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cachukis

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8. No body ever hit Wayne Gretzky because he was the paycheck.

Mon Jul 10, 2023, 07:38 PM

Jul 2023

Stats are compilations and have value. Teams are what these guys play on. Individual stats are meaningless because you don't play a team game alone. The fifties and sixties Celtics are the epitome of teams. Russell played his role and carried the team to glory. Auerbach transformed professional sports. Moneyball replaced it.
Olajuwon, Pippen and the like were carriers; team mates.
Second fiddles are the most important. Auerbach had a team of them.

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My take on the GOAT debate [View all] EnergizedLib Jul 2023 OP

This is ridiculous. we can do it Jul 2023 #1

Specifically what is, if I may ask? EnergizedLib Jul 2023 #2

William Felton Russell. Stats are only stats. cachukis Jul 2023 #3

Stats do matter, no? EnergizedLib Jul 2023 #4

No body ever hit Wayne Gretzky because he was the paycheck. cachukis Jul 2023 #8

Gretzky also wasn't a fighter and the face of his league EnergizedLib Jul 2023 #10

Late to the GOAT debate, but... maspaha Aug 2023 #23

And then look at Bill Russell bottomofthehill Jul 2023 #5

That's a lot of winning EnergizedLib Jul 2023 #7

I played hockey with guys who left the Canadiens because of cachukis Jul 2023 #9

Casey also managed a 40-120 Mets team in their first year EnergizedLib Jul 2023 #11

I am not denying them their greatness. But rules change. cachukis Jul 2023 #14

And this tells me EnergizedLib Jul 2023 #17

Well stated. The greatest is subjective. Individually versus team. cachukis Jul 2023 #20

Red's take TZ617 Jul 2023 #12

First of all EnergizedLib Jul 2023 #13

My generation!! TZ617 Jul 2023 #16

That really says a lot EnergizedLib Jul 2023 #18

My father was a referee in the Greater Boston League in the cachukis Jul 2023 #15

There's the nostalgia again EnergizedLib Jul 2023 #19

Bob Cousy maspaha Aug 2023 #24

Luckily, yes. On the parquet and in a park in Worcester, just down cachukis Aug 2023 #25

My Objection ProfessorGAC Jul 2023 #22

This message was self-deleted by its author EnergizedLib Jul 2023 #6

My vote goes to Secretariat..... Karadeniz Jul 2023 #21

Bill Russel, 11 titles in 13 seasons bluescribbler Sep 2023 #26

Naismith is very inclusive EnergizedLib Sep 2023 #27