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BainsBane

(55,523 posts)
38. I did not call you a misogynist
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 02:19 PM
Feb 2015

How absurd. What I said is that you miss the point. Her comment was about women's rights, something that you feel perfectly entitled to tell others they have no right to speak about. This is what she said, verbatim:

“To every woman who gave birth, to every taxpayer and citizen of this nation, we have fought for everybody else’s equal rights,” shouted a fiery Arquette. “It’s our time to have wage equality once and for all and equal rights for women in the United States of America!”


Nothing about the gap between rich and poor but rather the GENDER GAP in pay. The point about income inequality is important, but it is not what she spoke to. You most certainly denied her right to speak. You said that since she is wealthy she isn't fit to address the issue. Of course it isn't new or path breaking. It's very basic, yet people, yourself included, are still losing their shit about it. That was the point of this OP.


I am sick to death of men telling us what we are allowed to talk about. If we discuss cultural matters, we are told we should focus on important issues like legislation. When we discuss equal pay, we are told we shouldn't "count on government." No one is counting on shit. We are discussing an issue. That the issue doesn't address your concerns and goals clearly bothers you. We aren't counting on government, Hollywood, or men to enact changes for us, and we do not seek your permission.

Moreover, this false allegation that I called you a misogynist is uncalled for. I addressed what you wrote and pointed out you continually misrepresented her speech to make it about your issue rather than what she actually said. I am responsible for my words, but not how you feel. That is your issue. It's great you care about grass roots activism, but that doesn't give you a right to make every discussion about what you want. Other people have a right to raise ideas and concerns as well.

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Exactly ismnotwasm Feb 2015 #1
not sure I want to know. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2015 #3
really? and the same ole telling us the reason why the male gets so much more money? seabeyond Feb 2015 #5
Seems like we are ALWAYS starting at Ground Zero. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2015 #2
people are flipping out? because women want same pay as their counter male playing a role? seabeyond Feb 2015 #4
^^^ this^^^ BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2015 #35
The people freaking out are fake news, i.e., so called Christians aka GOP party and their Iliyah Feb 2015 #6
People are losing their shit over this? sheshe2 Feb 2015 #7
When Patricia said that, I knew the gop squawking heads would be popping like geysers. Dont call me Shirley Feb 2015 #8
They hate Women so what they think is irrelevant. randys1 Feb 2015 #27
Like another McCarthyist celebrity round-up, that could be coming again. Dont call me Shirley Feb 2015 #32
You know... malthaussen Feb 2015 #9
Yeah, what a radical notion. riqster Feb 2015 #10
Thanks to Patricia Arquette. We are women. We matter, and it's our turn. JDPriestly Feb 2015 #11
don't get me wrong angrychair Feb 2015 #12
The thing about Hollywood celebs BainsBane Feb 2015 #13
Don't shoot the messenger, listen to the message. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #14
all due respect angrychair Feb 2015 #15
There is a huge difference BainsBane Feb 2015 #16
Not to mention, Arquette didn't claim the the "room full of millionaires" Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2015 #18
we have a failure to communicate angrychair Feb 2015 #21
Again, the issue was not income equality BainsBane Feb 2015 #31
again, really? angrychair Feb 2015 #36
I did not call you a misogynist BainsBane Feb 2015 #38
That would be mercuryblues Feb 2015 #28
her opinion isn't at issue angrychair Feb 2015 #29
So anything said by a wealthy person can be dismissed? That makes no sense. Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2015 #17
not what I said angrychair Feb 2015 #25
By that reasoning, white people should not have spoken out or participated in the Civil Rights Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2015 #30
she didn't ask you to feel sorry for her. She was initiating a discussion on pay equity magical thyme Feb 2015 #33
millionaires dont run shit. mopinko Feb 2015 #22
Bitterness isn't going to change anything. Speaking out does. n/t cui bono Feb 2015 #24
one of the differences would be that the hollywood room full of millionaires actually DID something, niyad Feb 2015 #34
she was speaking to the millions watching as well... Phentex Feb 2015 #19
the sony hack mopinko Feb 2015 #20
So what is the appropriate salary amount where it would be okay to demand equality? cui bono Feb 2015 #23
talking about it is great angrychair Feb 2015 #26
How precisely, is her dialog regarding equal pay insensitive at best? LanternWaste Feb 2015 #37
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