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sir pball

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25. Restrictions based on the actual cartridge the "handgun" fires would be better IMO..
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 09:36 AM
Mar 2015

Muzzle energy wouldn't be ideal, without going into unnecessary "technical detail" (everything in moderation), these AR "pistols" only deliver about half the energy of a .44 Magnum, but the former will penetrate soft body armor, while the latter is the specified standard to be stopped.

There's many other factors at play besides ME in terms of a round defeating soft armor; I'd advocate for simply lumping any repeating-action firearm that uses a cartridge designed for a rifle, with a barrel less than 16", to be classed as an SBR regardless of presence/absence of a stock. It seems to me it would rather tidily wrap up this whole mess without getting into murky gray areas (ME isn't a fixed number, after all).

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I have to be contrary on this one KellyW Mar 2015 #1
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Why don't we ban the manufacture of pistols that fire rifle cartridges? indie9197 Mar 2015 #3
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Profits on M855 green tip ammo is up 40% KellyW Mar 2015 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author billh58 Mar 2015 #7
handguns shooting AR15 bullets, problems therein jimmy the one Mar 2015 #8
The *entire* problem is repeating handguns shooting rifle ammo, period. They should be NFA'ed. sir pball Mar 2015 #10
This ammunition is totally useless. flamin lib Mar 2015 #6
politifact fact checked it jimmy the one Mar 2015 #9
The ATF is suspending the proposal Amishman Mar 2015 #11
suspended, fear of rabies jimmy the one Mar 2015 #20
Just as a matter of fact, banning this bullet would do nothing... Adrahil Mar 2015 #12
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There is no need to be rude. Adrahil Mar 2015 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author billh58 Mar 2015 #15
Then you will continue to fail. Adrahil Mar 2015 #16
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Insult, Insult, Insult. What a pleasant person you are. Adrahil Mar 2015 #18
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If you are going to define all gun owners as the enemy.... Adrahil Mar 2015 #21
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Yes it is frustrating that some don’t want to have any discussion of tactics KellyW Mar 2015 #23
Bill, could you please put Adrahil on your ignore list? They haven't done anything worth blocking Electric Monk Mar 2015 #24
Restrictions based on the actual cartridge the "handgun" fires would be better IMO.. sir pball Mar 2015 #25
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