
orpupilofnature57
Sep 2015
#13
There are a lot of mysterous "coincidences" in politics and the more people try to
rhett o rick
Oct 2015
#25
I understand your position. For me, fresher stuff would be the priority for actual investigation.
merrily
Oct 2015
#37
In my opinion there is a conspiracy by the 1% to neutralize our Constitutional powers. It's not
rhett o rick
Oct 2015
#42
That may be true but I am going a different direction. IMO the main point when people refer to
rhett o rick
Oct 2015
#44
Yup. 'conspiracy' can be as simple as a news organization sitting on a story that will affect the
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Sep 2015
#4
Speaking of "many news organizations" and conspiring is a good place for the following opinion.
rhett o rick
Oct 2015
#27
Thanks for the great post. Conservative authoritarianism abhors Conspiracy Theories
rhett o rick
Oct 2015
#24
What a great OP. This is exactly what I think this Group is for. This is an important subject
rhett o rick
Oct 2015
#23
It certainly is an interesting topic. There are tons of conspiracy theories on 9/11 for example.
still_one
Oct 2015
#26
Good luck finding irrefutable evidence of something your government is trying to keep secret,
merrily
Oct 2015
#31
I have a more optimistic assessment. If more than one person is aware of something, the truth will
still_one
Oct 2015
#34
I don't agree. However, until it does come out, the idea that it happened is not a whacko
merrily
Oct 2015
#35
Kindly point out which woo woo being pushed by Jones or Beck I attempted to mainstream.
merrily
Oct 2015
#32
Kindly re-read my post, as I said no such thing. I just have a different opinion than you
emulatorloo
Oct 2015
#36
Re read your own suggestion that I am attempting to mainstream woo woo ala Jones and Beck.
merrily
Oct 2015
#38
Asking you to reread your own post after you told me to reread your post is fighting? Interesting.
merrily
Oct 2015
#40
No the labeling does not disprove it. But IMHO burden of proof is on the the one proposing it
emulatorloo
Oct 2015
#45