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jimmy the one

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3. trump is a national disgrace
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 11:23 AM
Dec 2016

guillaume: Recommended in any forum.

Well I'm a bit abashed at my forced revision due a bit of carelessness on my part. Reread OP.

the 3/5ths compromise allowed for greater representation in the House and the 2 Senators per state allowed for greater influence in the Senate. And given how the Electoral College is constituted, this guaranteed that the slave states would have more influence.

I think you have it right, but to check, let me run it past you. The 3/5 'slave per white southerner' was insisted upon by northerners, so as to blunt the greater influence southern states would get in the house of representatives if a slave was counted as a full white man. Since pro slavery representatives would be elected based on full population, but they would have little cause to truly represent anything slaves wanted.

Say there were 500,000 slaves in georgia (dunno factuals at the moment), and 1,000,000 whites, full representation would be 1.5 million people in georgia. At one representatives per 250,000, georgia would get 6 reps with full representation, almost all of which would be pro slavery reps, since slaves could not vote they were in effect disenfranchised while still being used in the population totals.
Then the Mo. compromise occurred where a slave was 3/5 a white man. In our above example, only 300,000 slaves were counted (3/5 x 500,000 slaves), for a grand total of 1,300,000 yielding 5 representatives rather than 6.
This was done to blunt the pro slavery representatives sent to the house of reps. Obviously 5 is less than 6, so white abolitionists in congress could have a greater say, or at least not be overwhelmed by pro slavery southerners.
So while the 3/5 slave per white man is too often deemed an insult to black people in the early 1800's, it in fact was beneficial to slaves in their fight for equaler rights, and pushed thru in good part by abolitionists, and opposed by slave owning southerners.

Oh, btw, guillaume, my plans are to stay up in canada near montreal for 2, 3, or 4 months next summer, & look into cabin type homes about ottawa or montreal.
Don't want to listen to an obnoxious anal retentive bombastic windbag president for next 4 maybe 8 years. He is a national disgrace. Makes me sick to watch news anymore, what with saturation coverage of this narcissistic con artist, so I'm cancelling cable tv after american football season over. Almost all the good things democrats have accomplished or started will be either dismantled or walked back, to the country's detriment.
By the end of Bighead's term in 2020, a possibility the supreme court could be 7 right wing justices to 2 liberals, with at least 5-4 right wing, so any substantive federal gun control efforts are doomed from the start, only states will be able to go with it. National concealed reciprocity is the next real threat, I only hope there are enough dem senators to block it with a filibuster.




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