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Gun Control Reform Activism

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defacto7

(13,680 posts)
Wed May 21, 2014, 05:58 PM May 2014

Who has the best hand? [View all]

I cross posted this in both GCRA and A&A because it's kind of double edged.

My position on guns in America is now pretty well set.

A few days ago, a friend I had not seen in years gave me a call and asked if he could drop by. He's an evangelical fundamentalist and with me being his complete opposite it posed an opportunity for lively discussion for sure, so we decided to get in his truck and go out to eat. We discussed several things one of which was his faith in God to protect him from harm which took us to Internet issues such as privacy, NSA and even passwords. He said, "I don't care about passwords because God will take care of my stuff as he sees fit. I don't worry about it because I have faith he will keep my accounts safe." He proceeded to share with me his one password for /everything/ which was a 6 character lower case word and utterly useless. Then we got into 2nd amendment issues where he gave me the usual RW blather about Obama and the LW trying to take his guns away at which point he showed me a gun that he carries in his truck. He held it up and said, "This is the hand of God." Then I asked, "what kind of a metaphor is that?" His reply, "it's no metaphor." I said, "but don't you trust God to protect you and your life just as much as your Internet access? Why would you need a gun when you have faith in God?" Then he replied with a kind of reverence, "If God calls me to use it, I will use it." End of conversation.

Beside the fact that his argument is hypocritical this person is no backwoods slouch. In fact he's quite intelligent and well educated though he picks and chooses his facts according to the "will" of God and the bible.

If he represents 10 other people in the US, we have a problem. I'm sure he represents thousands. If people carry guns on their person or in their vehicles, and states have no strict laws that bar such carrying practices, and law enforcement has no will to enforce such a law, such irrational numb ethics that becomes the will of God in the minds of thousands of believers of a thousand definitions of god will be the hand of a thousand different gods. Those gods exist the minds of fearful, angry and irrational hypocrites who can't even keep their faith in the God they believe in.

I have just joined the ranks of those who want to see his "hand of God" taken away after all. That's a blanket statement but I see no reason for fallible humans with the propensity for false judgment to be the carriers of death walking and driving in the presence of us all.

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